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Old 12-06-18, 08:49 AM
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1948 Bianchi Folgore

So I still don't have enough posts to enable me to attach pics but I received my latest machine yesterday. An amateur restore with wrong decals but overall it presents nicely. Although I'm really a balloon tire collector I've always wanted an early Bianchi in celeste with the Cambio Corsa drivetrain. I need to find a set of period brake levers, get some cable and a new set of single tubes and I should be ready to roll. If the forum has a vintage Bianchi expert I sure would appreciate some help with the proper brake set-up--manufacturer and model as well as a good pic of what the head tube and seat post decals should look like and a source for these. Nothing on EBAy is correct and I've reached out to Gus Salmone but haven't heard anything yet. Thanks, Shawn
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I had no idea Bianchi used Celeste paint way back in 48!

I have no answers, but Ill give this a bump until an expert like Bianchigirl comes along.
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@Freqman1 keep replying to the post to get the posit count up... where did you find this, what is your plan etc break it up
@Bianchigirll heads up on what could be an interesting bike
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The bike was found on EBay but didn't go the auction didn't go the distance. It came with both a chain guard that I have not seen before as well as mudguards. Looks like it may have lived in Vienna, Austria for a while. I plan on riding it! V/r Shawn
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The bike was found on EBay but didn't go the auction didn't go the distance. It came with both a chain guard that I have not seen before as well as mudguards. Looks like it may have lived in Vienna, Austria for a while. I plan on riding it! V/r Shawn
Did it happen to be this one posted by @camelopardalis over in the "Are You Looking For One of These?" thread?

Sweet bike! And welcome to BF!

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The seller pulled it out of auction

.https://www.ebay.com/itm/1940s-Bianc....m43663.l44720
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Yes this is the bike. It also came with a color matched set of guards. I should be able to post pics shortly. V/r Shawn
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So here are some pics I took yesterday after putting it together. V/r Shawn





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Wow does that release the rear hub to allow it to move forward for shifting down? Curios as how you shift up.....other than stopping very cool
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Yes the top lever releases the rear wheel. You have to freewheel, release the top lever and momentarily pedal backwards while moving the lower level to the next gear. You might be able to see the dropouts have 'teeth' that enable this to happen. Kinda sketchy but you can Google "Cambio Corsa" and see how it shifts. V/r Shawn
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Several points:

1. Very cool!

2. You are a brave man, I think, to want to try that gear setup. I'm into funky old tech, but I have to draw the line somewhere.

3. Vienne is a town in France, near Lyon. And yes, there is a place there called "Place St Severe." Check it out on Google Maps!

4. If you want the perfect saddle for that bike, this was on ebay a couple years ag. As purchased:


After restoration:


I still have it. I figure the buyer will want it stained brown or black... or I could paint it celeste.
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Neat bike for sure.
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Very nice, congrats! 👍 That head tube & headset combo is sweet. 😎
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Very nice, congrats! 👍 That head tube & headset combo is sweet. 😎
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Originally Posted by Giacomo 1 View Post
I had no idea Bianchi used Celeste paint way back in 48!

I have no answers, but Ill give this a bump until an expert like Bianchigirl comes along.

thanks for your your confidence but this bike is a little old for me, although it is pretty cool.
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Vienne is a town in Eastern France, Rhone Valley... My mother's birth town. Fab bike, just shows that although there's progress, the basics are still the same.



The former home of your Bike.

Just spotted the post from @rhm . Always late to the party...
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Very cool bike! That saddle by RHM would be a perfect saddle for it...
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Interesting to imagine this bike in this small town in France not long after the war. My general understanding is that most of Europe was just devastated at that time, and the Bianchi factory was bombed because it was a supplier to Italy. I wonder if bicycle production was continuous through that period. Must have been a well-to-do person to own it in that small town.
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Very cool bike! That saddle by RHM would be a perfect saddle for it...
Its on the way! V/r Shawn
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One story I've heard about the genesis of the famous celeste color is it originated post-war from mixing military surplus white, green (maybe yellow?) and blue - the only paints readily available in that place at that time. It may be apocryphal, but I like it.

So 1948 would be around that time.

Even with the 'bad' resto, that's a very cool bike.
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One story I've heard about the genesis of the famous celeste color is it originated post-war from mixing military surplus white, green (maybe yellow?) and blue - the only paints readily available in that place at that time. It may be apocryphal, but I like it.

So 1948 would be around that time.

Even with the 'bad' resto, that's a very cool bike.

Even Bianchi is unsure of the origin of the celeste color but it was introduced well before the war. Re: the resto; its not hideous but as someone who restores bikes I look at things a little more critically than others might. I don't intend to make this a show bike but something I can ride and have fun with. I just need to make a few minor corrections such as painting the head tube off-white as well as a band of off-white on the seat tube with the proper decals and a light color sand and polish. Then I call it done and ride! V/r Shawn
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Cool bike and the saddle will be the icing, let's see more pics when it comes in.
@juvela may have info, lately I believe he has been hanging in your neck of the woods.
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Cool bike and the saddle will be the icing, let's see more pics when it comes in.
@juvela may have info, lately I believe he has been hanging in your neck of the woods.

I actually contacted @juvela before I made the deal on this bike--he was of great help in me making up my mind to get this bike. Once I get everything sorted I'll post an update. V/r Shawn
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I need to find a set of period brake levers,
I have a set of levers I believe and I doubt that I will need them. They are complete and in very good condition...

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