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Old 01-02-19, 07:48 PM
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First read the title and thought...Campy? 60’s Batman, Elvira and Rocky Horror..... then I realized I should be thinking about either a triple or a compact. 52t just doesn’t cut it anymore. I have never been a grinder. Anyone know if I can downsize my Superbe Prop lol?

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First read the title and thought...Campy? 60’s Batman, Elvira and Rocky Horror..... then I realized I should be thinking about either a triple or a compact. 52t just doesn’t cut it anymore. I have never been a grinder. Anyone know if I can downsize my Superbe Prop lol?

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If you have a 144 BCD Superbe Pro crankset, I think the smallest size you can go is a 41T chainring- but those are impossible to find- but 42s are out there.

Finding a 48 or 50 big ring and a 42 little ring for a 144 BCD crankdset shouldn’t be too difficult.
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If you have a 144 BCD Superbe Pro crankset, I think the smallest size you can go is a 41T chainring- but those are impossible to find- but 42s are out there.
And there are 42T 144 BCD triplizers.
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And there are 42T 144 BCD triplizers.
Here is my "tripilized" Trek 700. 53-42-30 chainrings. Long cage on the SR RD. Victory triple FD. Pic is showing 13-23 freewheel, but now has 13-28, could go >28t with more chain length.



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And there are 42T 144 BCD triplizers.
They seem to have dried up. I like the T/A version best, and the Red Clover copies. Have you seen any for sale lately?
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They seem to have dried up. I like the T/A version best, and the Red Clover copies. Have you seen any for sale lately?
As far as I know you can still get the Red Clover version.

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Long cage on the SR RD.
Thanks! I've been wondering how that looks. I think the Soma long cage looks almost like it belongs on a Nuovo Record RD, but I've been thinking about moving my triplizer and long cage from my De Rosa to my Gios and the Gios has an SR.
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As far as I know you can still get the Red Clover version.

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Shows as "Unavilable", so I can't add to "cart". I have never seen anyone else sell a copy. I will email them.
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Shows as "Unavilable", so I can't add to "cart". I have never seen anyone else sell a copy. I will email them.
That's very odd. It let me add one to my cart just now. @jonwvara , any idea what's going on?
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Shows as "Unavilable", so I can't add to "cart". I have never seen anyone else sell a copy. I will email them.
Look up Willow and Interloc on ebay and the web.
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That's very odd. It let me add one to my cart just now. @jonwvara , any idea what's going on?
Holy mackerel, this is news to me. I've got lots of triplizers on hand, for both Stronglight 122 and Campagnolo 144. I'll see if I can figure out what's going on. I'm evidently a lot better at bike maintenance than at web site maintenance.

If anyone needs a chainring before get the web site problem dealt with (assuming that there is a problem), send an email to me at [email protected] and we'll work around the web site.

Edit: I just went to the site and was able to add a 144 triplizer to a shopping cart and go to checkout as normally. Reynolds 531, want to try it again? Maybe there's some sort of problem on your end?
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That's very odd. It let me add one to my cart just now. @jonwvara , any idea what's going on?
What did you find, Andy--did the site work for you? I just tried it (see edit to previous post), and it seemed to be working normally.
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I fairly recently ordered a Red Clover triplizer. I initially had problems ordering because my adblocker was somehow blocking the system, so you might look at that. I installed the triplizer on my '79 Gemini and it works very well. The big ring is just a 47, so the Nuovo Record rear derailleur has enough chain wrap for all combinations. This gives me the gear range I want, but there is a lot of redundancy - the entire middle ring, actually.








I also wanted to try drilling and tapping the Campagnolo crank spider to directly bolt on a 74mm bcd ring. It took me a year or two to find the mounting bolts. I finally tried this recently on my Crescent Pepita and it works great.





I would like to do this conversion on a couple of other 70s Campagnolo bikes, but now I find the biggest challenge is getting the right spindles. The Campagnolo X3 spindles are fairly rare and/or expensive, and work only with thin cups. Stronglight triple spindles are more reasonable and easier to find, but also won't work with thick Campagnolo cups, and still require some searching.

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I fairly recently ordered a Red Clover triplizer. I initially had problems ordering because my adblocker was somehow blocking the system, so you might look at that. I installed the triplizer on my '79 Gemini and it works very well. The big ring is just a 47, so the Nuovo Record rear derailleur has enough chain wrap for all combinations. This gives me the gear range I want, but there is a lot of redundancy - the entire middle ring, actually.








I also wanted to try drilling and tapping the Campagnolo crank spider to directly bolt on a 74mm bcd ring. It took me a year or two to find the mounting bolts. I finally tried this recently on my Crescent Pepita and it works great.





I would like to do this conversion on a couple of other 70s Campagnolo bikes, but now I find the biggest challenge is getting the right spindles. The Campagnolo X3 spindles are fairly rare and/or expensive, and work only with thin cups. Stronglight triple spindles are more reasonable and easier to find, but also won't work with thick Campagnolo cups, and still require some searching.
If you don't mind a non-puristical--indeed, perhaps heretical--solution, modern JIS Shimano cartridge bottom brackets work very well with triplized Campy cranks. The modern JIS taper is very close to the that of the old Campagnolo spindles. Most of the triples that I've built up have worked well with a 115mm cartridge bb. It's usually easy enough to add a mm or so of spacer to the drive side if the chainline needs to be tweaked slightly.
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Edit: I just went to the site and was able to add a 144 triplizer to a shopping cart and go to checkout as normally. Reynolds 531, want to try it again? Maybe there's some sort of problem on your end?
I opened in a new browser window, so I bought one. Thanks!!

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If you don't mind a non-puristical--indeed, perhaps heretical--solution, modern JIS Shimano cartridge bottom brackets work very well with triplized Campy cranks. The modern JIS taper is very close to the that of the old Campagnolo spindles. Most of the triples that I've built up have worked well with a 115mm cartridge bb. It's usually easy enough to add a mm or so of spacer to the drive side if the chainline needs to be tweaked slightly.

I should have mentioned that most of my bikes (even the Campagnolo equipped ones) are French threaded, which limits my options for modern replacements. The information on your website is very helpful, and the VO bb would be a good option if I could stand the sight of those modern cups! Compass offers a very nice but expensive SKF.
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I opened in a new browser window, so I bought one. Thanks!!

Sweet! I'll send it off first thing tomorrow.
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As another aside, Bob Freeman does Campy conversions with custom made 30 + 31t inner rings with spindles. Not cheap but well done.
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What did you find, Andy--did the site work for you? I just tried it (see edit to previous post), and it seemed to be working normally.
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Yes. It looks fine to me. I've already got the triplizer I needed from you (pictured on my De Rosa on the first page of this thread) so I didn't go through to purchase, but it looks like it would have let me.
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I should have mentioned that most of my bikes (even the Campagnolo equipped ones) are French threaded, which limits my options for modern replacements. The information on your website is very helpful, and the VO bb would be a good option if I could stand the sight of those modern cups! Compass offers a very nice but expensive SKF.
I have a French-threaded VO cartridge on my PX-10, in conjunction with a triplized Stronglight 93. It works very well. I just avoid looking at the cups. It's been a few years since I installed it, but I'm pretty sure it's the 122mm version with a 1mm spacer under the drive-side cup.
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Yes. It looks fine to me. I've already got the triplizer I needed from you (pictured on my De Rosa on the first page of this thread) so I didn't go through to purchase, but it looks like it would have let me.
Yes, my experience as well. I think it was an ad-blocker problem.
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