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gitanesearch 09-29-19 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by verktyg (Post 21142518)
I said above: "It's a lower end 1974-76 Gitane". That's the best info that I can provide. Anything else would be a complete guess.

Gitane made too many different models with those feature, especially for the French/European market.

verktyg :50:

How do you know that? Or you just guessing?

gitanesearch 09-29-19 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by verktyg (Post 21142518)
I said above: "It's a lower end 1974-76 Gitane". That's the best info that I can provide. Anything else would be a complete guess.

Gitane made too many different models with those feature, especially for the French/European market.

verktyg :50:

What's a "seat stay?" You mean the seat post clamp? You can't even see it in the photo.

Mr. 66 09-29-19 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by gitanesearch (Post 21143100)
What's a "seat stay?" You mean the seat post clamp? You can't even see it in the photo.

lol, rear triangle down tubes.

gitanesearch 09-29-19 01:10 PM

Well it wasn't lower end, I can tell you that... I'm not sure how you can tell 2mm difference in that photo... I've seen many of the TDF online and they have rubber on the shifter levers... this one had all metal **** levers and quality components... maybe they built it up, it was said to be a racing bike. Was probably bought slightly used. It was a VERY nice bike and even if I don't know what a "seat stay" is I know enough about bikes to know a nice bike.

Also on the TDF that I've seen the decal on the seat post tube is down lower, the one in my picture is up higher... I'll try to find more pics of it maybe that will help...

TenGrainBread 09-29-19 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by gitanesearch (Post 21143192)
Well it wasn't lower end, I can tell you that... I'm not sure how you can tell 2mm difference in that photo... I've seen many of the TDF online and they have rubber on the shifter levers... this one had all metal **** levers and quality components... maybe they built it up, it was said to be a racing bike. Was probably bought slightly used. It was a VERY nice bike and even if I don't know what a "seat stay" is I know enough about bikes to know a nice bike.

Also on the TDF that I've seen the decal on the seat post tube is down lower, the one in my picture is up higher... I'll try to find more pics of it maybe that will help...

What components were on it?

Every ten speed sold in the 70s was called a "racing bike" regardless of quality. That was the basis of the bike boom.

gitanesearch 09-29-19 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by TenGrainBread (Post 21143251)
What components were on it?

Every ten speed sold in the 70s was called a "racing bike" regardless of quality. That was the basis of the bike boom.

Ok, well it was a nice bike and I've actually never seen another Gitane in person, so it's rare too. I know a lot about bikes, just not road bikes, and this Gitane was a nice bike with quality components, brakes, and rims. Even the brake pads were high end, I remember that... Have no idea what components but they were nicer than a lot of TDF I've seen online in trying to ID this bike... I notice that some TDF have rubber on the shift lever that look low end, our Gitane had components that look like the higher end 10 speeds in their catalogs. But I really can't say since it was stolen in 1987. I'll have to find more pictures of it. I don't think Greg Lemond rode it, it wasn't that level, it was more like local amateur racer level. I rode it when I was about 13-14 and I could go across town in no time on that bike. Special bike. It may just have been THAT bike that was special... I've had bikes like that where the model isn't special but the bike itself is for some reason.

gitanesearch 09-29-19 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by TenGrainBread (Post 21143251)
What components were on it?

Every ten speed sold in the 70s was called a "racing bike" regardless of quality. That was the basis of the bike boom.

What's the "Interclub"? Is that above or lower than the TDF? I see someone mention it here and it looks like our bike except that ours wasn't such bright colors, but you can see from my original photo that the the blue of our G was darker than most TDF that you see online.

gitaneusa.com :: View topic - Jojon 1975 Interclub or ?

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1df9ab4a5a.png

gitanesearch 09-29-19 02:35 PM

See this TDF, ours was better than this one... see the rubber on the shift levers and the metal body of the brake levers? Ours had better components and was blue, but a darker blue, same font on the decal but not quite the same. The neck on ours was different/better, as was the seat. I kind of remember that the front brake was a center pull because it was easy to get disengage the front brakes and get the front wheel off, am I wrong about that? Did Gitanes have front center pull brakes? It was a long time ago so I could be wrong about everything, this is just what I remember... I have to get a new slide scanner to get the better photos I have of it.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ece0ca9c3e.jpg

gitanesearch 09-29-19 02:45 PM

See this one? Ours had center pull brakes on the front like this one... ours had higher end rims and tires... ours didn't have gold anodized metal parts... ours was quite stiff and bumpy and even uncomfortable on the wrong roads... I don't remember the color of the brake lever bodies on ours but the handle bars were wrapped nicely... ours didn't have rubber on the shift levers... it had a real nice shift action and pretty nice cranks and foot straps. I don't remember vertical lines in the seat post... I remember the two aluminum frames of the seat/saddle stuck out a little bit, enough to put straps on it or a bag there... I could be wrong about any of this but it's how I remember it... it was a long time ago. It was very fast and had a spring to it when rode hard. I have to get a new slide scanner to try to get more pics of it... I appreciate everyone's help.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/37347002@N05/38909324820

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f8b514cb55.png

gitanesearch 09-29-19 02:57 PM

See how the TDF has rubber on the shift lever? Ours didn't have rubber on the shift levers, and looked more like the Olympic (or the 3rd bike: Tour de L'Avenir) in this catalog image. I can see the frame of the seat on that Olympic like I remember, but I'm just guessing... been a long time.

One of these in the catalog translates as "suede" seat, which is what we had, a black suede seat/saddle, not sure if it's this catalog that does or not... (not translating it again.)

http://www.gitaneusa.com/images/catalog/1974_pg1.jpg

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...90abe381c4.jpg

Happy Feet 09-29-19 03:50 PM

What's the motivation behind the urgent need to identify a bike you haven't had for like.. 32 years?
Did you see a listing on Craigslist and wonder if it's yours?

noobinsf 09-29-19 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by gitanesearch (Post 21143192)
Well it wasn't lower end, I can tell you that... I'm not sure how you can tell 2mm difference in that photo... I've seen many of the TDF online and they have rubber on the shifter levers... this one had all metal **** levers and quality components... maybe they built it up, it was said to be a racing bike. Was probably bought slightly used. It was a VERY nice bike and even if I don't know what a "seat stay" is I know enough about bikes to know a nice bike.

Also on the TDF that I've seen the decal on the seat post tube is down lower, the one in my picture is up higher... I'll try to find more pics of it maybe that will help...

More pics will be essential if you want a positive ID, since the various models look so similar, and components often were substituted when supply levels changed. Chas (Verktyg) is one of the most knowledgeable folks on this forum with respect to French bikes of that era, but again, more pics will be needed for any confidence in an ID.

gitanesearch 09-29-19 09:36 PM

Just getting around to it, no reason, just because I can.

gitanesearch 09-29-19 09:37 PM

And thanks to everyone who's responded, much appreciated.

76SLT 09-29-19 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by gitanesearch (Post 21143777)
Just getting around to it, no reason, just because I can.

I get it. I'm doing the same thing, trying to figure out what model Gitane I got for my 8th grade graduation present in 1973. I have one photo of it, and it's not grea . I remember it had Simplex derailleurs and Mafac brakes because I still have the little tool kit that came with it. I don't remember anything more about it. It was replaced in 1979 by a 78 Schwinn Superior, which I still have. I loved that bike and would love to replace it but don't know the model.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7b0ffdd310.jpg

gitanesearch 09-29-19 10:07 PM

Nice pic and bike... those were the days, people had more class back then. I totally restored my childhood BMX bike and now it's one of the nicest on the planet and worth upwards of $2000 (two thousand dollars) and I saw some old slides with the Gitane and the whole family loved that bike, and I've never actually seen another Gitane, but I guess nobody has 10 speeds anymore, however... but I just got the wild idea to try to ID it at least.



Originally Posted by 76SLT (Post 21143788)
I get it. I'm doing the same thing, trying to figure out what model Gitane I got for my 8th grade graduation present in 1973. I have one photo of it, and it's not grea . I remember it had Simplex derailleurs and Mafac brakes because I still have the little tool kit that came with it. I don't remember anything more about it. It was replaced in 1979 by a 78 Schwinn Superior, which I still have. I loved that bike and would love to replace it but don't know the model.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7b0ffdd310.jpg


gitanesearch 09-29-19 10:10 PM


Originally Posted by gitanesearch (Post 21143795)
Nice pic and bike... those were the days, people had more class back then. I totally restored my childhood BMX bike and now it's one of the nicest on the planet and worth upwards of $2000 (two thousand dollars) and I saw some old slides with the Gitane and the whole family loved that bike, and I've never actually seen another Gitane, but I guess nobody has 10 speeds anymore, however... but I just got the wild idea to try to ID it at least.

I think with yours you can see the sprocket and the decals... and you know the year... they have all the catalogs online I think... then you can see the checkered seat cover and the neck... and you can see the forks and "seat stays" have no chrome on them... you have most of it I think... my guess is that it wouldn't be too expensive for an 8th grader, but maybe your parents were well off... the Gitane was my dad's so I have no idea what he paid for it except from the stories he's said about it... actually I remembered them more than him and had to remind him and prove it with a photo of it... he was off by over 8 years in his memory.

gitanesearch 09-29-19 10:13 PM


Originally Posted by 76SLT (Post 21143788)
I get it. I'm doing the same thing, trying to figure out what model Gitane I got for my 8th grade graduation present in 1973. I have one photo of it, and it's not grea . I remember it had Simplex derailleurs and Mafac brakes because I still have the little tool kit that came with it. I don't remember anything more about it. It was replaced in 1979 by a 78 Schwinn Superior, which I still have. I loved that bike and would love to replace it but don't know the model.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7b0ffdd310.jpg

And I see you are in IL, we got ours in Springfield, IL, maybe it's an Illinois thing?

verktyg 09-30-19 02:23 AM

1973 Gitane Gran Sport
 

Originally Posted by 76SLT (Post 21143788)
I get it. I'm doing the same thing, trying to figure out what model Gitane I got for my 8th grade graduation present in 1973. I have one photo of it, and it's not great . I remember it had Simplex derailleurs and Mafac brakes because I still have the little tool kit that came with it. I don't remember anything more about it. It was replaced in 1979 by a 78 Schwinn Superior, which I still have. I loved that bike and would love to replace it but don't know the model.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7b0ffdd310.jpg

Welcome,

Your bike appears to be Gitane Gran Sport Deluxe model. They came with quick release hubs. Back then QR hubs were the sign of a "quality" bike.

Gitane offered a less expensive model with low flange, nutted hubs and a few other "economy" components.

The Gran Sport Deluxe was a classic example of better quality entry level bike boom model in the ± $100 price range.

During the bike boom fad of the early 70's the buzz word was "10 Speed Racing Bike". Any bike with derailleurs and drop handle bars fell into that category.

We sold Gitanes at the 2 shops that I worked at during the bike boom. Cosmetics aside, the Gitane Gran Sports had a leg up on most of the other European bikes in that price range.

My first Gitane was a 1972 Gitane Gran Sport Deluxe. It looked like this one:

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...063002098f.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4135e6e652.jpg

I had several others that I built up from bare frames to use as commuters/beaters/trainers.

Gran Sports come up on eBay fairly frequently but they were not as popular as Peugeot UO-8 bikes. Sellers usually don't have a clue about the bikes they're listing and over inflate the features and prices!

verktyg :50:

76SLT 09-30-19 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by verktyg (Post 21143891)
Welcome,

Your bike appears to be Gitane Gran Sport Deluxe model. They came with quick release hubs. Back then QR hubs were the sign of a "quality" bike.

Gitane offered a less expensive model with low flange, nutted hubs and a few other "economy" components.

The Gran Sport Deluxe was a classic example of better quality entry level bike boom model in the ± $100 price range.

During the bike boom fad of the early 70's the buzz word was "10 Speed Racing Bike". Any bike with derailleurs and drop handle bars fell into that category.

We sold Gitanes at the 2 shops that I worked at during the bike boom. Cosmetics aside, the Gitane Gran Sports had a leg up on most of the other European bikes in that price range.

My first Gitane was a 1972 Gitane Gran Sport Deluxe. It looked like this one:

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...063002098f.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4135e6e652.jpg

I had several others that I built up from bare frames to use as commuters/beaters/trainers.

Gran Sports come up on eBay fairly frequently but they were not as popular as Peugeot UO-8 bikes. Sellers usually don't have a clue about the bikes they're listing and over inflate the features and prices!

verktyg :50:

Thank you for that very helpful info. I now have something to go by.

LucasHartong 12-11-19 01:40 PM

1975 Champion du Monde. Not the most beautiful, but she rides great! Just restored her back to life. Here some pics taken during the process. All I had to do was cleaning, greasing and some new small parts here and there.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...db27d3c507.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...0c0ec057e0.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c4f65a9f99.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...af83b34449.jpg

Pcampeau 12-12-19 12:04 AM


Originally Posted by 76SLT (Post 21143788)
I get it. I'm doing the same thing, trying to figure out what model Gitane I got for my 8th grade graduation present in 1973. I have one photo of it, and it's not grea . I remember it had Simplex derailleurs and Mafac brakes because I still have the little tool kit that came with it. I don't remember anything more about it. It was replaced in 1979 by a 78 Schwinn Superior, which I still have. I loved that bike and would love to replace it but don't know the model.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7b0ffdd310.jpg

This looks to me to be the same model as the bike in your photo. It came through my shop a few years ago. I know longer have it but I fondly remember enjoying it while it was around. Hopefully this photo will give you a good frame of reference if you decide to find a replacement.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...6e233d9dc.jpeg


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