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Old 01-14-19, 03:03 AM
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Branding Shimano 600ax aero bikes.

I'm new on this forum and can't show you any pictured yet.
I own a nameless early aero bike with a special Tange frame and a Shimano 600 ax group on it. I have seen these being branded as: Jan Janssen, Norta, Diamant and Plum.
No doubt there are many more.
Show me yours ! Do they qualify for Eroica events as the year is 1982?
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Old 01-14-19, 03:39 AM
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Hmmm, Here is @Hubertus ' Album.
https://www.bikeforums.net/g/user/493655
https://www.bikeforums.net/g/album/12422088

But, alas, no Shimano 600AX bike.

Here is my thread about the SR Semi Pro.
SR Semi Pro Aero on the way

I haven't had a chance to do much with the bike yet. Another project for "soon".

I have acquired some replacement brake hoods, and do plan to try to clone them sometime.
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A recent gift to me was this partial Belgian Superia Gemini ax. Dressed up in Guerciotti clothing. The catalog shot after.
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Old 01-14-19, 11:49 AM
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The last time I looked, they still had the rule prohibiting aero brake cable routing and aero levers.
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Old 01-14-19, 11:59 AM
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I think the Italians were a bit repressive with their Eroica rules, but I believe those are changing to be more accepting. And, they did have exceptions for parts vintage before their "cutoff".

I doubt many people would be turned away at the gate.
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Aero brake levers have been permitted at Eroica CA for the last several years.
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Tange frame

The SR is very much like my own bike. The guerciotti frame isn't.
I still have to find out how this site works. Can you look at the pictured in my album?
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The OP's bicycle is one of the quasi-aero frames with the down and seat tubes formed to an elliptical profile only in the mid-section. This was a cost concession that permitted conventional lugs to be used, as well as standard, clamp mount front derailleurs and round seat posts. If desired, they could also use the clamp mount shift levers. These are more common than full aero frames and were offered in more brand names. Given the Tange tubing, it is likely Japanese in origin, in which case the serial number may disclose the manufacturer and build date. Photo assist...
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There are several differences between my SR and your "unknown" bike.
  1. Cone Shaped headset on my SR-Semi-Pro
  2. Aero (AX) shifters on the SR-Semi-Pro
  3. Non-round seatpost on the SR-Semi-Pro (note the seat tube is round at the bottom).
  4. Non-round lower headtube lug.
  5. rear brake cable routed below the Top Tube.
  6. I like @Hubertus ' front cable clip.

There are also quite a few similarities between the bikes. It is possible they are the same, but different years.

However, I would imagine there is a common tube set, and lugs. I need to move my pump peg, and I'll verify my tubing type.
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Wasn't there a Lotus with AX?
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Oh, Huffy made an AX based bike too.

Although, that one was the Huffy Aerowind based on the Shimano Adamas AX groupset. But, it would be important to note that Shimano made a full line of "aero" groupsets from simply "AX" to "Adamas AX" to "600 AX" to "Dura Ace AX".

And, of course, these were built into a range of bikes.
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Tange frame designed by Shimano.

As I understand it. Shimano designed the entire aero bike, including the Tange frame and all the Little details. This complete bicycle then was sold by various manufacturers under their own brand.
I wonder how many there are. I spotted a Shogun recently on Pinterest.
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The only aero bicycles that Shimano had direct input on, were the show models that they had contract built to display their AX component groups. The majority of Asian manufactured brands aligned with Shimano had aero models. Among those not already mentioned, that immediately come to mind, are Araya, Miyata, Nishiki, Panasonic, Tsunoda, Takara, Univega and Velosport. Many of these were contract manufactured by other companies, so the best indicator of origin is the serial number.
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