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Chains to use

Sometimes I really hate the search function on this site. I'm curious what folks are using for chains on their C&V rides. I used to use the SRAM PC850 quite a bit but have used some KMC chains on the last few bikes and, to be honest, I haven't noticed much of a difference. The KMC is definitely less expensive.

What are you using and why?
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Kmc. That's what KMC looks like at the beginning of the sentence.

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Vintage Sedisport - because they work (quietly).

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Originally Posted by thumpism View Post
Kmc. That's what KMC looks like at the beginning of the sentence.
Any specific one - I noticed they have quite a range. I picked up a Z50 today which, online, is between $5-7. The SRAM was routinely $20. Is weight really the only difference on some of them?
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I used to use the better level KMC chains but have switched over to SRAM PC850's and 870's.
I think they are quieter and shift better.
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Originally Posted by rccardr View Post
I used to use the better level KMC chains but have switched over to SRAM PC850's and 870's.
I think they are quieter and shift better.
Interesting on the quietness. I have a couple of Suntour rear derailleurs that seem "buzzy" the more tension they get (i.e lower gear in the large chainring). I just thought it was the derailleur - maybe it's really the chain.
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SRAM PC850 for 8-speed and below. Sometimes PC830 when they come up for cheap, but those usually end up on bikes that get sold.
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Originally Posted by scozim View Post
..have used some KMC chains on the last few bikes and, to be honest, I haven't noticed much of a difference. The KMC is definitely less expensive.

What are you using and why?
...KMC 8.93, which I can buy online for less than 10 bucks each if I buy 5 at a time. If they are noisy, I'm too old and deaf to hear it, and they work well on everything I have put them on ( which is a lot of bikes). Back when Sedisport was cheap and you could buy it in bulk rolls, I used that for the same reason.

If the SRAM chains are as cheap, I'm open to trying them. But for my usage, the x plate KMC chains work fine.
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Old 01-03-19, 10:25 PM
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KMC. The Centurion Ironman with Suntour GPX finicky Accu**** system likes Z51 and Z72 equally. Only difference appears to be the mushroom head rivets on the Z72.

But those are noisy and touchy in the GPX friction mode. Slab sided plain chains like the Z33 may work better.

Z72 on the Univega Via Carisma, Shimano Exage 500CX, various shifters and cassettes, mostly friction mode.

And I like the Missing Link quick links. I carry spares. Finally used a spare Missing Link on a friend's bike recently when the chain snapped. Took only a few minutes to fix.
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I like the KMC X8.93. It's a really nice looking chain when it's clean, works well for me, and is very reasonably priced.
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Chain life with my dabbles into Wipperman and KMC chains - one each in 8-speed - was roughly half what I routinely get out of SRAM PC870, which has always exceeded 3000 miles/chain, with identical lube and frequency of its application. So I’m back to being a regular user of the latter. Back when they were Sachs chains, and I could get the all silver PC22 chains, chain life was over 6000 miles, and I was stronger then!

I will admit to being surprised at the longevity of the Shimano Ultegra 11-speed chain on my wife’s bike. Still on the first chain after more than 2500 miles, despite needing to replace the rather pricy 11-40 cassette once in that span.
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What is the difference in the SRAM 830 850 & 870 chains other than price? If its smoother quieter or shifts better I don't mind a few bucks one way or another.
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Any specific one - I noticed they have quite a range. I picked up a Z50 today which, online, is between $5-7. The SRAM was routinely $20. Is weight really the only difference on some of them?
Z72 derailleur chains and also the one for CB/3-speed drivetrains. Been a while since I bought one so I'm not sure of the numbers. I used to use Sedisport but switched over when repping to get a feel for the product. I don't need anything fancier/narrower since my stuff stops at 8-speed clusters. Primitive, I know.

The KMC Missing Link is handy and it's a positive feature.

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@TXsailor - Differences are in the plating of the parts. 830 - none, 850 - Chrome pin, 870 - chrome pin and nickel outer plate.

Can you guess the next step? 890 - Chrome pin, nickel outer and inner plate.
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I've been using either SRAM or KMC chains for many years and really can't tell much difference. Basically I'd buy either 8 speed or 9 speed versions and use the 8s on freewheels and 9s on cassettes (nothing larger than a 9 speed cassette).

This fall I bought a couple of KMC anti-rust chains to go on my winter bike and my folder (which is mostly ridden near the beach). Anyone had experience with the anti rust chain? Riding conditions have been awful and unsafe here in the NH mountains, so I've not had the pleasure yet.

FWIIW, when Rivendell and Grant sent out their email last week saying they could use a bit of help, I was perusing their store and his blog and he commented that they were using and selling just KMC chains at this point.
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On my recent build , a 84' Centurion Comp TA with a Shimano 6 speed freewheel and friction shifters and Dura Ace 7400 RD . I used the KMC Z51 (and I did not use the quick link) . Also the big chain ring is a Stronglight and the small one is Shimano 105 . It works really well . Nothing against the SRAM 850 , it's probably a better chain it just slipped my mind .

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Originally Posted by Drillium Dude View Post
Vintage Sedisport - because they work (quietly).

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Yes. And they also shift very well. A design ahead of it's time.

For my modern bikes, nothing even comes close to a KMC X11SL (or similar) and for Single Speed KMC 810
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I use a Wippermann Connex 808 for 8 speed duties.
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Yea Sedisport would be the C&V chain for your 6, 7, 8 speed derailleur bike's chain , It introduced the features most other chains now all use ..

Plus I could close the loop with my Chain tool..
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Vintage Sedisport - because they work (quietly).DD
Absolutely - and Regina for my Italian bikes. I had the sense to stock up on consumables many decades ago. Unfortunately I only have 1 NOS Sedisport and 2 Regina chains left. I do like KMC chains, which I use on my more modern bikes.
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Absolutely - and Regina for my Italian bikes. I had the sense to stock up on consumables many decades ago. Unfortunately I only have 1 NOS Sedisport and 2 Regina chains left. I do like KMC chains, which I use on my more modern bikes.
I am always on the lookout for them at swap meets. For a time, Boulder Bicycle had a bunch of them, bulk chain, not in original packaging, for $16 each, maximum of four per order. I just checked today and they don't currently have any more

I am still running a couple Everest chains - and one NOS Regina on my garage queen. But in use, I prefer the quiet, sure-shifting French(!) chain. I remember back in the day they could be had for $4.95 - or $7.95 if you wanted black/silver or black/gold. Still just as nice as I remember.

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Mostly PC870. They look great and work well. KMC on at least one bike. I don't recall the model but Z70 comes to mind as a possibility. It doesn't look as nice but seems to work just fine. I should go check.
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I have a Regina SL hollow-pin chain on my Bianchi Tipo Corsa because I have a Regina freewheel and, I'll admit, I thought the "hollow-pin" thing was "cool". (I also got the employee discount on it back in the day.)
On the Cannondale SM600 MTB, I have Sedisport because they seem to last and give me no shifting problems.
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