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Old 12-01-18, 10:42 AM
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Travel bike?

It’s the time of year when I think about being somewhere warmer. And then yesterday I talked with a guy riding his Ritchey Breakaway (?) and he raved about how he loved the bike. The ease of travel with that frame was just an added bonus.
So, when I got home, I looked at the Ritcheys. Nice enough, but the carbon fork offended my tastes.
Then I remembered S&S couplings. But on a vintage bike? Guess it can be done...this popped up,on eBay



Anyone ever done this sort of conversion on a CV bike? And no, I would not do this on a 7-11 EM

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I had S&S couplers put on my 84 Schwinn Letour Luxe, for $600. Why that bike? Because it was the last one I still had in the US. The builder moved two cable stops so as to not interfere with the couplers. I also bought three cable splitters. I painted it (badly) myself, and am in process of trying to do it better. Initially I built my own case, from luan, and used it on many trips. Then a year ago, I stumbled upon a used S&S hard case for $100. It makes for a luxurious combination. I highly recommend all of it.

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Look at the 2017 Raleigh Grand Prix it is a frame only from Raleigh that sports a licensed ritchey system.
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I can Bikeflight a full rinko bike cross country for under $50. And you can rinko-ize a bike for not much money at all.
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I travel mostly international. A coupled bike is a must.
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I can Bikeflight a full rinko bike cross country for under $50. And you can rinko-ize a bike for not much money at all.
ok, you got me. What’s a rinko bike?
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ok, you got me. What’s a rinko bike?
It's a Japanese thing, travelling with your bike by train, but can be used for other things. The only mods are a split rear fender (if you have fenders), and making sure your cables can detach with the handlebars. Here's my "rinko" bike.




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these guys have a lot of options and while not exactly a deal they seem in line with a reasonable cost for the product.

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Rinko? That’s what it’s called. Saw the end of a travel show where a guy was touring Japan this way. Sounds pretty cool.
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Have you seen anyone that currently has the frame for sale? I can find complete bikes, but no frames.
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Have you seen anyone that currently has the frame for sale? I can find complete bikes, but no frames.
the link I posted has frames for sale. or at least frames as a kit anyway, but you are probably gonna need all that stuff that come wiith it, so seems an ok deal.
http://www.bilenky.com/product-page/...travel-package

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Della Santa if its your size!

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Have you seen anyone that currently has the frame for sale? I can find complete bikes, but no frames.
How tall are you?

What size are you looking for?
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If I were looking for a coupled travel bike, I'd think about either a chromed or Ti frame...less worry about potential paint damage during travel/shipping.
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That Raleigh looks pretty nice
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Thanks for all the suggestions and information. I am going to think about this a bit...can’t be buying a big item for myself in December, as it did occur to me that there is a holiday coming up.
That said, I think the search will be for 58 cm, no carbon, standard brakes ( I just don’t have the patience for canti’s), and sized to use components that are already on my other bikes so I don’t need special tools, or more wheels, or an app to adjust the derailleur.
Will let you know how it goes.....
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Another suggestion. Have you considered an Alex Moulton? They are not even remotely cheap, but every once in a while people stumble into a great deal on a vintage one. Should pack down to a small suitcase due to the small wheels. That idea appeals to me. I doubt it'd be as convenient as a true folder like a Brompton or something, but the ride and performance would be more comparable to a traditional bike.

OTOH those S&S couplers are a pretty amazing invention. I remember seeing them at Interbike when they first were introduced. I was skeptical but apparently they work great. A traditional diamond frame with couplers is now a proven solution for a travel bike. Might be faster to pack than the above, and less money as well. Also, why not combine techniques? Use couplers and Rinko stuff. No reason not to that I can see.
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Thanks for all the suggestions and information. I am going to think about this a bit...can’t be buying a big item for myself in December, as it did occur to me that there is a holiday coming up.
That said, I think the search will be for 58 cm, no carbon, standard brakes ( I just don’t have the patience for canti’s), and sized to use components that are already on my other bikes so I don’t need special tools, or more wheels, or an app to adjust the derailleur.
Will let you know how it goes.....
https://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/2277826/
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Originally Posted by Mr. Spadoni View Post
Thanks for all the suggestions and information. I am going to think about this a bit...can’t be buying a big item for myself in December, as it did occur to me that there is a holiday coming up.
That said, I think the search will be for 58 cm, no carbon, standard brakes ( I just don’t have the patience for canti’s), and sized to use components that are already on my other bikes so I don’t need special tools, or more wheels, or an app to adjust the derailleur.
Will let you know how it goes.....
This is why I went coupled instead of BikeFriday. Normal frame, normal racks and such. Nothing proprietary.
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Originally Posted by gugie View Post
It's a Japanese thing, travelling with your bike by train, but can be used for other things. The only mods are a split rear fender (if you have fenders), and making sure your cables can detach with the handlebars. Here's my "rinko" bike.




So a Rinko is just a torn down bike--nothing really special about it.
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A bike friday would be on my short list if I were looking for a travel bike.
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So a Rinko is just a torn down bike--nothing really special about it.
Sure, but technically it has to break down to a certain size. If it meets this requirement, you can bring it onto a train in Japan and hang it up on a hook. The Japanese have taken this to a new level, a well planned rinko bike will go back together in, say,15 minutes and without any special tools.

Here's a list of some common characteristics:

1. Wheels come off quickly (yeah, duh)
2. Fork comes off without any special tools. Typically rinko bikes use sealed bearings so grease and contamination aren't an issue.
3. Handlebars come off, cables disconnect from brakes and derailleurs if not using downtube shifters. Because of this, many
people choose to use downtube shifters.
4. Rear fender is split and easily removed/replaced.
5. Pedals are removable without a pedal wrench
6. All of the aboe done quiclky and easily.

When I first saw Jan Heine pimping rinko, my thought was that, in the US, it was a solution in search of a problem, since our train system doesn't allow for a bike bag to be hung in the same car as you're riding in (at least the trains I've taken). After I shipped my bike back east for French Fender Day last year, and getting my fenders dinged up in the process (and headset cup destroyed), I decided to modify a bike I built to meet this new requirement.

Rinko no bueno.



Rinko bueno

Split cable stops help easy cable removal.

I've found that Ritchey cable disconnects make this easy and a workaround for bikes that don't have split cable stops.




So, rinko is breaking down your bike, yes, but quickly, and the ability to put it back together quickly.
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Here's a good pictorial of a Rinko bike broken down for travel.

Natsuko did a demo of rinko breakdown at this year's French Fender Day, I think it was under 15 minutes.
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