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Old 01-06-19, 09:11 AM
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Sturmey Archer S5.2 question

I have a 1969 SA S5 hub on a bike that I'm very pleased with. I'm planning a custom build and found a nice NOS S5.2 hub. Shell dated April 1983. I'm confused about the advise from Sheldon Brown's S5 web page. They recommend upgrading the S5.1 hub to S5.2 specs or retro fitting it to S5 specs because of problems with the S5.1 staying in gear. However, the instructions claim that only hubs dated 8/88 or later contain the recommended up grades. So where does this leave a S5.2 hub from 4/83? I suppose I'll use the hub as is because of the rarity of parts, but I was wondering if anyone here has experience with these hubs and any advise for me. Thanks

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No advice but thats a cool hub.
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I have the guts of one of those hubs, but not the shell, which makes it difficult* for me to say what the date on the shell was. I used it for a while, and it was okay, but the adjustment on the left side shifter was really tricky, such that it would randomly switch back and forth between medium range and wide range. I found this annoying, so I switched in an older version.

I don't think I have any advice for you, but if you have a specific question I might come up with something.

*Okay, impossible.
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It's just like TI/Raleigh to fix something that wasn't broken. My experience with the bell crank S5 is entirely positive. Although I'm using a trigger on the right and friction for the left. It does take a bit of finesse to engage the wide range, but it's reliable and every other shift is smooth as silk. Well, this is a .2 and the problem is supposed to be with the .1. I'll post a review here after I get some mileage on it.
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You don't show the right-side actuator stuff you have. If you have one of the "crappy bellcrank" ones, then Mark Stonich (MnHPVA Guy) can fix you up -- he knows how to repurpose a Shimano one.
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You don't show the right-side actuator stuff you have. If you have one of the "crappy bellcrank" ones, then Mark Stonich (MnHPVA Guy) can fix you up -- he knows how to repurpose a Shimano one.
They changed from a bellcrank/ pushrod left side to a indicator pin/chain left side on these. It came with both indicator pins. I assume it works backwards from the original S5.
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You don't show the right-side actuator stuff you have. If you have one of the "crappy bellcrank" ones, then Mark Stonich (MnHPVA Guy) can fix you up -- he knows how to repurpose a Shimano one.
I think we're talking about a hub that has a pull chain on both sides.
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They changed from a bellcrank/ pushrod left side to a indicator pin/chain left side on these. It came with both indicator pins. I assume it works backwards from the original S5.
Thread bump!

Have you gotten this hub laced into a wheel?

Do you know if the left side indicator chain is the same part as the right side indicator chain?

Lastly, is the left side shifting reversed from the older S5 as you hypothesised?


Thanks!
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So, I did find more info on this, the S5/2 does shift differently than the S5. If the shifter going to the left side of the hub fails (cable goes slack) on the S5 you still have use of 2 3 and 4, but if the left side shifter fails on the S5/2 you endup with use of 1 3 and 5. That is, tension on the left cable of the S5 put the hub in the wide range ratio, and tension on the left side cable of the S5/2 puts the hub in the close ratio.
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It's still sitting there in the box. I was holding out for a light weight frame, but I've decided to spend a lot less money and use it on a 70s Sports I already have. A winter project.

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Originally Posted by jackbombay View Post
Thread bump!

Have you gotten this hub laced into a wheel?

Do you know if the left side indicator chain is the same part as the right side indicator chain?

Lastly, is the left side shifting reversed from the older S5 as you hypothesised?


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The indicator pins are different lengths
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