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Old 11-18-18, 01:40 AM
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Spray.bike paint

Having discovered a few weeks ago that my mystery Gitane is in fact a 1980 PY10 with not original paint, I thought I'd try the spray.bike products and do something funky with it. My plan was a white with either a 'sunlight' clearcoat or glitter. Red whit and blue was the plan, but what pattern, I didn't know. First thing was to get it bead blasted. This was done but someone who usually deals with cars, so the medium he used was a bit abrasive for my liking but it came out well.
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Old 11-18-18, 01:46 AM
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The paint arrived in good time from the Spanish distributor, Santa Fixie. On with the Primer after a bit of masking. Following the instructions I thought at the time it was easier to handle than a standard automotive primer, but that may be wishful thinking

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The Whitechpel base coat was next. It's quite odd stuff in that you spray from so close. Solvent based powdercoat is how they describe it. All sorts of errors were made, and almost all were fixed fairly easily, by the application of a soft cloth, or in some areas a bit of 600 grit paper.



And so on to the glitter!
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This was always supposed to be a quick and dirty job to see how the paints behaved and how easy they were. From 30cm away they gave some good glitteryness, but 3 light coats made a massive difference.








My red white and blue plan was working well, and the Keirin series with the glitter was giving a pretty good glossy finish over the very matt Whitechapel. The pooling at the bottom of the head tube (pic above) was my over-enthusiasm. The line bewteen the red and blue was easily buffed out as well.

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This is where the experiment ended. My mate in the bodyshop took one look at it, said it was awful and took it away to spray it properly, still with the red white and blue scheme. He was quite insistant, and who am I to argue with a pro? I didn't get to try out the top coat, but I think that it might go on to a recent acquisition that has original paint, to protect it from any more surface rust.

I wouldn't hesitate to use the spray.bike again. With a bit more care and a drier garage I think you can have a lot of fun on frames that don't have precious paint on them.

Edit, forgot to mention that I did the whole lot in one afternoon.

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I've been struggling to figure out how I'm going to get my bike painted and I'd just decided to try out Spray.Bike myself but now I'm second guessing my decision because of your friends reaction

Looks like I'll be calling some automotive shops and seeing if I can sucker one of them into doing it for me lmao
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Spray paint /can/ deliver professional results, but

1) you're going to spend hours on prep/cleanup, and

2) you need to buy expensive 2-part paints, which happen to be very toxic and require, not suggest, true filter masks.

To get an idea of how irritating, grab a can of etching primer/whatever color of regular paint (Duplicolor is a good choice in the USA), and try to get a good, optically consistent, gloss finish on a tube. You will be doing some sanding and application of rubbing compound, ending with a wax.

Two-part paint from a spray gun, on the other hand, is hard to screw up, and will have a glossy finish even if it pools in giant drips, with minimal post-paint work that needs to be done.
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Originally Posted by wschruba
Two-part paint from a spray gun, on the other hand, is hard to screw up, and will have a glossy finish even if it pools in giant drips, with minimal post-paint work that needs to be done.
What is this two part paint you are referring to? Do you mean an epoxy type paint. Also if using etching primer you must cover with paint almost immediately unless you have low humidity. When I painted cars I always prefered a hi-build primer with a hardener because humidity is a problem where I am.
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Originally Posted by Smokeage
I've been struggling to figure out how I'm going to get my bike painted and I'd just decided to try out Spray.Bike myself but now I'm second guessing my decision because of your friends reaction

Looks like I'll be calling some automotive shops and seeing if I can sucker one of them into doing it for me lmao
It's me that is the problem with the finish. I have the type of manual skill or lack thereof that can measure and levey a line on a wall 14 times, and when I put the screws in, it's off. Follow their instructions and you'll have a good if not great finish. I've done the workshop a few favours (like lending them my work van) and he was trying to pay the favour back!
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Originally Posted by MiloFrance
It's me that is the problem with the finish. I have the type of manual skill or lack thereof that can measure and levey a line on a wall 14 times, and when I put the screws in, it's off. Follow their instructions and you'll have a good if not great finish. I've done the workshop a few favours (like lending them my work van) and he was trying to pay the favour back!
Oh I'm right there with you haha. I think the Spray.Bike stuff looks great but it's ME that I don't trust
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Oh I'm right there with you haha. I think the Spray.Bike stuff looks great but it's ME that I don't trust
Take your time and follow the leaflet and I think you'll surprise yourself!
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Originally Posted by daviddavieboy
What is this two part paint you are referring to? Do you mean an epoxy type paint. Also if using etching primer you must cover with paint almost immediately unless you have low humidity. When I painted cars I always prefered a hi-build primer with a hardener because humidity is a problem where I am.
Eastwood is one brand... It's a polyester, so yes, epoxy. They tend to spray with less "orange peel", but I admit that is more dependent on the sprayer, than the product.
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I've done two Rustoleum "restorations". Prep work is the key. Fully stripped the frame, cleaned with alcohol, did Rustoleum self-etching primer, wet sanded with 600, three coats of color and two of clear. The paint has high gloss and holds up under normal use and has survived a few "bumps and bruises" with minimal damage. While there is a fair bit of time involved, the materials cost is maybe $40. The gray/white bike shown is a late-70s Ross CrMo made into a single-speed.




This is what it started as...

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Originally Posted by Smokeage
I've been struggling to figure out how I'm going to get my bike painted and I'd just decided to try out Spray.Bike myself but now I'm second guessing my decision because of your friends reaction

Looks like I'll be calling some automotive shops and seeing if I can sucker one of them into doing it for me lmao
if you do good prep, the spray.bike results are great.
I've done 2 bikes now. Took my time on prep, followed the directions, and it worked great.
no wear yet and its been almost a year, though my bike has been ridden maybe 400mi in that time. It isnt a heavily used bike.

just did a frame with a teenager last month- the difference in patience and attention to detail between an adult and teen is evident, but it looks great and just took more time and effort to get it to that point.

its fun and if it doesnt turn out well, it's a $20-50 cost in total.
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my issue with their marketing is that they imply it's "fast, durable, and cheap." you can only have two of those things. excluding prep-work (which is an entirely different project), the average person, no matter how diligent, will not be able to get a good clean coat. it might be fine for a sunday bike, but for a bike you ride everyday, or a city bike? i imagine it'll chip and flake, just like all the other non-epoxy aerosol paints.
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Originally Posted by wschruba
Eastwood is one brand... It's a polyester, so yes, epoxy. They tend to spray with less "orange peel", but I admit that is more dependent on the sprayer, than the product.
It sounds good. I left the business when urethanes were becoming popular here. I have mostly used 'real' lacquers mostly mostly acrylics and enamels. I never had too much issue with orange peel but because the paint room was also used for mechanical work dust and fish-eye was a problem at times. One thing I did use near the end but do not remember the name was a clear that could be sprayed at higher pressure. After a flash coat the subsequent coats could be sprayed almost immediately and THICK. It gave the paint depth and a good shine. With a polish it was like glass. This was over 20 years ago so I am sure the products are far advanced. I thought a clear like that would be great over decals but might build up too much around the lugs.
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my issue with their marketing is that they imply it's "fast, durable, and cheap." you can only have two of those things. excluding prep-work (which is an entirely different project), the average person, no matter how diligent, will not be able to get a good clean coat. it might be fine for a sunday bike, but for a bike you ride everyday, or a city bike? i imagine it'll chip and flake, just like all the other non-epoxy aerosol paints.
check out squid bikes. They sell the product domestically and use it for their frames.

I dont disagree with you that only 2 of the 3 are possible...that's a common comment for a lot of products.
but still, it's been as durable as wet paint so far, it's cheaper than wet paint, and it was faster than wet paint.
yes, the bike i sprayed isnt heavily used, but it's effectively all 3 things for what I need.

so it can manage to be all 3 things. Or perhaps in other instances its 2 of 3. Just depends on use/need.
it for sure doesnt look as nice as professional wet paint, but I am not a professional and didnt expect it to. It looks better than the original paint did, so its only an upgrade.
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Anyone know if the Spray.Bike clear coat would be a good choice for going over original paint and treated rust?
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Got this from my mate last night



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Now thatís a first rate mate!

I have a frame Iíd like to paint but Iím too intimidated by the process and possibility of bad results. So I guess itíll remain a rust bucket. Iím not sure whatís worse.
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It's amazing. More pics here.
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