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Old 12-26-18, 02:55 AM
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peugeot pfn10 vitus 172

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i'm sure this question has been asked so many times but i really need your help. Got this early 80 peugeot pfn10 and i'm planning to convert it to a fixie if possible with the same crankset. Is it possible? If yes what wheels can i get ?
If i can't convert it to a fixie i still wanna change the rims.
By the way it's a french version peugeot

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Originally Posted by mediclux View Post
hi guys,
i'm sure this question has been asked so many times but i really need your help. Got this early 80 peugeot pfn10 and i'm planning to convert it to a fixie if possible with the same crankset. Is it possible? If yes what wheels can i get ?
If i can't convert it to a fixie i still wanna change the rims.
By the way it's a french version peugeot

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Sure, you can convert it. The easiest way is to just use the existing rear cluster, and pick which gear you want to stay in, then just shorten the chain to fit that gear. There's no reason to change out the wheelset, or the crankset. It's just added cost for no reason.
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Old 12-26-18, 05:13 AM
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actually i wanted to remove the rear cluster so the bike becomes a little lighter.
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actually i wanted to remove the rear cluster so the bike becomes a little lighter.
Okay, it would look a lot cleaner with a single cog in the back, and only one chainring up front. I'd do what I suggested, first, to find what rear cog size you want to go with the large front chainring. Then, you can take off the front small chainring, and buy a new wheel with the correct cog size you picked.
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ok i see thank you
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For a fixie you will want the larger 1/8" chain for added braking strength.

It has been done many times and it is not the ideal application but you can use a 3/32" chain and the existing chainring. Never done it myself but others may chime in on their experience.
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Old 12-26-18, 06:19 AM
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understood but my spacing in the back is 130 mm if i'm not mistaken so buying a fixie wheel of 120 mm won't do it
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The PFN 10 should be 126 in the rear but someone could have spread it. You could get a 120 flip flop wheel and simple run a longer axle with spacers to get the desired length.
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Pics? Year?

I also question why you want to "change the rims". Perhaps you mean the entire wheels.

Have you ridden it much in its original geared form? FWIW, I have a PFN10 with VItus 181 and it is a superb road bike.
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i will post pics . to be honest it looks like new. I'm from Luxembourg and bought it recently from an old guy who completely restored it.
If i would change it to fixie, i would keep all the parts and if i wanna go back i still have a chance. I think the year is 1981.
I don't like the steel rims don't much because i use the bike as a commuter and it doesn't brake very well.
But you are right it's a really great bike to ride. love it so far.
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by the way do you know the length of the spokes because i got one loose one
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I don't like the steel rims don't much because i use the bike as a commuter and it doesn't brake very well.
But you are right it's a really great bike to ride. love it so far.
Steel rims on an '81 PFN10? The catalogs here
US version
French version
list it as having aluminum alloy.
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ok my bad. thanks for the info
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That bike is sweet and is likely 126 in the rear unless someone has spread it to 130. Please don't throw away the parts or drew the frame. Someone someday might want to convert it back to the original state. There is a value to the parts especially the derailleur set.

This is an easy, peasy single speed conversion.

One thing to keep in mind is that the bottom bracket, headset and stem and bar are not standard BSC so parts are a bit harder to find. All of those parts are available but you likely won't find them at your local LBS. I'd overhaul the BB and headset both of which are quite good quality to keep them running in tip top shape. I'd also use new top quality ball bearings (grade 25, check out wheels manufacturing BBs).
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actually all the parts have been overhauled and boy it rides so smooth
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actually all the parts have been overhauled and boy it rides so smooth
Nice bike. Smooth, yeah!. Sure you want to make it fixie or single-speed now??
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i think i leave it as it is but i definetly need to replace some spokes but i don't know the length.
Also i think i'll install some clipless pedals and might change the brakes because they are not very good in wet weather. and i have a brooks saddle b17 standard but i'm not sure if it will be comfortable on this type of bike

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i think i leave it as it is but i definetly need to replace some spokes but i don't know the length.
Also i think i'll install some clipless pedals and might change the brakes because they are not very good in wet weather. and i have a brooks saddle b17 standard but i'm not sure if it will be comfortable on this type of bike
About the brakes, consider replacing the pads with red Koolstop. It will stop just fine. No need to replace the entire calipers. (Keep the original calipers even if you do replace them.) Consider replacing the cables and housing if they are old or have much friction. New housing such as from Jagwire has a Teflon liner which really makes them smooth, especially with new stainless steel cables.

About the spokes, are they broken? If so you will need to remove them anyway, so you can lay the two pieces together and measure the length. Put a caliper on the thickness too, ends and middle, as they may not be straight-gauge. Gauge isn't too important but the wheel may have better longevity with spokes that all have the same elastic properties. If they are just loose and the nipples aren't frozen to the shafts, just tension them and true the wheel well. Older wheels with unknown history often need some tweaking. Of course if you have to replace a Drive-Side spoke on the rear you'll have to remove the FW. If you still need to find the length, look up some online spoke calculators such as spokalc (I think that's how it is spelled). Then double-check the figures. And ask here for more advice. Picking the spoke length can be tricky.
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i think i leave it as it is but i definetly need to replace some spokes but i don't know the length.
Also i think i'll install some clipless pedals and might change the brakes because they are not very good in wet weather. and i have a brooks saddle b17 standard but i'm not sure if it will be comfortable on this type of bike
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About the brakes, consider replacing the pads with red Koolstop. It will stop just fine. No need to replace the entire calipers. (Keep the original calipers even if you do replace them.) Consider replacing the cables and housing if they are old or have much friction. New housing such as from Jagwire has a Teflon liner which really makes them smooth, especially with new stainless steel cables.

About the spokes, are they broken? If so you will need to remove them anyway, so you can lay the two pieces together and measure the length. Put a caliper on the thickness too, ends and middle, as they may not be straight-gauge. Gauge isn't too important but the wheel may have better longevity with spokes that all have the same elastic properties. If they are just loose and the nipples aren't frozen to the shafts, just tension them and true the wheel well. Older wheels with unknown history often need some tweaking. Of course if you have to replace a Drive-Side spoke on the rear you'll have to remove the FW. If you still need to find the length, look up some online spoke calculators such as spokalc (I think that's how it is spelled). Then double-check the figures. And ask here for more advice. Picking the spoke length can be tricky.
+ 1 on all of this advice. Those brakes can be made to work very, very well. Swapping out for clipless is a good idea. No big deal replacing spokes as Jim suggests. Replacement wheels are not crazy expensive either. Velomine sells some good ones at very reasonable prices.

Sun CR18 Road Bike Sealed Bearing 700c Wheelset 126mm Rear [0072774736515] - $129.00 Velomine.com : Worldwide Bicycle Shop, fixed gear track bike wheelsets campagnolo super record vintage bike

At $129 a pair, I may have to buy a set! The CR 18s are strong rims and they would look good on a cannondale I am restoring.

To the OP: your bike is beautiful and it's a real classic. BIkes with 3 main tubes made of higher quality steel (like the Vitus 172 double butted tubing your bike has) and hi tensile steel fork and stays with forged drop outs was a classic way to build a high quality bike at a reasonable price point.
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thank you so much for your help and advice.
I can't believe i only paid 130 euros for it. A real jewel.
anyway thank so much
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