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Old 11-19-18, 10:07 AM
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Calmus 70ís bike

Anyone have any info on these bikes?
looks to be good quality but unable to find any info on it
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Anyone have any info on these bikes?
looks to be good quality but unable to find any info on it
Welcome aboard,

10 posts = pics, we gotta have em to help.
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Old 11-19-18, 11:41 AM
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Have to start somewhere, cant just magic 10 posts
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@ Ajb68 there ya go.
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Made by Jean Calmus of MontluÁon, France. Google is your friend here.
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Mais oui. A google on 'bicyclette calmus' reveals a couple of nice examples.
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I have tried google but didnít come up with much, i believe calmus was a shop in montlucon and sold frames made by baco with their name on, im hoping someone can confirm this. I think my bike looks original but has no frame material decal on although it does have some nice drilled drop outs, rgf bb shell and semi wrap over stays so i guess its worth holding onto.

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As a rider, anything of decent condition, construction and materials is worth holding onto especially if it is interesting. But keep posting and then show us pictures. Hopefully it is something more distinctive!

BTW, I just tried Google, and I also did not find much. The best reference is the link to this BF discussion!
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My search does not find much. What is found is all absolute top quality and all quite interesting. Hold onto this frame.
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From what Google found me:

Jean Calmus started his shop in MontluÁon in 1975. Until 1983 his steel frames were bought from both Wolhauser (where Jean had been a long-time client) and Baco. All were branded "Calmus". From 1983 onward he built his own frames. Currently the shop is run by his son Alain. @cyclescalmus is his Twitter account.
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BTW, Alain seems to be a bit of a collector and enthusiast himself. Here he is ("cycleca"), identifying one of his dad's bikes. I'd try to approach him directly.
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Thanks very much for the link, thatís brilliant
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Calmus

So still no further forward, have tried to contact alain calmus but no reply as yet.
Would it be best to leave it as found or swap the components for a super record groupset that i had intended to build into a moser frame once i find one
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Since I have no clue as to what "as found" consists of, I do not have an opinion on that matter yet. Pictures of the bike would help.
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I still have to get a few more posts before i can add pics
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However i have come up with a plan
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Hopefully il be able to add pics soon
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Original components are zeus grandsport gears, shimano 600 cranks and universal brakes.
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Looking forward to seeing it!
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Thanks for the pics. That does indeed look like a Baco-built frame ...
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I take it baco are respected builders, how would i go about ageing it or finding out what tubing its made with?
What about swapping the groupset for campy or leaving it as is?
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Very much so. Batifoulier & Collas built 2,500 frames per year for the likes of Puch, Wolhauser and apparently Calmus.

I would put the build date of your frame in the early eighties, because of the top tube cable guides and the shifter cable routing under the BB shell. And if the above information on when Jean started building his own frames is correct, it won't be later than 1983.

The 600 EX could be original to the bike, and in that case the Shimano date codes on the parts could yield some more insight.
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Very much so. Batifoulier & Collas built 2,500 frames per year for the likes of Puch, Wolhauser and apparently Calmus.

I would put the build date of your frame in the early eighties, because of the top tube cable guides and the shifter cable routing under the BB shell. And if the above information on when Jean started building his own frames is correct, it won't be later than 1983.

The 600 EX could be original to the bike, and in that case the Shimano date codes on the parts could yield some more insight.
Iíd first of all dismantle the bike making notes on all the key dimensions and threadings. Overhaul all that moves and de-rust all rust. Based on the overall quality, Campy Record (nuovo or super ) is fine. I donít see much Shimano on there. The parts that are there seem quite respectable. Thereís nothing I would dismiss out of hand.
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2500 frames per year seems a lot to me, i thought it was a rare find. I was hoping to find out what tubing it was made, hopefully not conduit.
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