Norco Mountain Bikes (26'ers / Pre-1999)
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Did the late 80’s - early 90’s era of bikes have sized frames? Some of the local listings have listed bikes as small and large but the ones I have seen in person all measure 19” from crankset to the top of the seat post and feel a little cramped while riding.
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Of course they did. However, around 19"(CTT) would probably be the most common size. During the subject era, you could get adult Norco ATBs in sizes ranging from 16.5" to 23". The increments varied from model to model, as they were dependent on the contract manufacturer used to source the model. With a little searching, you should be able to find something in the 20" to 23" range.
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Judging frame size, is more than just comparing head tube lengths. There are potentail pitfalls to that method, especially with ATBs.
First, same sizes will have different head tube lengths depending on whether they have rigid or suspension forks. Designers shorten the head to compensate for the fork travel and the travel can vary, sometimes substantially, depending on the fork.
Second, once sloping top tubes became popular many manufacturers standardized on one size of head tube (the longest) and established frame size by varying the angle of the top tube. This allowed manufacturers to stock only one size of fork.
The third factor is wheel size. Most used ATBs that turn up, employ the old 26" wheel size. However, the 29ers have been around for over a decade and the 27.5" for slightly less. Both wheel sizes have triackled down to entry level models and are turning up in ever increasing numbers in used marketplaces. Of course, with larger wheel sizes, the designers compensate for a particular frame by shortening the head tube appropriately.
So, when using head tube length to judge frame size, you really have to enure that the two bicycles are compatible. For instance, if one bicycle has 26" wheels, a rigid fork and horizontal tube tube, you should only use head tube length as a sizing guideline in comparison to other bicycles using 26" wheels, rigid forks and horizontal tubes. It's fairly easy to compensate for different wheel sizes, but suspensions forks and sloping top tubes make it much more difficult to judge frame size. There are also other factors that can affect frame size, such as bottom bracket height and seat tube angle, but these have relatively minor effects in most cases.
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For those interested in old Norcos’s here are two of my current projects. A pair of (early 90’s?) Mountaineer SL’s. I think I have been spoiled by modern mountain bikes and have added 100mm to the handle bars on the purple one and experimenting with a 1x7 drivetrain on the white bike.





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Your blue Mountaineer SL looks a lot like my white Cherokee above. Seems like same era. I think mine's a '91/'92 from the serial #. I think yours, and mine, would make a good touring bikes, if the components/brakes/et al were upgraded.
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Damn!
I wasn't thinking about it until today and it is too late. Lifesport here in town is closing down and I called there asking if they still had all their old catalogues... but, no luck. He said he'd already dumpstered them a while back. Oh well. For those reading; if there is an established Canadian bike shop that is closing down in your area make sure to call them about catalogues. Who knows what Lifesport had after being around for 45 years. Perhaps it might be worthwhile to approach a still "staying in business" established shop and ask if you could scan some of their old Norco print stuff in and post it up here on BF. They might go for it.
I wasn't thinking about it until today and it is too late. Lifesport here in town is closing down and I called there asking if they still had all their old catalogues... but, no luck. He said he'd already dumpstered them a while back. Oh well. For those reading; if there is an established Canadian bike shop that is closing down in your area make sure to call them about catalogues. Who knows what Lifesport had after being around for 45 years. Perhaps it might be worthwhile to approach a still "staying in business" established shop and ask if you could scan some of their old Norco print stuff in and post it up here on BF. They might go for it.
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