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Originally Posted by dddd
(Post 20737236)
I (and I suspect T-Mar) appreciate the compliments coming from Chicago!
Curiously, New 600 EX, while all-new in design, preceded the SIS era. While certainly not the lightest 600 friction gruppo, I think of it as perhaps the pinnacle of Shimano's friction gruppos, Servo-Panta at it's very best, with robust durability, and I think newer in design than Shimano's last Dura-Ace friction gruppo. As a serious Suntour partisan at the time, It escaped my notice. But I found a Centurion Elite RS a few years ago that was somewhat of a revelation in terms of friction shifting performance, once I updated the chain to UG Narrow (dimensionally identical to today's HG). Oddly enough, Centurion offered bikes with both New 600EX and 600 SIS concurrently, as their prices were significantly different. The former gruppo may have had the aesthetic advantage, no? Sorry this photo isn't sharper. Besides New 600EX, there were some other non-indexed Shimano derailleurs newly released for the 1984 model year. Most notable is Deore XT, but there were also some Light Action and/or Z-series introduced that year. There were also some new Light Action derailleurs released for the 1986 model year that were not listed a SIS compatible, though the designs certainly look SIS compatible. For instance, the 1986 RD-L525 is available in three different cage lengths but only the shortest cage version is listed as being SIS compatible. That's very perplexing. :foo: https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2239957c9d.jpg |
Originally Posted by kross57
(Post 20736289)
The history is interesting, but I was more concerned with any inherent flaws, or known problems. Not hearing any. The early SIS seems solid to me.
As far as upper/lower case and hyphens - I'll pass. Regarding the history and model name syntax, you'll just have to live with the ongoing discussion, as you're one who opened those cans. |
I have the Colnago master with DA7400(SL-7400) which can be run as SIS or friction. So far I had no problems at all, and it still runs real smooth. I do regular maintenance or occasional adjustment for sure. If you have your model number, you can go to Shimano web site and look for service documentation on it. Very simple to compare todays shifting system but very effective imho.
This is link to the search page for the manuals and documents. Hope that helps. si.shimano.com/#/ |
Finally confirmed that my Ross is a 1989. They offered the SIS in a couple of different configurations.
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Originally Posted by kross57
(Post 20733710)
I picked up a late-80's Ross Gran Tour that uses a Shimano SIS shifter system. This seems to be an early version of indexed shifting. I have to say it works very well. Any experience with this? Problems?
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b50d3e8003.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9ab1a2d5fb.jpg RX100, DA 9 speed triple, 10 speed 105. A shift cable started to fray in the shifter around 6,000 miles. I see that as normal maintenance, a little better than the others. |
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