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Old 12-11-18, 01:23 PM
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I just picked up yet another Italvega from the Bike Exchange. We are moving to a new location and last Sunday Myself and a few other volunteers stripped about 50 low end Department store bikes for whatever we thought we could use, mainly tires, pedals, seats and some shifters. The rest went into a huge pile to be recycled. We didn't really enjoy throwing so many usable bikes away as our mission is to rehab bikes and donate them back into the community but what we tossed was of such poor quality and condition that they weren't worth the time to fix them.

I am not sure where they had been hiding but my gaze fell on two frames sitting apart from the rest . A Raleigh international and an Italvega Nuovo Record. Both had been stripped of their Campi hardware and were just frames and forks.

Of course they had to go home with me.

Which brings me to the reason for this post

Here are pictures of three models of Italvega that I have been or am currently working on. I encourage anyone who has a n originally equipped bike to add some pictures for future reference.
The Yellow Nuovo Sport is in the process of being repainted Rustoleum Yellow and the fork , which has a chrome crown and spats has defied my attempts to spray a clear enamel over the yellow color coat. Both attempts have alagatered as soon as I applied the clear. The clear adhered to the chrome parts so I am repainting the yellow and leaving it at that. I hate spraying enamel. Apparently Rustoleum makes acrylic lacquer in black, white, red, yellow , and clear. For my next paint job I am using lacquer.

Via Sport frame


Nuovo Sport frame - Flash Photo


Natural light


stamped fork ends


Campi Dropouts


Nuovo Record frame and fork

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If you have an original ItalVega Nuovo Record could you spec the original equipment as well. I haven't seen a catalogue scan for this model. I believe it came with a Stronglight 49D crank and Universal center pull or side pull brakes and Campi derailleurs.
I have a Stronglight crank and might swap the centerpulls off the Nuovo Sport since this will be the more valuable bike when finished . I also have a set of Nisi Toro 27 x 1 1/4" wheels which may have come on this bike (not sure).
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I always had a soft spot for Italvegas. Where they considered more a mid level bike by 1970's standards?
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If you have an original ItalVega Nuovo Record could you spec the original equipment as well. I haven't seen a catalogue scan for this model. I believe it came with a Stronglight 49D crank and Universal center pull or side pull brakes and Campi derailleurs.
I have a Stronglight crank and might swap the centerpulls off the Nuovo Sport since this will be the more valuable bike when finished . I also have a set of Nisi Toro 27 x 1 1/4" wheels which may have come on this bike (not sure).

I have a '74 NR, and like you haven't found an exact brochure. From what I've gathered it had NR f&r derailleurs and shifters with Universal 61 centerpulls and calipers, 49D crankset, 3T Record stem w/3T bars. The hubs may have been Gnutti, and I'm not sure about the rims, but I think tubulars of some ilk. Seatpost I don't recall seeing a spec. .

I built mine up mostly that way, but decided on Campy hubs w/tubulars (newer - 80's), Universal 68 sidepulls, and I had a Campy seatpost - so it went on there.

I like the way it rides.
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I have a '74 NR, and like you haven't found an exact brochure. From what I've gathered it had NR f&r derailleurs and shifters with Universal 61 centerpulls and calipers, 49D crankset, 3T Record stem w/3T bars. The hubs may have been Gnutti, and I'm not sure about the rims, but I think tubulars of some ilk. Seatpost I don't recall seeing a spec. .

I built mine up mostly that way, but decided on Campy hubs w/tubulars (newer - 80's), Universal 68 sidepulls, and I had a Campy seatpost - so it went on there.

I like the way it rides.
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Frame is three tube Columbus DB.

Pedals were Sheffield.

Ordinary quality headset, probably from OFMEGA.

Plain steel saddle pillar.

Wheels had FIAMME red label tubular rims.

Two other liveries were green and brown.

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Frame is three tube Columbus DB.

Pedals were Sheffield.

Ordinary quality headset, probably from OFMEGA.

Plain steel saddle pillar.

Wheels had FIAMME red label tubular rims.

Two other liveries were green and brown.

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i skipped right over the headset. The one that came with the frame as I bought it doesn't have any markings that I see, but is distinguished by the top cup adjustment - pin holes in the sides, not wrench flats. My frame is blue like the OPs.

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Sorry to derail the thread, but I just want to get this straight. You guys were going to recycle the raleigh and italvega frames?
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A Nuovo Record was my first good bike. I bought it new in 1975 from Broadway Cyclery in Fresno.


The frame was painted white with black decals, and looked to be identical to the Super Speciale, including the rectangular gold foil Columbus "tubi rinforzati" decal and had no braze on fittings. Here's an identical frame in a smaller size belonging to forum member TokyoZack that I found in an old thread:

My completed Italvega Record build. (mostly completed)


The original build on mine:

Campagnolo Nouvo Record derailleurs and downtube shifters.

Campagnolo Tipo high flange hubs with Fiamme Red Label tubular rims

Ofmega crankset & bottom bracket

Sheffield quill pedals with Christophe toe clips and straps

Universal 61 centerpull brakes & levers, with Campy top tube cable clips

Ofmega headset

3TTT bar & stem

Unpadded leather over plastic Unicanitor saddle

Seatpost had an allen bolt clamp on each side and a red bushing in the center

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I have a 1972 Gran Rally , which is similar to the NR model. It has Campy drop outs and fork tips , Ofmega headset(changed to Campy NR) , 3ttt Bar and Stem, Universal center pull brakes(changed to Campy NR), Campy SR cranks(175 length), Campy NR derailleurs with Campy shifters , Campy Tipo hubs laced to Fiamme tubular wheels(Changed to Campy Record hubs with Rigida wheels , clinchers), Zeus Competition seat post and Cinelli saddle. I have pretty good information that leads me to believe my bike was changed out early on in its life , plus I changed some things as I mentioned. The bike rides very well as equipped , it seems very responsive , a plus to the stable! Joe
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factory yellow pint serial no. 4578
Thanks for the replies guys!
Lots of good info.

Straight block, great job on your bike.

I have been wondering how original I should try to make the Nuovo Record. I think I am not going to stress over it and just do my thing.
I have a lot of great Japanese goodies and almost no Campi stuff and the one thing , a seat post, doesn't fit.
I just picked up a set of skinny Rigida 700 c rims on Shimano hubs that I think I will use. I have a fluted SR seat post and a variety of suntour freewheels in 5, 6 and 7 cogs.
I just mounted the seven speed Winner on the hub which has a 126 mm axle and even though the spacing of the dropouts is about 121 mm I shoehornd it in there and it looks like it fits. We ' ll see.
Also yesterday, I grabbed a ItalVega mixte and brought it home to scavenge parts off. I pulled the headset cups and they fit the Nuovo sport I am using them unless I find soomething better.
Also the mixte had the Universal model 61 brakes so they are moving over as well.
The Mixte is Yellow and the paint looks original so add that to the possible ItalVega color palette .
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Hi. I don’t have an Italvega, but I DO have a 1978 Univega Gran Rally which has the Italvega font on it. As some know, when Italvega moved operations out of Italy and to Japan, the name changed to Univega as did the font style, which I believe is called “Piccadilly”. I figured that in 977 or so, when the transition was happening, they still used the Italvega font style for their initial run of Univegas.

Heres a link to the 1978 catalog: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-J4t9-Kc6my...talog+WM15.jpg

I understand that this is NOT the bike you’re asking about, but thought I would mention it, just for further information if someone is researching sometime. My FLICKR account has photos of my tear down & refurb of this bike for those who might have an interest.

Your bike is gorgeous. The crown fork on mine has sloped crown which is chromed.
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O/K ,

I finally finished the paint on the 1775? Nuovo sport (serial # *12302 *)

Here she is in her new clothes

New (or refurbed)
Crank axle and cranks/ chainrings
Front and rear derailleurs (Suntour)
Perfect freewheel
KMC chain
1 1/8 x 27" tires
Nisi Toro Aluminum rims
Stem (no name forged aluminum)
Specialized riser bars ( they were very wide so I cut off 2 inches . Better now)
grips
SunRace friction shifters ( I really like these . they are cheap, look good and work well)
Cable and housing
Seat (from a donation)
SR seat post
Black metal flat pedals.

The only thing that I didn't get from the Bike Exchange parts bins was the paint. one can Rustoleum high performance yellow enamel, one can Rustoleunm clear enamel, and a can of Rustoleum light grey primer.



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nice City bike, run around build......like the thumb shifters...they are way underated
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Thanks so much for sharing all of these capnjonny!

Have enjoyed every one.

Methinks your workshop may be turning into a Torresini dealership.

Do the finished projects go back to the co-op to be placed on sale?

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Well,
I have been going through an "Italian" phase.

I just inherited a Torpado from Squirt Dad. Weighed it today at right about 21 lbs including seat, pedals and air in the tires. And it isn't even a "Super Light " which specs at under 19 lbs. It has almost the same original equipment as the Italvega and I am tempted to swap everything over .

But 21 pounds!!!

That deserves some praise. I am going to leave most of the original parts on it for now. Maybe swap out the Ofmega cranks for some Campi Bonneville's that I found during the bug out to our new mash location for the Bike Exchange.

All the bikes I work on go back to the Bike Exchange for sale.

Works for me !

I get to play with them and customize them and then they are gone and aren't cluttering up my Garage.
As it is there are 11 bikes there:

4 finished and waiting to go to our new location.
2 being worked on,
1, the Torpado just getting acquainted with ,
2 daily riders,
1 Burning Man Trek 800 antelope and
2 wall hangers that I want to ride but don't usually.

Oh, and their is an old pile hanging from the rafters and a Schwinn New World slowly rotting in the side yard.
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Thanks so much fo the response & report capnjonny!

wrt new addition - see you are staying with the Torresini theme.

we need to find you one of those stove enamelled metal signs for the door of your workshop "Torresini spoken here."

Is your co-op in the downtown area?

Saratoga - erstwhile home of Joan Fontaine.

Is Velomeister still going?

Happy Holidays!

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Did Toresini design the Torpado? That would be tre kool.

The resto work I have been doing goes on in my garage at home in Saratoga.

The Bike exchange is located in Mountain View Ca.
https://bikex.org/

If anyone is living in the Santa Clara Valley you should stop in to our new digs and check out the shop.

It is HUGE!!!

We are still setting things up but plan to host our first work day on Saturday Jan. 12.

If you have any old bike posters you would like to donate to decorate our walls bring them by.

I am still thinking of hanging a few bikes from the 20 ft ceiling like they so at the Smithsonian.

Also we usually have some restored bikes for sale. I currently have a Miyata 1200 , the ItalVega Nuovo Sport, and a custom touring bike ready to bring down when we get our show room set up.

We will even have a photography studio set up to take pictures of sale bikes and parts for display on E Bay.
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I never owned one but I understand Italavega were nice bikes for the price, just like the Univegas, and I sold lots of those.

One thing to keep in mind is that often when rebuilding a vintage bike is sometimes function is more important than period correctness or finding the exact parts that match the catalog. A major draw back to trying to make a period bike all Campagnolo Nuovo or Super Record aside from price, is you immediately limit your gearing options to a 42t in the front and 28 in the rear. This could be a problem in hilly country. I also understand back in the day a racer may swap out a CampI RD, I know this horrible to hear, for a Suntour because they shifted slightly smoother.
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Did Toresini design the Torpado? That would be tre kool.

The resto work I have been doing goes on in my garage at home in Saratoga.

The Bike exchange is located in Mountain View Ca.
https://bikex.org/

If anyone is living in the Santa Clara Valley you should stop in to our new digs and check out the shop.

It is HUGE!!!

We are still setting things up but plan to host our first work day on Saturday Jan. 12.

If you have any old bike posters you would like to donate to decorate our walls bring them by.

I am still thinking of hanging a few bikes from the 20 ft ceiling like they so at the Smithsonian.

Also we usually have some restored bikes for sale. I currently have a Miyata 1200 , the ItalVega Nuovo Sport, and a custom touring bike ready to bring down when we get our show room set up.

We will even have a photography studio set up to take pictures of sale bikes and parts for display on E Bay.
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Torresini is the company/entity behind Torpado, ItalVega and some other contract badges.

The Torpado name is an acronym/compound word formed of TORresini & PADOva, the firm's location.

i.e.- there is no & never was a "Sig. Torpado"

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Just finished the blue Nuovo Record . I was originally going to build it stock with the the Universal brakes and levers and period correct bars but- - - - .

Instead here is the next in my Hipster series:
Frame - ItalVega Tre tubi Nuovo Record 63 cm
Bottom bracket - Stronglight competition
Cranks - Stronglight 52 - 44
Freewheel - Shimano 7 speed hyperglide 14-28
Pedals - Lyotard Chrome
Wheels - Rigida 700 c with presta valves
Hubs - Shimano
Tires - Continental Gator skins
Shifters - Suntour power shifters
Front derailleur - Suntour Blue line
Rear derailleur - Suntour Blue line
Bars - Wing Profile
Levers - Crane creek
Seat post - SR
Saddle Stella Italia

Bike built up from bare frame.
Frame sand blasted then painted with Rustoleum acrylic Chinese Red lacquer with clear top coat over paint and chrome.

Weight minus chain 23.75 lbs. Tomorrow I am taking it in to the Bike Exchange for our Grand Opening. Then it will be sold to some lucky Guy who wants a bit of style in his vintage ride.

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