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Peugeot Path Racer (PPR) - My French Racer Build

Old 11-26-18, 02:20 PM
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Peugeot Path Racer (PPR) - My French Racer Build

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So I've decided to build a path racer for the occasional family outing and city riding. I love the Pashley Guv'nor racer, but it's a little pricey for me. Next best option? Build my own, of course! But to make it truly my own, I'm going with a French frame - Peugeot to be precise.

Before any purists come in throwing rocks, please know that I understand that path racers are usually done on English frames - Raleigh, Rudge, Hercules, Pashley, etc. I went with a French theme because that was the bike that I found, a 1972 Peugeot U-O8. I do not feel bad about taking this bike apart and putting it back together my way - there are plenty of U-O8s to go around. This is by no means a collectible frame that needs to be restored period-correct. I would much rather build this bike up in a way that I will give it lots of use, instead of it sitting around unloved and unused.

With that said, my vision for a path racer is a vintage frame, with newer parts/components, all with a look similar to the Guv'nor. This is a budget build. I will use lots of parts that I have lying around, and I will add new parts if needed. I will list the parts/components that I add to this build, in case some of you want to try your hand at creating your own path racer. I am going with a Sturmey-Archer 2-speed rear hub, black/gold color scheme, and leather saddle with leather (or faux leather) bar tape.

Your comments and advice are welcome. And let me know what you think of the progress on my PPR build!

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Removed the rear derailleur.


Peugeot frame. The start of the build.


Lots of pitting on the frame. It will be painted black.





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The frame was stripped of paint, down to the metal, and then 3 coats of primer sprayed on.

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Purchased new tubes, along with rim tape and new bottom bracket bearings.

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The frame with 3 coats of black paint. I went with rattle can Dupli-Color paint. Again, this is a budget build.

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Of course, there will be gold lug-lining. Curious how many cans of primer and paint you needed.
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Of course, there will be gold lug-lining. Curious how many cans of primer and paint you needed.
Hi Classtime,

Yes, definitely will have gold lug lining. It took 2 cans of primer and 2 cans of black paint, all Dupli-Color. I sanded the frame in between each coat. Not the best respray, but definitely better than before. I also ordered new Peugeot decals, which will be applied under the clear coat.

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I had a spare 700c wheelset, the front with a vintage Shimano 105 hub, and the rear with an unbranded 6 cog freewheel and hub. As this build is going to have a Sturmey-Archer S2 hub, I decided to order a new rim and new spokes and try my hand at building my first wheel. I already had the SA 2-speed hub with a 22-tooth cog, so I just needed the rest of my parts to complete my rear wheel. I put the spare rear wheel aside for another project, and went with the front Shimano wheel for the PPR.

I ordered an AlexRim in 700c along with Sapim spokes. I took my time building the wheel in a 3-cross pattern. I then slowly trued the wheel and it came out great! About 2 hours later and I had a lightweight, alloy rear wheel with my SA hub attached, all trued up. I definitely enjoyed building this wheel and am looking forward to building some more!

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I like it! The paint job suits it perfectly for what you have in mind, IMO. If it were me, I'd try to find well-used parts with lots of patina for that pre-war look. Those Pashleys always look too new and shiny for my taste. Steel cottered cranks with flaking chrome FTW!
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The S2 hubs are an interesting ride. I like mine a lot, but they are not for everybody.
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If your paint is fully cured, you can wet sand it down with 1000 grit wet sanding paper then glaze and wax it to look more 'finished.'

I like where you're going with this. Upon seeing your initial post I thought, eww, doesn't this guy know a path racer is supposed to be black? Guess you knew that after all

Is that a kick-shift two speed hub? If so, I totally approve.
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Originally Posted by Lascauxcaveman View Post
If your paint is fully cured, you can wet sand it down with 1000 grit wet sanding paper then glaze and wax it to look more 'finished.'

I like where you're going with this. Upon seeing your initial post I thought, eww, doesn't this guy know a path racer is supposed to be black? Guess you knew that after all

Is that a kick-shift two speed hub? If so, I totally approve.
Hi Lascauxcaveman,

Thanks for your comments. Yes, I knew path racers are usually black, thus the paint change. =) I am definitely taking inspiration from the Guv'nor. And yes, the 2-speed hub is a kick-shift. Should be a great racer/cruiser for city riding (not looking to win any races with this one).

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After truing my rear wheel, I had my wheelset. The front wheel was super true, so no need to mess with that one. I painted the rims the same color black as the frame to match. 2 coats of black and 3 coats of clear. I then taped up the rims with Zefal rim tape and mounted my tubes and tires. I ordered Schwalbe Delta Cruisers in Cream. The front hub will have a vintage Simplex skewer - "Made in France." Super excited how my wheels turned out.

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I had a Nervar Star crankset from another project, so I decided to keep with the French theme on this one. I removed the small cog, cleaned the large cog and crankarm, and used washers on the backside to account for the "missing" small cog. Everything went back together nicely. I had to grind down the washers, but just a little. I now have a custom 53-tooth single Nervar Star crankset for the PPR.

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If y'all are wondering how I got the square-taper crankset to fit the bottom bracket, I replaced the original cotter-pin spindle with a Gipiemme square-taper spindle. I kept the original cups and added new ball bearings and grease. The Nervar crankset fit like a glove. And I will be adding Gipiemme pedals with cages and leather straps from a different project. Reuse and recycle.

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For brakes, I went with Universal side-pulls because I had them on hand. I did not like the look of the Mafac center-pulls that came with the frame. I drilled out the back side of the fork to inset the bolt, and I drilled the back side of the rear brake bridge for the rear bolt. All this was done prior to paint.

To customize the brakes a little more, I painted them matte black for a little visual appeal. The original front pads could not reach the 700c wheel, so I ordered offset brake pads for a little more reach. The rear pads worked fine with the original pads.

Here I am fitting the brakes on the fork prior to paint.

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Pretty inspirational build so far. I've got an old khs languishing in my side yard that could use this sort of treatment.
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Iím enjoying this project!!
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Efleigh89 and tyler_fred, thanks for your comments! Iím definitely enjoying the process! More pics to come!

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For the cockpit, this Peugeot came with drop bars and the dreaded AVA ďDeath Stem.Ē Um, no thanks... I decided the change the whole setup and ordered a PIVO French Stem and Sunlite North Road Bars. The North Roads were a little too long for my taste, so I sawed off 2 inches at each end and now they look good and feel better for my grip/reach. Of course, I mounted the bars upside down for that path racer look. Iíll post pics of the setup soon.

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This looks like a great project, looking forward to seeing the rest of the process and the final result!
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For the cockpit, this Peugeot came with drop bars and the dreaded AVA ďDeath Stem.Ē Um, no thanks... I decided the change the whole setup and ordered a PIVO French Stem and Sunlite North Road Bars. The North Roads were a little too long for my taste, so I sawed off 2 inches at each end and now they look good and feel better for my grip/reach. Of course, I mounted the bars upside down for that path racer look. Iíll post pics of the setup soon.

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upside down is the only way to go
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I like it! The paint job suits it perfectly for what you have in mind, IMO. If it were me, I'd try to find well-used parts with lots of patina for that pre-war look. Those Pashleys always look too new and shiny for my taste. Steel cottered cranks with flaking chrome FTW!
Hi non-fixie,

Thanks for the suggestion. Yes, I am using lots of used parts on this one, only going with new parts when needed. I like the patina look, but I will be "upgrading" certain parts for a newer look. I figure the more I ride the bike, the more it will get that weathered look. And I won't make a big deal if I get some scratches on it. This will be a rider, not a museum piece. =)

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The S2 hubs are an interesting ride. I like mine a lot, but they are not for everybody.
Hi Hoopdriver,

I went with the S2 because I wanted to try a Sturmey hub for a project. The wheel spins smooth, no complaints so far.

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Hi non-fixie,

Thanks for the suggestion. Yes, I am using lots of used parts on this one, only going with new parts when needed. I like the patina look, but I will be "upgrading" certain parts for a newer look. I figure the more I ride the bike, the more it will get that weathered look. And I won't make a big deal if I get some scratches on it. This will be a rider, not a museum piece. =)

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Love the Nervar Star cranks.

For future reference: steel cranks and rings are not to be dismissed too lightly. Besides the looks (which one may or may not appreciate) they actually add to the riding experience, IME. I've got a couple of bikes fitted with them and both have a fluidity (for want of a better word) in the pedaling action that is absent from my other bikes. I presume it's the weight and corresponding inertia of the chainset, and might not be what you're looking for going up steep hills, but for a path racer I would consider it a bonus.

Since everyone likes pictures, I'll add one: my hi-ten Mercier with a Nervar steel chainset, which served me beautifully during a week of touring in the flat area near Bordeaux:

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I'm going with Gipiemme pedals with Christophe toe clips and leather straps. These came with the Nervar cranks, so I will use them again. The Christophe toe clips are made in France - right on. I will paint the Gipiemme cages in gold for a little splash of color. Should look good with the other gold pieces I have in mind for this project.

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