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Thrift store find - anyone heard of "Derby" bicycle?

Old 12-03-18, 06:50 AM
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Thrift store find - anyone heard of "Derby" bicycle?

Hi all
I found this bike at a local thrift store & bought it ($34.95) because I'd never heard of it + it had a cool wishbone rear frame like a vintage Cannondale.
Can anyone tell me about it?
What year is it? Is it worth anything?
Thanks, I appreciate any info.






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Old 12-03-18, 07:23 AM
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Cheap department store sold bike probably made by Murray. Because it is a girls bike it is worth maybe $5 if you need parts from it. Clean it up and find someone to ride it but do not put anymore money into it. Roger
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Old 12-03-18, 08:13 AM
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Derby was the bicycle brand of Windsor-Lloyd, a company that appears to have specialized in aftermarket automotive products, primarily lubricants but also fan belts, spark plugs, ignition coils, etc. The company dates back to at least the 1930s with the bicycle brand dating back to at least 1938. I'm not aware of a store chain with which they were associated, so they may have supplied mom & pop type garages.

The chainguard looks 1960s but I'm not convinced that it's OEM to the bicycle, given the difference in finish. The bicycle itself looks like it could date back to the 1950s.
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Old 12-03-18, 08:09 PM
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Cheap department store girl's bike, $5 sounds right. Looks Rollfast"ish" to me. Crimped rear drop outs were awful. I had a JC Higgins (Sears) with a similar wishbone rear stay. They were common back then.
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Old 12-03-18, 08:43 PM
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I will admit that that isn't my cup of tea.

But, at least around here, those old tank bikes frequently have asking prices in excess of $200 on Craigslist (not that they necessarily sell quickly). Sometimes significantly in excess of that.

And that bike looks like it is in much better shape than most of them. And, unique branding isn't bad either, although admitting the original build quality looks somewhat cheap. But, other brands were often more chrome and fluff than actual quality.

What yours doesn't have is a spring fork, or even a fake sprung fork.

https://eugene.craigslist.org/bik/d/...753854600.html
https://eugene.craigslist.org/bik/d/...740484299.html
https://eugene.craigslist.org/bik/d/...754828076.html
https://eugene.craigslist.org/bik/d/...760743622.html
https://eugene.craigslist.org/bik/d/...752689330.html

I'm going to disagree with @T-Mar . I think the chainguard looks like it came with the bike OEM. Matching brand. Right length with rear bolt & fender cutout. Perhaps it was made, one color fits all. It would have been originally finished very shiny.

The one thing that may not be original. I think the rear fender may have been cut. Perhaps the front fender too. Were they damaged?

One might look for a rolled edge on the fenders.

My guess is your bike would come in somewhere between $100 and $300.
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Old 12-03-18, 08:45 PM
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Odd, what is the white button?



Are there batteries inside of the tank? A way to open the tank?

It is quite possible that both front and rear fenders had lights that subsequently have been cut off.
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Old 12-03-18, 08:56 PM
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Odd, what is the white button?



Are there batteries inside of the tank? A way to open the tank?

It is quite possible that both front and rear fenders had lights that subsequently have been cut off.
It's a horn. Similar to this.
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Old 12-03-18, 09:22 PM
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Horn?

I guess that brings up the question whether it is 24" or 26"
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Old 12-04-18, 01:16 AM
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A horn? No....Im pretty sure that button activates the parachute brake!

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Originally Posted by Pcampeau View Post
A horn? No....Im pretty sure that button activates the parachute brake!
Or maybe the oil slick, or possibly the smoke screen?
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Originally Posted by CliffordK View Post
...I'm going to disagree with @T-Mar . I think the chainguard looks like it came with the bike OEM. Matching brand. Right length with rear bolt & fender cutout. Perhaps it was made, one color fits all. It would have been originally finished very shiny....
I'm going to stand by my original statement. If the company was going for "one color fits all" with the chain guard, why wouldn't they also do it with the mud guards? Convention was to match the finish on the chain and mud guards.

Also, it looks like the chain guard has been bent or notched to fit the rear mud guard. The fit is too close and has abraded the paint on the mud-guard. It looks like the chain guard has been altered to fit the bicycle. I believe the matching brand on the chain guard is a red herring.

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Old 12-04-18, 06:55 AM
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Cool looking bike. Worth $35 for sure. The chain guard looks stock to me. The entire bike does. And regarding that button on the pod, I remember someone had a bike from the neighborhood where the pod opened up to reveal a small storage container. I'm not saying that is the case here but it's been done before.
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Originally Posted by Dan Burkhart View Post
Or maybe the oil slick, or possibly the smoke screen?
You have to use the term "horn" loosely. I had one of those on a red Murray tank bike in the early sixties. I think they were engineered not to disturb any adults more than ten feet away
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Originally Posted by Dan Burkhart View Post
Or maybe the oil slick, or possibly the smoke screen?
Nitro boost. Obvi.
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Originally Posted by FBOATSB View Post
You have to use the term "horn" loosely. I had one of those on a red Murray tank bike in the early sixties. I think they were engineered not to disturb any adults more than ten feet away
Hmmm... I could imagine giving young kids a toy horn.

However, I bet that thing could be upgraded to a 120 to 150 decibel air horn? 175 decibel train horn?
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I just scored a '66 Derby which is the exact same SE frame as my Hawthorne.
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Looks to me like the fenders have been "bobbed" and repainted.

I'm thinking the fenders likely matched the chainguard originally. The guard looks bent in which would explain the fender contact area.

The crimped and spot-welded dropout attachment at the rear axle is appropriate to the overall construction and price-point imo.

Still a potentially good rider after all of these years. Rear hub may need lubrication and the chain tension should be checked on, all to assure braking reliability.
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#2

i have two Derbys now.
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Theres no way thats worth $5.. also no way its $300. At least not in my area. Could be a neato cruiser for somebody under $100 imo. $35 seems like a deal for somebody looking for a cruiser.
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Posters have reported that in the U.S. market the Derby badge was a house brand for the Pep Boys auto supply stores.

Would expect that through the years they would have employed more than one vendor...


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