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Curiosity of vintage F.I.R. Italy components

Old 12-01-18, 02:22 PM
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Curiosity of vintage F.I.R. Italy components

I'm lacing a wheelset using F.i.R. EA50 rims which lead me to research more of this maker. I noticed on velobase some attractive derailleurs,though no specs and very little is mentioned.

Anyone care to share?
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I never really noticed them before but they most certainly are rebranded, maybe Dia Compe brakes and Sachs derailleurs.
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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll View Post
I never really noticed them before but they most certainly are rebranded, maybe Dia Compe brakes and Sachs derailleurs.
I have two NOS pair of Fir rims, I bought them as I saw them way back on a Confente and I suspected they were original to the bike.
I have not built them up, seem quality. the pairs I have are not especially lightweight, but most rims in the 390-410 gram weight range are plenty stout enough. I was not aware their were any other branded components.
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'As seen on PC' they appear circa 1980's. Race changer short cage. Marked, Italy





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Interesting! There are no entries at velobase.com for these components, nor are there any images at disrealigears.co.uk .
You are in a position to contribute to both these resources. I had never heard of this marque before. Apparently, Fabricca Italia Ruote ( Italian Wheel Factory) had "disappeared" from the market in 2005, but had a website as of 2012. They apparently sought to expand their offerings from more than rims to components during the Eighties. They created their own designs rather than simply rebadge another product ( at least according to disrealigears.co.uk).
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Those derailleurs are cool. I have a set of FIR EL 25 rims that came OEM on my ‘89 Bianchi.
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I recently bought a Chorus hubbed, FIR Sirius rimmed wheelset for my Bottecchia Professional SL bike and this is the first time I owned wheels with FIR rims. So far they are feeling really nice, stable and solid on the road. Not surprising as they are not that light, as far as tubular rims go, but I have a feeling that these will be wheels that I would hardly have to true back straight through the years I will own it. Found out researching FIR rims that they do have a reputation for being high quality, reliable, tough rims.
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The subject derailleurs are from the early 1990s FIR Gemini group. I saw this group in 1993. They were FIR proprietary design but reportedly contract manufactured by Campagnolo. The rear was 8 speed index compatible for Campagnolo spacing. The levers were down tube only and index/friction switchable. At the time, FIR also had a crankset, cartridge bottom bracket (steel or titanium spindles), hubset with a Campagnolo compatible freehub, single pivot brakeset, headset, seat post and, of course, rims.
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^thanks as always, T-mar

More tidbits;

FIR (Fabbrica Italiana Ruote) wheels have enjoyed an influential part in cycling history. Past riders have included Mario Cipollini and they have enjoyed many podiums in both road and off road events.

A Brief History:

1956: Arrigoni brothers found FIR in Boltiere (Bergamo province)

1960-1970 FIR introduces the quality control during the manufacturing process and selects some professional cycling teams to test its new products.

1980 FIR is the first wheels’ manufacturer to introduce the use of carbon in wheel manufacturing process, creating the “Aru System”.
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Pretty sure Fiamme became F.I.R. or at least a part of it.

Not positive, but worth a bet.
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I went back and checked some magazines circa 1993 and found a 1993 road test of a Pesenti Carbon with the FiR Gemini components. The article mentions that the components were "new", implying that they came out circa 1993. So, they're more mid-1990s than early 1990s.

I also found evidence of a 1993-1994 UCI category 2 team, Rossin-FiR. This is the only team I've aware of that had major FiR sponsorship, outside of the 1991 Jolly-Club 88-FiR team. Given the era and level of sponsorship,it's possible that they used the FiR Gemini group but I haven't been able to find any photographic evidence.

Arguably, FiR's biggest success in the mid-1990s came courtesy of Tony Rominger. He used FiR disc wheels to set his 1994 Hour Records and used FiR rims in winning the 1995 Giro d'Italia.

I also just realized that I've been previously incorrect in typing the brand name. It is FiR, not FIR.


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Hello T-Mar,

Thank you so much for all these informations. I'm currently searching for information on FiR.

Your thread has been really helpful. Do you know from which magazine come from the Pesenti X FiR groupset test by David Ramsden?
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I have two tubulars, ST 120, in my stock. The spoke calculator, downloaded, has 19 FiR rims listed to choose from.
FiR Antara 2000
FiR EA10
FiR EA50
FiR EA60
FiR EA61
FiR EA65
FiR EL20
FiR EL45
FiR ES35
FiR EU90
FiR MT 232
FiR Net97
FiR Net97(MEASURE TO BE SURE!)
FiR Net97 (MEASURE TO BE SURE!) - Difference ERD listed.
FiR SC150 actual weight 380gms!
FiR SC170
FiR SC200
FiR SC350
FiR SRG30 (30mm deep aero rim, 500gms)
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Seems like a very nice calculator. I just laced a pair of SRG 30. I was looking for general information on the brand, they did rims, groupset, sponsored team, and I can not find any catalogs about FiR.
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I have a set of FIR Rigel tubular rims on my Holdsworth. They have a beautiful brushed aluminium finish.

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Wow that's a really clean pair. How is the overall build look like? Are they tubular or clincher? I struggled to find a pair of 36 holes low profile and affordable.
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Here are two pics of FiR group sets available in 1988. The Apollo road double group was available for $185.00 through ZAR international located in Stamford, Connecticut.

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They were top players in the aero/TT world with their disc wheels like A.R.D System, Killing System, Halley System and Jumbo, highly sought after wheels up to date for those who are in that biz.
Also their 3-4-5-6 spoke carbon wheels are cool (I know it's a matter of taste) but also like hen's teeth. Their deep section alu rims, the Aria, Rialto, Super Rialto and Polar (MTB) and I guess there were more are the affordable "Shamals" whenever they pop up, I have let like 2-3 pairs of 700c Arias run away for EUR~90, because at the time I didn't need them, also on the "Tiny EGOist Rossin" I have a 650c rear Rialto, it is beautiful, but chances are low for an affordable matching front.

















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Originally Posted by Cyclopast View Post
Hello T-Mar,

Thank you so much for all these informations. I'm currently searching for information on FiR.

Your thread has been really helpful. Do you know from which magazine come from the Pesenti X FiR groupset test by David Ramsden?
I'll save you the trouble of hunting it down. Here's the FiR component review from the subject article. Sorry it took so long. My scanner died quite some time ago and I don't own a camera phone, so it can take lengthy periods to get images done for members, especially if my memory isn't cooperating with the full "to do" list when the opportunity arises.

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I'm a fan, I have a couple of wheelsets with FiR rims. These are 'Tour Ceramic'.....the black is a ceramic coating. (I borrowed them from another bike for this pic as the wheels weren't built yet, hence the blue nipples that seem out of place.)

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