Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Classic & Vintage
Reload this Page >

Bike Commuting Trend Showing Decline - USA Today

Notices
Classic & Vintage This forum is to discuss the many aspects of classic and vintage bicycles, including musclebikes, lightweights, middleweights, hi-wheelers, bone-shakers, safety bikes and much more.

Bike Commuting Trend Showing Decline - USA Today

Old 01-02-19, 09:17 AM
  #1  
oddjob2
Still learning
Thread Starter
 
oddjob2's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: North of Canada, Adirondacks
Posts: 11,619

Bikes: Still a garage full

Mentioned: 92 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 843 Post(s)
Liked 53 Times in 34 Posts
Bike Commuting Trend Showing Decline - USA Today

Sad! Sending you over to original post, to avoid double posts.

A Falloff in Bike Commuting? - USA Today
oddjob2 is offline  
Old 01-02-19, 01:01 PM
  #2  
noglider 
aka Tom Reingold
 
noglider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: High Falls, NY, USA
Posts: 39,937

Bikes: 1962 Rudge Sports, 1971 Raleigh Super Course, 1971 Raleigh Pro Track, 1974 Raleigh International, 1975 Viscount Fixie, 1982 McLean, 1996 Lemond (Ti), 2002 Burley Zydeco tandem

Mentioned: 485 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6883 Post(s)
Liked 1,519 Times in 960 Posts
I'll believe there's a decline when I see it. I'm not seeing it. Of course, my corner of the world is not representative. Or maybe it's a bit cutting edge. I don't know.
__________________
Tom Reingold, tom@noglider.com
New York City and High Falls, NY
Blogs: The Experienced Cyclist; noglider's ride blog

When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments. Elizabeth West, US author

Please email me rather than PM'ing me. Thanks.
noglider is offline  
Old 01-02-19, 01:02 PM
  #3  
Narhay
Senior Member
 
Narhay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada
Posts: 3,585
Mentioned: 110 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 895 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 403 Times in 245 Posts
Vancouver bike commuting was feasible. Toronto bike commuting is a blood sport.
Narhay is online now  
Old 01-02-19, 01:09 PM
  #4  
Velo Mule
Senior Member
 
Velo Mule's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 1,171

Bikes: Trek 800 x 2, Schwinn Heavy Duti, Electra Cantilever, Schwinn Traveler, Schwinn Le Tour Luxe, Schwinn World, Schwinn Continental

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 384 Post(s)
Liked 294 Times in 229 Posts
I am hoping that is just a one year thing and the trend continues as more people commute by bike, even occasionally.
Velo Mule is offline  
Old 01-02-19, 01:12 PM
  #5  
Fahrenheit531 
Lover of Vintage Steel
 
Fahrenheit531's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 3,852

Bikes: Schwinn Volare ('78); Raleigh Competition GS ('79)

Mentioned: 28 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 682 Post(s)
Liked 408 Times in 221 Posts
I'll keep doing my part to prop up the stats. Even if they stop keeping stats.
__________________
A race bike in any era is a highly personal choice that at its "best" balances the requirements of fit, weight, handling, durability and cost tempered by the willingness to toss it and oneself down the pavement at considerable speed. ~Bandera
Fahrenheit531 is offline  
Old 01-02-19, 01:16 PM
  #6  
Cynikal 
Team Beer
 
Cynikal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Sacramento CA
Posts: 6,187

Bikes: Too Many

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 70 Post(s)
Liked 74 Times in 50 Posts
The only way it will change is if gas becomes more expensive. It's hard to justify for most people if they own the car and are paying insurance to not use it. Additionally, urban centers have been increasing ridership due to many reasons but this study doesn't look at ridership with that much detail.

Edit: Another reason is that the housing costs are pushing people farther out causing the need to drive and removing the option for bike commuting.
__________________
I'm not one for fawning over bicycles, but I do believe that our bikes communicate with us, and what this bike is saying is, "You're an idiot." BikeSnobNYC

Last edited by Cynikal; 01-02-19 at 01:17 PM. Reason: more content
Cynikal is offline  
Old 01-02-19, 01:39 PM
  #7  
OldsCOOL
Senior Member
 
OldsCOOL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: northern michigan
Posts: 13,240

Bikes: '77 Colnago Super, '76 Fuji The Finest, '88 Cannondale Criterium, '86 Trek 760, '87 Miyata 712

Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 644 Post(s)
Liked 495 Times in 270 Posts
Not where I live. DUI fuels the commonality of bicycle commuting here. Not to mention legalization of marijuana which will predictably increase losses of driving privileges.
OldsCOOL is offline  
Old 01-02-19, 02:49 PM
  #8  
Andy_K 
Senior Member
 
Andy_K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Beaverton, OR
Posts: 13,134

Bikes: Yes

Mentioned: 378 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2256 Post(s)
Liked 921 Times in 470 Posts
Originally Posted by OldsCOOL View Post
Not where I live. DUI fuels the commonality of bicycle commuting here. Not to mention legalization of marijuana which will predictably increase losses of driving privileges.
One of my favorite new bike names in recent years is the latest entry in the long established Kona Dew line, the Dew-E. I'm not sure I'd appreciate the joke if that were the reason I was biking to work though.
__________________
My Bikes
Andy_K is online now  
Old 01-02-19, 02:51 PM
  #9  
52telecaster
ambulatory senior
 
52telecaster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Peoria Il
Posts: 3,393

Bikes: Bob Jackson World Tour, Falcon and lots of other bikes.

Mentioned: 41 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1054 Post(s)
Liked 440 Times in 257 Posts
Still commuting here in the heartland.
52telecaster is offline  
Old 01-02-19, 03:04 PM
  #10  
OldsCOOL
Senior Member
 
OldsCOOL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: northern michigan
Posts: 13,240

Bikes: '77 Colnago Super, '76 Fuji The Finest, '88 Cannondale Criterium, '86 Trek 760, '87 Miyata 712

Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 644 Post(s)
Liked 495 Times in 270 Posts
Originally Posted by Andy_K View Post
One of my favorite new bike names in recent years is the latest entry in the long established Kona Dew line, the Dew-E. I'm not sure I'd appreciate the joke if that were the reason I was biking to work though.
I saw a lone MTB chained out front of a grocery store and I knew it had to be an employee there (small town stuff). Loads of respect to those working from the bottom up in rebuilding their lives.
OldsCOOL is offline  
Old 01-02-19, 03:30 PM
  #11  
SamSpade1941 
Senior Member
 
SamSpade1941's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 843
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 486 Post(s)
Liked 55 Times in 48 Posts
Bike commuting certainly is more common in some areas than others , but a lot of the United States drives because its the only practical way to get from A to B .

Im a lifelong Oklahoman who has traveled and lived outside the state off and on based solely on my employment. Most places that Ive been to save the west coast and the PNW (where I currently live ) the east coast and maybe Iowa . Cyclists are more the outlier . I recently read the numbers specifically for Oregon and if i recall correctly only about 2% of the population incorporates cycling into their transition needs . Thats 2% of a little over 4 million people , and this is a state that goes out of its way to create bike paths, lanes, green ways etc.

when i lived and worked around OKC , the only places I ever saw bike racks were usually in front of bike stores . There are very few businesses that have racks for customers or employees , and OKC has comparatively speaking less biking infrastructure than other more friendly metros like Minneapolis or Portland which are population dense and not spread out to the degree of OKC for instance which is huge geographically. Couple a lack of infrastructure with a large geographic metro area and youre not going to have tons cyclists moving about to work .

I love where I currently live because its viable for me to bike commute and I do so except when it rains . But having said that even on nice days I rarely encounter more than maybe 10 or so other cyclists going to or from work . Most of the time I have the road mostly to myself and Salem has a real traffic problem for such a small city . They also removed car lanes and replaced them with bike lanes in the down town grid which has not helped traffic and has not spurred more people to ride their bikes . Of
course your mileage may vary



SamSpade1941 is offline  
Old 01-02-19, 03:39 PM
  #12  
USAZorro
Seor Member
 
USAZorro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Hardy, VA
Posts: 16,929

Bikes: Mostly English - predominantly Raleighs

Mentioned: 61 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1035 Post(s)
Liked 303 Times in 213 Posts
Would be a tough sell to get my wife to permit me to install a bike lane through the living room (been working from my home office for over 10 years).
__________________
In search of what to search for.
USAZorro is offline  
Old 01-02-19, 03:57 PM
  #13  
gugie 
Dilberteur at large
 
gugie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 9,215

Bikes: It's complicated.

Mentioned: 1012 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3273 Post(s)
Liked 1,596 Times in 806 Posts
@OldsCOOL, your post reminded me of my LBS days. Young guy walks into the shop, sez "I need a bike". Takes about 5 minutes selecting one of our less expensive models, pays cash, rides out.

Yep, another DUI sale. I'm sure most anyone that's done time selling bikes will relate.
__________________
If someone tells you that you have enough bicycles and you don't need any more, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
gugie is offline  
Old 01-02-19, 04:04 PM
  #14  
Chombi1 
Senior Member
 
Chombi1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 3,409
Mentioned: 94 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1207 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 238 Times in 177 Posts
The many young Fixie/Retro cyclists from the last boom got older and got lazy.....
They all ride those rental electric scooters instead of their bikes these days....
Chombi1 is offline  
Old 01-02-19, 04:13 PM
  #15  
noglider 
aka Tom Reingold
 
noglider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: High Falls, NY, USA
Posts: 39,937

Bikes: 1962 Rudge Sports, 1971 Raleigh Super Course, 1971 Raleigh Pro Track, 1974 Raleigh International, 1975 Viscount Fixie, 1982 McLean, 1996 Lemond (Ti), 2002 Burley Zydeco tandem

Mentioned: 485 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6883 Post(s)
Liked 1,519 Times in 960 Posts
Originally Posted by gugie View Post
@OldsCOOL, your post reminded me of my LBS days. Young guy walks into the shop, sez "I need a bike". Takes about 5 minutes selecting one of our less expensive models, pays cash, rides out.

Yep, another DUI sale. I'm sure most anyone that's done time selling bikes will relate.
That never happened to me. But again, I live in an unusual place. Other than NYC, I had one bike shop job in Cambridge, MA and one in Tenafly, NJ, but still.
__________________
Tom Reingold, tom@noglider.com
New York City and High Falls, NY
Blogs: The Experienced Cyclist; noglider's ride blog

When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments. Elizabeth West, US author

Please email me rather than PM'ing me. Thanks.
noglider is offline  
Old 01-02-19, 04:47 PM
  #16  
gugie 
Dilberteur at large
 
gugie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 9,215

Bikes: It's complicated.

Mentioned: 1012 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3273 Post(s)
Liked 1,596 Times in 806 Posts
Originally Posted by noglider View Post
That never happened to me. But again, I live in an unusual place. Other than NYC, I had one bike shop job in Cambridge, MA and one in Tenafly, NJ, but still.
That might be a city vs suburb thing. In the burbs most everybody drives some distance to work.
__________________
If someone tells you that you have enough bicycles and you don't need any more, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
gugie is offline  
Old 01-02-19, 04:52 PM
  #17  
radroad
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 423
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 343 Post(s)
Liked 30 Times in 23 Posts
Originally Posted by SamSpade1941 View Post
Cyclists are more the outlier . I recently read the numbers specifically for Oregon and if i recall correctly only about 2% of the population incorporates cycling into their transition needs . That’s 2% of a little over 4 million people , and this is a state that goes out of its way to create bike paths, lanes, green ways etc.
Cycling as a form of transportation in most US cities is a pipe dream. Outside of a few dozen college campuses, the entire discussion is a non-starter.

Even using a bike as a grocery hauler has been a PITA and I've tried doing so almost exclusively for a couple of years.
radroad is offline  
Old 01-02-19, 05:02 PM
  #18  
noglider 
aka Tom Reingold
 
noglider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: High Falls, NY, USA
Posts: 39,937

Bikes: 1962 Rudge Sports, 1971 Raleigh Super Course, 1971 Raleigh Pro Track, 1974 Raleigh International, 1975 Viscount Fixie, 1982 McLean, 1996 Lemond (Ti), 2002 Burley Zydeco tandem

Mentioned: 485 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6883 Post(s)
Liked 1,519 Times in 960 Posts
@gugie, certainly. Here in NYC, about 40% of the households have cars. Most of us don't want cars, as they are more liabilities than assets. And mass transit works well for many of us. Tenafly, NJ is a tony suburb, so maybe some DUIs will want a bike, but I never encountered that.

I agree, @radroad, that grocery shopping with a bike is annoying. I tried it when I came back to the city. It was too much trouble. I found a supermarket three blocks from my home, and I just walk it. When I was growing up here, people used carts between home and the store. That went out of fashion, and now we just carry bags in our hands.

__________________
Tom Reingold, tom@noglider.com
New York City and High Falls, NY
Blogs: The Experienced Cyclist; noglider's ride blog

When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments. Elizabeth West, US author

Please email me rather than PM'ing me. Thanks.
noglider is offline  
Old 01-02-19, 05:25 PM
  #19  
SamSpade1941 
Senior Member
 
SamSpade1941's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 843
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 486 Post(s)
Liked 55 Times in 48 Posts
I make grocery runs to the Safeway thats close to my house and its mostly ok . In warmer weather I do the farmers market as well. However Im only buying a couple of bags at a time and not doing a large run where a cargo bike would be required . Anything that would require a cargo bike requires a car IMHO
SamSpade1941 is offline  
Old 01-02-19, 05:38 PM
  #20  
jon c. 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Tallahassee, FL
Posts: 4,113
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1143 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 334 Times in 181 Posts
Bike commuting appears pretty low, but relatively unchanged, in my city. The distance most folks travel to work makes it impractical for many and weather is big issue as well. People think 'there's no cold weather to worry about in Florida', but we have a lot of winter days in the 40s and many morning commutes would be in the 30s. That's too cold for people in these parts. Myself included. And many summers we get late afternoon thunderstorms patterns that result in a ~50% chance you'll hit a serious thunderstorm on your way home. The storms are often small cells, so it might only be raining for a mile or two, but it will be a hard rain with lightning and high wind. Few wish to deal with that.
jon c. is offline  
Old 01-02-19, 05:43 PM
  #21  
Chombi1 
Senior Member
 
Chombi1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 3,409
Mentioned: 94 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1207 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 238 Times in 177 Posts
A lot of people seem to also had fallen off the fitness wagon. So youbwon't see the number of cycling commuters increase, any time soon l.
Not that many people into fitness at the place I work.
Everybody seems to be content to eat junk food for lunch, and actually, most of the cyclists in my office are older. With most of them in their late 40's and older.
One guy I'm working with on a project, in his mid 40's said that he used to be a serious MTB rider. Now I see him eating the worst foods for lunch and he's really into commuting on electric rental scooters, almost every day, to work. Unfortunately it really shows on his body and his actions how he might be working towards big health problems by the time he hit his 50's....
Chombi1 is offline  
Old 01-02-19, 05:52 PM
  #22  
squirtdad
Senior Member
 
squirtdad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: San Jose (Willow Glen) Ca
Posts: 7,516

Bikes: 85 team Miyata (modern 5800 105) , '84 Team Miyata,(dura ace old school) '82 nishiski,

Mentioned: 72 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1348 Post(s)
Liked 638 Times in 447 Posts
I am seeing a slight increase in bike commuting on my route....... more heartening is a big increase in kids riding bikes to school. This is in an area that is flat, has good weather (the 34 degree morning today was a huge abberation)
__________________
Life is too short not to ride the best bike you have, as much as you can
squirtdad is offline  
Old 01-02-19, 06:06 PM
  #23  
John E
feros ferio
 
John E's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: www.ci.encinitas.ca.us
Posts: 20,417

Bikes: 1959 Capo Modell Campagnolo; 1960 Capo Sieger (2); 1962 Carlton Franco Suisse; 1970 Peugeot UO-8; 1982 Bianchi Campione d'Italia; 1988 Schwinn Project KOM-10;

Mentioned: 36 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 979 Post(s)
Liked 381 Times in 280 Posts
I blame aggressive, drunk, distracted, drugged, inattentive, stoned, and otherwise incompetent motorists. Solve that problem, and I would do a lot more road cycling.
__________________
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
John E is offline  
Old 01-02-19, 06:31 PM
  #24  
Chombi1 
Senior Member
 
Chombi1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 3,409
Mentioned: 94 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1207 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 238 Times in 177 Posts
Originally Posted by John E View Post
I blame aggressive, drunk, distracted, drugged, inattentive, stoned, and otherwise incompetent motorists. Solve that problem, and I would do a lot more road cycling.
I agree, I quit taking my motorcycle to work about 5 years ago when I realized just how bad and dangerous the traffic is, coming in and out of SF.....
Chombi1 is offline  
Old 01-02-19, 06:59 PM
  #25  
crank_addict
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 7,152
Mentioned: 93 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1361 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 393 Times in 258 Posts
Chicago area has an increase of fatalities in motorcyclist and bicyclist categories. Can list a large number of reasons but in regards to motorcyclist, IL is one of three states without a helmet law for adults (other is Iowa and New Hampshire).

Years ago I commuted by motorcycle. I enjoyed it until one morning in stop and go / with nearby police traffic coordinator presence. A motorist parked on the shoulder abruptly decided to merge onto the road, unfortunately where I was. It happened so quickly but lucky at low speed. The incident still very vivid in my head. Always had worn a full face helmet and leather jacket, gloves and boots. This incident was enough to rip through the leathers and do a nice number on my prized Honda CBX with aftermarket turbo.

That was years ago during a time I would consider it much safer. It seems so odd to say, but with all of todays safer vehicles, traffic controls and lanes, its really about the road raging righteous that plagues.
crank_addict is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.