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Old 12-05-18, 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by jonwvara View Post
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I'm trying to avoid the word "rinko" here, but that's basically what I'm doing. It works really well for me. snip . . .
Thank you. Just don't tell our resident rinko meister @gugie . . .
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Old 12-05-18, 07:49 PM
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The Paul knock/rip offs from IRD always looked intriguing but I've never used them...
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I've ordered the Dia-Compe 980 canti's for the narrow studs on the front of my bike. I'll let you all know if they fit.
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Originally Posted by NA3S View Post
The Paul knock/rip offs from IRD always looked intriguing but I've never used them...
Wow, never saw those before, they look fantastic. I'll have to keep them in mind for future builds. User reviews warn that they're not appropriate for older cantilever spacing, though.

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Old 12-07-18, 04:44 PM
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Wow, never saw those before, they look fantastic. I'll have to keep them in mind for future builds. User reviews warn that they're not appropriate for older cantilever spacing, though.

Agreed, they are very sexy modern looking canti's. Shame so few modern manufacturers are making cantilevers in a narrower spacing. You would think there are plenty of older bikes around for which spare parts are getting rarer or who would prefer some of the advantages of modern design on an older bike?
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Old 01-10-19, 08:52 AM
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Finally received the Dia-Compe canti's. More pics and info if they fit tonight.
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If it is any consolation, removing the grandaddy of all cantilever brakes is a nightmare.
Granddaddy looks like a red-headed stepchild.

Can't think of a single bike of mine that needs stopping power desperately enough to consider this.
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Not sure if this helps anyone at all but i just ordered a set of these.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Silver-Bicy...cCUa7&LH_BIN=1
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Curious to hear if these new DC brakes work. I've seen a mention of some older XT units working on narrow spacing, but I've never had a set to test.Would love to have some more options for my Schwinn Passage.
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Old 01-11-19, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 4funbikes View Post
Curious to hear if these new DC brakes work. I've seen a mention of some older XT units working on narrow spacing, but I've never had a set to test.Would love to have some more options for my Schwinn Passage.
Most of the 80s brakes will work fine for 27" wheels- as far as going to 700c I've had luck with the DC981, Suntour XC Pro and the Shimano "Deore II" MT-62. The Shimano XT M732 brakes will work as well.

Since the XC Pro brakes work- that would mean the variants of that should work as well- the DC986 and 987 and the Ritchey cantilevers.
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Old 01-13-19, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 4funbikes View Post
Curious to hear if these new DC brakes work. I've seen a mention of some older XT units working on narrow spacing, but I've never had a set to test.Would love to have some more options for my Schwinn Passage.

I have a 1986 Passage as well that I like a lot.

I also ran into this issue of narrow spacing of the brake mount posts.

I tried Tektro 720 and TRP Eurox cantilever brakes
and could not get either to work
so I reinstalled the original Dia Compe's with new Koolstop pads.

I may try some of these other suggestions.

I am running 700c wheels on mine.

Thanks.
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I have a strong sense that they new 980’s will not work on a narrow fork. Pretty tough to find anything other than the old DC’s that will work properly on those posts, sadly.
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I can't believe I didn't post these yet...

I love the look of the big ol' triangle medium profile cantilevers.

Pix of the Shimano XT MC-70, M732 and the DX/DeoreII MT-62 cantilevers:


MC70M732MT62 by Dave The Golden Boy, on Flickr


MC70M732MT62FrontRow by Dave The Golden Boy, on Flickr


MC70M732MT62BackRow by Dave The Golden Boy, on Flickr



My next secret project is going to be using the M732s in the front with some XTR M900s in the rear (for a little more clearance for panniers- not really that it'll make a huge difference)


XT XTR1 by Dave The Golden Boy, on Flickr
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Also- The front post spacing on my 1984 Voyageur SP is 50mm (*!!!!*). It originally came with DiaCompe 981s. The Suntour XC Pros work fine there-


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Old 01-16-19, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 4funbikes View Post
Curious to hear if these new DC brakes work. I've seen a mention of some older XT units working on narrow spacing, but I've never had a set to test.Would love to have some more options for my Schwinn Passage.
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I have a strong sense that they new 980’s will not work on a narrow fork. Pretty tough to find anything other than the old DC’s that will work properly on those posts, sadly.
Well, I just installed these on 55mm center to center studs on a 22mm(?) Weinmann concave rim and they work... sort of.

Dia Compe supplied these with fairly thick pads compared to modern Tektro's which use a holder.


But they do work and stop the bike pretty well, once I replaced the stock pads with the narrower Tektro pads. My guess is that a pair of Koolstop thinlines will work best so I will be ordering the salmon colored ones shortly.



Better pictures when it is daylight again.
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I have read in the past the the thinlines are the way to go for these types of troubles. If the angle formed by the pad holder and the arm of the canti could be made just slightly smaller all of these modern canti's would fit a lot better.
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Dia Compe 999 and Campy CX look like they release on both sides. 999 still available, Campy CX out of production a few years ago, but you can still get them on ebay if you're patient.
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Originally Posted by jpaschall View Post
I have read in the past the the thinlines are the way to go for these types of troubles. If the angle formed by the pad holder and the arm of the canti could be made just slightly smaller all of these modern canti's would fit a lot better.
Yep, thinlines do the trick and look good doing so.









I'm aware the bike is a bit dirty.
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Yeah looks good. Glad you got it worked out.
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Just curious - was this frame originally built around 27" wheels, and converted to 700c? Looks like the Dia Compe's work well for the spacing (and look great).
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Originally Posted by Scottybigs View Post
Just curious - was this frame originally built around 27" wheels, and converted to 700c? Looks like the Dia Compe's work well for the spacing (and look great).
Hard to tell. This particular model has been around for quite some time and as far as I can tell only came with 700C rims. That has been the standard around here for a long time.
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Got these in 1980 ish

unused set of these SRP




these are on the bike ..

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