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Old 11-30-18, 11:12 AM
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I am buying this Bianchi, but what is it anyways??

This bike is for sale near me, but out in the sticks, where there is miserable snow and cold, so the price is very low. I know it has the wrong wheels, the wrong brakes, the tires are cut, etc. But I just paid half the asking price of this bike just for V.O. handlebars, let alone the pedals and seat.

Looks like a low end Bianchi. Dropouts are crude, has integrated headset (fingers crossed), water bottle bosses, unreadable script that someone may recognize.

So what is it?



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Old 11-30-18, 11:50 AM
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I’m not positive, but I think that this might be their “Sprint” model. Early 1970’s if I am remembering correctly. There was a bit of information on this in one of the Bianchi model identification threads...
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Originally Posted by orcas island View Post
I’m not positive, but I think that this might be their “Sprint” model. Early 1970’s if I am remembering correctly. There was a bit of information on this in one of the Bianchi model identification threads...
Cool. I will look for that thread.
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The presence of stamped dropouts suggests a hi-tensile Bianchi Calibrati 1-20 tubeset, while the absence of top tube cable stops are indicative of a club racer Rekord variant. If so, the lack of a rear derailleur hanger indicates pre-1974. Bottle bosses would be incongruous with the apparent era but are located abnormally high on the down tube and may have been owner installed. Assuming early 1970s, the serial number should be located on the front collar of the upper head lug and will indicate the frame manufacture date.

The headset is not an integral version. Integral headsets have the cups formed as part of the lug (i.e. the cups are integral with the lugs - see photo). Bearing races are then installed in the lug cups. The subject bicycle clearly has separate cups that are pressed into the lugs.

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Originally Posted by T-Mar View Post
The presence of stamped dropouts suggests a hi-tensile Bianchi Calibrati 1-20 tubeset, while the absence of top tube cable stops are indicative of a club racer Rekord variant. If so, the lack of a rear derailleur hanger indicates pre-1974. Bottle bosses would be incongruous with the apparent era but are located abnormally high on the down tube and may have been owner installed. Assuming early 1970s, the serial number should be located on the front collar of the upper head lug and will indicate the frame manufacture date.

The headset is not an integral version. Integral headsets have the cups formed as part of the lug (i.e. the cups are integral with the lugs - see photo). Bearing races are then installed in the lug cups. The subject bicycle clearly has separate cups that are pressed into the lugs.

Ok, thank you. I have never seen a Bianchi integral headset in real life before. I agree with your observations about the bottle bosses. Whatever this really, it is Celeste-Patina, and I have boxes of low end Campy parts because they remind me of my first "real bike" (Cilo Pacer).
This will look good with Three arm Campagnolo Sport (I have the steel or aluminum)
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Personally I seldom look at anything without a integral RD hanger. That way you at least get a decent rider with a good chance of tre tubi thrifti ChroMo
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Curious,

Does anything on the bike indicate the place of manufacture?
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Originally Posted by CliffordK View Post
Curious,

Does anything on the bike indicate the place of manufacture?
I'm not aware of any non-Italian Bianchi manufacturing prior to 1980 and the subject bicycle appears to pre-daten that. The serial number would confirm the origin, as would would the bottom bracket threading standard.
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My first road bike was a bottom-of-the-line Bianchi Corsa. The fork crown was very similar to yours, although slightly more ornate. Stamped dropouts, no derailleur hanger, plain gauge carbon steel frame, and one-piece head lugs and head tube, perhaps because it was a 21" frame, or perhaps because it was a cheapo model. It road surprisingly well for what it was, and I got a lot of good use of it.
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my questions is, how much did you pay?
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Good call on those bottle bosses, that's something to be wary of.

I recently bought a 19~81 Tre-Tubi Bianchi Nuovo Racing for under $200, a great deal until I discovered that the seattube bottle bosses were in fact JB-Welded on (one had broken off), and unfortunately the butted tube was also drilled thru in two places. It will be a good, and good-looking, rider (for me @142lbs and nearing 60-y-o), I've already done one 55-mile ride on it, but it's value is seriously compromised.

I've always liked cheap bikes as builds because the risk of investment is low and so the bikes find more-varied usefulness. I often question the expenditure of so many hours making such lesser-valued bikes "right", but that's my hobby and has been for almost forever. I prefer to stretch out the rebuilding and detailing process as the bike "pays for itself" through actual usage, especially as the fit and function changes can be validated in more or less real time, and with defects/issues presenting themselves as early on as possible. This process of "humble origins" often starts with an oil-can tune-up and basic wheel/tire/brake prep, with each subsequent ride prompting one or more additional detail repairs, stem change, cable restoration, etc.
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my questions is, how much did you pay?
$100
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Appears it may have begun life as a Record/Rekord ca. 1971.

Kitting included NERVAR Sport chainset, Campag Valentino gear ensemble, Universal Extra brakes, 3TTT Touriste stem & bar, Sheffield pedals.

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Originally Posted by juvela View Post
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Appears it may have begun life as a Record/Rekord ca. 1971.

Kitting included NERVAR Sport chainset, Campag Valentino gear ensemble, Universal Extra brakes, 3TTT Touriste stem & bar, Sheffield pedals.

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