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Old 11-01-18, 10:47 AM
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Raleigh Super Course??

So I might have one of these available to me. I currently ride a Serotta Colorado 2. How would these compare to each other?
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Old 11-01-18, 12:27 PM
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What year Super Cross we talkin about?
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That I am not sure of. I will be able to see it on Saturday. How shall I determine age?
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The Raleigh Super Course Series

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If the frame is this color, it’s a 77, 78, or 79 Serial No. under bottom bracket
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The Super Course came from the Carlton facility as the entry level of a "family" of domestic British designs for club riders of the era who would fit a saddle bag and mudguards one weekend for a fast paced club ride/tour and remove both to compete in club time trials or hill-climbs the next. The design premium was on light pleasant riding machines capable of handling a self-supported load at pace for long distances on rough secondary roads in all weathers.

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I can't campare it to a Serotta - never ridden one, but I love my Super Course. I built it up from a found bare frame using mostly Sugino and Suntour components along with more or less correct handlebars and brakes. It's a great ride, stiff enough with responsive handling, but comfortable on less than ideal roads. Very comfortable fit for me, almost like it was custom made, considering it was a found frame built by a rookie mechanic (me) from a rag tag bunch of swap meet and Ebay parts. I have several modern carbon and a couple of other vintage steel, but the Raleigh is one of my favorites.


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Old 11-02-18, 09:35 AM
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Early Super Course models had the ornate, Nervex lugs like those on this 1969. Exception was 1 year, (1973 I think) when they had Capella lugs like those on Slightspeed's example. Later models had the plain lugs shown by tcamd73. Don
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In addition to the aforementioned Nervex Professional lugs used pretty steadily through 1972 and the Carlton Capella lugs used in '73, Raleigh also build Super Courses with Bocama model 14 type II - I've seen examples on this forum from c.1971 in coffee brown and bronze green, mostly 25.5-in, but at least one 23.5 bronze green. Also, there's this 21-in c.1973-74 with Bocama 14/IIs in coffee. Super Course Mk. II apparently had Prugnat 62 lugs before moving over to the plainer Bocamas used on the gold '78 pictured above.
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I picked my Super Course out of the trash. It was complete except it had no rear wheel. It had been rebuilt by a neighbor (which I learned later) and given to another neighbor. The latter neighbor had thrown it out. When I built it up for my use, I transferred most of the components from my Peugeot UO-8 commuter bike. I expected that it would ride similarly. I was wrong. It rides much better than a UO-8.

The frame's paint is in horrible condition. It's an eyesore. This has made me feel OK about using it as a testbed bike. I've rebuilt it several times, and I'm in the middle of doing it again. I've used it as a weekend ride bike, a commuter, a hauler, and a gravel grinder, and I've even taken it on a two-day overnight tour with luggage.





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I picked my Super Course out of the trash. It was complete except it had no rear wheel. It had been rebuilt by a neighbor (which I learned later) and given to another neighbor. The latter neighbor had thrown it out. When I built it up for my use, I transferred most of the components from my Peugeot UO-8 commuter bike. I expected that it would ride similarly. I was wrong. It rides much better than a UO-8.

The frame's paint is in horrible condition. It's an eyesore. This has made me feel OK about using it as a testbed bike. I've rebuilt it several times, and I'm in the middle of doing it again. I've used it as a weekend ride bike, a commuter, a hauler, and a gravel grinder, and I've even taken it on a two-day overnight tour with luggage.





one of those in a 58ish size would be awesome.
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My gut reaction is the Super Course would be noticeably heavier than the Serotta. A quick google shows the the Colorado (in various forms) to be a high end road bike, modern butted tubing made to Serotta's spec by Columbus.

The SuperCourse is likely straight gauge 531 main tubes with hi-ten fork and stays (although that may have changed with the later models? The SuperCourse name certainly had a long run.) A little heavier doesn't mean 'bad' of course, but depending on how it's built, I would expect the SC to be a little more plush and the Serotta to be more lively. I've built up my SC a couple different ways; currently it's a very plush fixie:

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