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Old 11-03-18, 03:31 PM
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The "Identify This Component" Thread

How about a thread devoted to identifying mysterious vintage bike components?

Posters: Post photo(s), describe markings on part, and add any other useful information (bike found on, source, etc.)

Answerers: If possible provide manufacturer, model, usage and any other relevant or fun information.

So whaddya say, Sherlock?

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I’ll start. This bottom bracket (pic 2) has "3N-B" marked on the (120mm, hollow, JIS I think) spindle; the cartridge bearings say "OPC" and "Japan"; both the cups and lockrings are alloy.

Was this a nice bb or common as dirt? You got me!
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I bought this part from eBay.it a couple years ago because it's stamped "Cinelli." I didn't know what it is. Neither did the seller. Something brake-ish I suppose. A few more images on Flickr

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Originally Posted by jethin View Post
I’ll start. This bottom bracket (pic 2) has "3N-B" marked on the (120mm, hollow, JIS I think) spindle; the cartridge bearings say "OPC" and "Japan"; both the cups and lockrings are alloy.

Was this a nice bb or common as dirt? You got me!
Looks alot (copy?) like the Suntour adjustable chainline BB.
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That's quite odd, Skip. Did anyone over on the CR list know what it was?

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I bought this part from eBay.it a couple years ago because it's stamped "Cinelli." I didn't know what it is. Neither did the seller. Something brake-ish I suppose. A few more images on Flickr



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What does it look like if you 'open' it up fully: the long arms out the the short arms together. It reminds me of the 'third hand' tools that help tension a brake cable or derailleur cable while you make final adjustments and tighten the cable clamp. I wonder if you place one of the long arm clamping ends against the brake arm, loosely feed the brake cable thru the tool's clamp at that end then thru the tool's clamp on the other arm, and tighten that clamp. Squeeze the short arms together to tension the cable just right then tighten the brake arm cable clamp. Remove the tool.

BTW: I don't do this nor use such tools. I press the brake pads against the rim and tighten the brake cable clamp a bit. I then grip the cable a couple mm below the clamp with needle nose pliers. Loosen the clamp to allow that wee bit of slack to slip through and retighten. Test to see if I then have the pad clearance I like. Do it again if needed until I'm happy and F and R are the same. Fine tune with the adjusters.

And those notches in the short arms seems to be ready to hold an elastic or rubber band to help apply tension to the brake cable. No hand needed on the tool then - both hands on the caliper and the wrench.
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What is that

WHAT IS THAT!



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These were on an old Motobecane I bought a few years ago. Kinda wacky idea I thought. Any idea who made them?
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Originally Posted by Prowler View Post
What does it look like if you 'open' it up fully: the long arms out the the short arms together. It reminds me of the 'third hand' tools that help tension a brake cable or derailleur cable while you make final adjustments and tighten the cable clamp. I wonder if you place one of the long arm clamping ends against the brake arm, loosely feed the brake cable thru the tool's clamp at that end then thru the tool's clamp on the other arm, and tighten that clamp. Squeeze the short arms together to tension the cable just right then tighten the brake arm cable clamp. Remove the tool.
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And those notches in the short arms seems to be ready to hold an elastic or rubber band to help apply tension to the brake cable. No hand needed on the tool then - both hands on the caliper and the wrench.
@rootboy I think I asked over on CR when I first got it, maybe here as well. I don't think anybody had a definitive idea what it was.

@Prowler Here's a "wide open" picture. I agree the notches look like they're supposed to hold some sort of spring or elastic. I'm skeptical of the third-hand idea. It's made of aluminum, the center pivot is just riveted in place, and it only weighs 17g. That doesn't strike me as something robust enough to hold up to repeated usage, even in a home shop.

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Originally Posted by big chainring View Post


These were on an old Motobecane I bought a few years ago. Kinda wacky idea I thought. Any idea who made them?
Not that wacky, just another version of a centerpull caliper straddle cable quick release cam mechanism.
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Originally Posted by big chainring View Post
These were on an old Motobecane I bought a few years ago. Kinda wacky idea I thought. Any idea who made them?
The color of that washer screams, "Weinmann!" or "Schwinn Approved!" to me. Quick release straddle cable thingie.
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Originally Posted by smontanaro View Post
@rootboy I think I asked over on CR when I first got it, maybe here as well. I don't think anybody had a definitive idea what it was.

@Prowler Here's a "wide open" picture. I agree the notches look like they're supposed to hold some sort of spring or elastic. I'm skeptical of the third-hand idea. It's made of aluminum, the center pivot is just riveted in place, and it only weighs 17g. That doesn't strike me as something robust enough to hold up to repeated usage, even in a home shop.

Well, it most likely had something to do with something that Cinelli made, so think saddles, stems, toeclips, handlebars, bar tape, framesets......hmmm...what else??... But they never made brakesets......
So far nothing seems to fall in place with that tool.....
Maybe something that had to do with their ATB line??
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Probably an easy one, freewheel tool for what? Bicycle Research, larger than splines on anything I have.
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Yeah, it's pretty close, but the cups are different. Maybe they were replaced. I guess 120 mm might've been for a triple.

Originally Posted by nesteel View Post
Looks alot (copy?) like the Suntour adjustable chainline BB.
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Edit: could this be for opening stem clamps wider for easier install/removal of handlebars?

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@rootboy I think I asked over on CR when I first got it, maybe here as well. I don't think anybody had a definitive idea what it was.

@Prowler Here's a "wide open" picture. I agree the notches look like they're supposed to hold some sort of spring or elastic. I'm skeptical of the third-hand idea. It's made of aluminum, the center pivot is just riveted in place, and it only weighs 17g. That doesn't strike me as something robust enough to hold up to repeated usage, even in a home shop.


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No, I don't have a guess but let's think outside the box. If Campy can make a corkscrew and Lamborghini wheels maybe Cinelli made tools for uses other than bikes.
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The Bicycle Research freewheel remover in curbtender's post #14 is for Maillard/Normandy freewheels - bike boom era - with an unusually large diameter. The attached photograph, showing a non-Bicycle Research tool, is borrowed from eBay.
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The Bicycle Research freewheel remover in curbtender's post #14 is for Maillard/Normandy freewheels - bike boom era - with an unusually large diameter. The attached photograph, showing a non-Bicycle Research tool, is borrowed from eBay.
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The Cinelli tool in smontanaro's posts #3 and #10 , in light of chombi1's comment...


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Could the tool be used to spread saddle rails?

Perhaps the button head machine screws and washers on the Cinelli marked side of the tool would secure a cable or a bicycle spoke, to keep the tool open when mounting a saddle on a seat post so that the rails are sufficiently spread to fit easily on the post.

When it is necessary to spread saddle rails, for example to mount an older saddle on an SR Laprade style seatpost, keeping the rails spread while positioning the saddle on the carriage can be a challenge.

Perhaps this is the tool for the job?
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Of course, the Cinelli nose hair clipper.

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No, I don't have a guess but let's think outside the box. If Campy can make a corkscrew and Lamborghini wheels maybe Cinelli made tools for uses other than bikes.
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Originally Posted by cyclophilia View Post
The Cinelli tool in smontanaro's posts #3 and #10 , in light of chombi1's comment...


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Could the tool be used to spread saddle rails?

Perhaps the button head machine screws and washers on the Cinelli marked side of the tool would secure a cable or a bicycle spoke, to keep the tool open when mounting a saddle on a seat post so that the rails are sufficiently spread to fit easily on the post.

When it is necessary to spread saddle rails, for example to mount an older saddle on an SR Laprade style seatpost, keeping the rails spread while positioning the saddle on the carriage can be a challenge.

Perhaps this is the tool for the job?
I was initially thinking that it might have had something to do with saddle rails, but per my own experience of trying to spread our steel saddle rails on a Brooks by just a little bit, there is no way that tool can exert enough leverage/force to do such....
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What about something to keep straddle cables from snagging on knobby tires if the brake cable breaks? Though I'm at a loss to think how that might be configured.

I just had a small brainstorm (or brain fart, not quite sure which). I sent a note to the seller of this strange, unique CInelli product:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/113130982198
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Maybe there are some sort of arms or handles that are supposed to go on that Cinelli tool. That may explainy thosey groovely-lookin' thing-o's. You could then put a fair bit more spreading pressure on it.
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