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Old 11-30-18, 08:03 AM
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sugino mighty series crankset clones

The sugino mighty line of cranks are my favorite vintage crankset...the super mighty and competition are awesome.

Anyway...I know there is a company today that makes clones of these style vintage cranks right down to the crown crest on the crank arms but i dont know who makes them. I dont believe the crown crest has the "S" in it. I saw them on a bike and looked them up and down but for the life of me i cant recall who the manufacture is. Does anyone know? I think i would like to get a pair.

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Sugino still makes the Mighty crank, complete with crown. Are you talking about some different version?

https://www.suginoltd.co.jp/us/produ...ng/mighty.html
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Originally Posted by Aubergine View Post
Sugino still makes the Mighty crank, complete with crown. Are you talking about some different version?

https://www.suginoltd.co.jp/us/produ...ng/mighty.html
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There are those who would argue that the Sugino Mighty is itself a close copy of the Campy Record and Nuovo Record cranksets.
Count me as another fan. Photos courtesy of Velobase.

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yes very true

Great looking cranksets. I love the rings and how the inner circle is round when you disassemble them from the arms.
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SR, Ofmega, and Gipiemme also made copies of the Campagnolo Record crank, but I don't think that's what you're asking.

I don't know who makes them, but there are fairly cheap CNC'ed cranks to be found on eBay that look the part (but 130 bcd rings, not 144). Just search for "CNC crankset" and you'll find this one:

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Originally Posted by rhm View Post
SR, Ofmega, and Gipiemme also made copies of the Campagnolo Record crank, but I don't think that's what you're asking.

I don't know who makes them, but there are fairly cheap CNC'ed cranks to be found on eBay that look the part (but 130 bcd rings, not 144). Just search for "CNC crankset" and you'll find this one:

How the hell is that $30 for the whole crankset?
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IRD makes one similar, could be the company you are referring to. The Difiant version perhaps...
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I like the Sugino too, but when put next to the Campy my vote is for the latter...I like the fluting on the crank because it is not a flat relief, a bit more refined in my opinion.
The Holdsworth is a nice copy but did not need the "extra" advertising on the crank arms.
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Originally Posted by Piff View Post
How the hell is that $30 for the whole crankset?
Claims to be forged too. If so, sweet deal. And I prefer 130 (or110) to 144 anyway, for more hill-friendly gearing.
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Mighty Competition was 144mm BCD; there was also the Mighty Tour, with 110mm BCD:

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Originally Posted by xiaoman1 View Post
I like the Sugino too, but when put next to the Campy my vote is for the latter...I like the fluting on the crank because it is not a flat relief, a bit more refined in my opinion.
I agree, the Campy original is prettier and, obviously the Campy one is the original, the others are copies. And some of them are really nice copies; I've never heard of a Sugino Mighty failing at the spider the way the Campy does. Still, no denying the Campy is the original.

When it comes to the IRD that's now available, though, it is obviously a copy of the Sugino Mighty Tour. So Sugino deserves some credit for something.

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The Holdsworth is a nice copy but did not need the "extra" advertising on the crank arms.
I agree. I really don't understand the Holdsworth branding on that. Holdsworth never made components; they made frames and sold bicycles. I don't think it looks bad, but I don't know what bike i'd put it on. It wouldn't look right on something other than a Holdsworth, and it wouldn't look right on a Holdsworth either.
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Originally Posted by rhm View Post
I agree, the Campy original is prettier and, obviously the Campy one is the original, the others are copies. And some of them are really nice copies; I've never heard of a Sugino Mighty failing at the spider the way the Campy does. Still, no denying the Campy is the original.
LOL, the Sugino cranks would fail at or near the pedal eye instead... But only rarely. I've broken a few cranks and as a result tend to be careful in my crank choices.

The current Sugino Mighty Tour is my favorite crankset. Best made IMO, at least of the tapered spindle variety, and certainly not cheap. No longer a Campy copy.

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At 15 I began my job as an assembler at a big shop in '71. The Stronglight, Nervar and TA cranks were nice but Campy Record was the holy grail. Beautiful anodized finish, strong and precise. Status in our shop required riding at least a Raleigh Professional, International or Competition. When we unboxed our first Fuji Finest everybody else laughed and let the rookie build that piece of "japanese junk". I couldn't believe how smooth the Suntour V/Sugino Mighty drivetrain worked in the stand. The resident guru gave one a spin and stopped laughing. The Mighty Competition quickly became the first choice in crankset upgrades for shop employees as it gave Campy performance for a third of the price.

I couldn't afford anything more than a Super Course TT for my first decent road bike, as I was earning a buck sixty an hour. In '73 the shop owner decided to drop Fuji as it was eating into the sales of pricier european bikes. I snagged a closeout Finest and have been happy with the Mighty Competition for my road use ever since. My only regret is that I couldn't afford the Newest - those drilled out chainrings were sweet!
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Originally Posted by Salamandrine View Post
LOL, the Sugino cranks would fail at or near the pedal eye instead... But only rarely. I've broken a few cranks and as a result tend to be careful in my crank choices.

The current Sugino Mighty Tour is my favorite crankset. Best made IMO, at least of the tapered spindle variety, and certainly not cheap. No longer a Campy copy.
I raced the Mighty in the days when NR ruled and SR was the new hot thing. I loved that Sugino followed the existing standard to the "T" and that I could use all the best chainrings. Won a SR ring in a race. Raced it anytime a 43 was the best for the course.

On durability - I have yet to kill a Sugino outside of my early attempts at singe speeds using too long double bolts and wear from winter boots on the crank arms. I have however raced that Mighty and just squeaked by two crashes from NR canks breaking. (I've broken an Avocet crank the same way.)

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Originally Posted by Piff View Post
How the hell is that $30 for the whole crankset?
I've got one of these - also, it's $30 for the crankset AND bottom bracket. I also have an IRD Defiant and an FSA Gimondi, which is slightly different.
The quality of the Chinese Cheapo doesn't seem so bad unless you compare it to something of actual quality, like the IRD (which is very nice). I haven't had a chance to test it yet because I didn't think to check the chainring width, and I don't have a purpose for a 1/8" deal at the moment. The edges are very sharp and it feels unfinished, but I'm sure it'd be good for upcycling an old beat up frame into a "vintage" single-speed townie.
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Sugino Mighty Competition was the budget racer's crank in the 70's. When 42t chainrings ruled the small ring world.
EVERYONE winter trained in a 42 x17.

Their bottom brackets improved too, never the equal to Campagnolo but decent.
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Originally Posted by ed4406 View Post
At 15 I began my job as an assembler at a big shop in '71. The Stronglight, Nervar and TA cranks were nice but Campy Record was the holy grail. Beautiful anodized finish, strong and precise. Status in our shop required riding at least a Raleigh Professional, International or Competition. When we unboxed our first Fuji Finest everybody else laughed and let the rookie build that piece of "japanese junk". I couldn't believe how smooth the Suntour V/Sugino Mighty drivetrain worked in the stand. The resident guru gave one a spin and stopped laughing. The Mighty Competition quickly became the first choice in crankset upgrades for shop employees as it gave Campy performance for a third of the price.

I couldn't afford anything more than a Super Course TT for my first decent road bike, as I was earning a buck sixty an hour. In '73 the shop owner decided to drop Fuji as it was eating into the sales of pricier european bikes. I snagged a closeout Finest and have been happy with the Mighty Competition for my road use ever since. My only regret is that I couldn't afford the Newest - those drilled out chainrings were sweet!
Got pictures of that bike? Those Finests were nice machines.
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It's hanging up in the garage behind a few others right now, but I'll have it out after the holidays as I start winter maintenance. Still my favorite bike and drivetrain!
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It's hanging up in the garage behind a few others right now, but I'll have it out after the holidays as I start winter maintenance. Still my favorite bike and drivetrain!
id be curious to see pictures. I love those old finest bicycles. I have never actually seen a newest in real life up close but i have seen a few finests and enjoy them. All finests i have seen were still running the sugino cranksets.

I would really like to see some bike boom era documentaries made from the big companies of the day before the old employees are no longer around. Places like SUNTOUR, SUGINO, SR, etc etc. You dont hear much about them at all. All you hear is Campy this and Shimano that.....
Suntour had the market back then and they fouled it up. They had the superior products though........cyclone was amazing.....actually most of it was. I still very much love seeing old components still being used today. That really says something.

I may be a bit old fashion but i dont understand the argument that newer is better. Yes things are lighter but who cares? I dont live where it is too hilly. It likely matters there to a certain point. I have never been on a modern bike that i have really enjoyed at all. IT all seems to be a "look at me and my new shiney bike" contest....and yes a lot of them are really nice to look at. Perhaps some folks are faster and more comfortable on a newer machine. I dont know. Perhaps it is just marketing at work. The industry / business needs that to work so that would make sense.

I figure you are only as fast or as light as how hard you train and how much you weigh. You are the biggest factor on the bike you are on.
Eddy Mercx was pretty fast last i checked and he only had a 5 speed freewheel. I am not sure i ever will be faster than he was....ever. Nor will anyone else. I dont ride to race. I do know though that once i throw my leg over the right bike / setup and it feels fast or fun, i am in love. Most bikes today just dont. Its always the old ones for me....always. I guess that is good because it keeps things on the cheaper side of the hobby.....and there were some amazing bikes back in the day even in the middle of the range with some amazing components........and they still are.

Maybe some day ill find a modern machine that i like but until then, i love the old stuff.
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