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Old 01-16-19, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by xetaprime View Post
Thank you. I wasn't going to do another bike. Really! Then the BA DVD happened (because of this forum)... The last bike I rustoleum-ed I said it was my last. You kind of forget the waiting, sanding, waiting- oil based brushes/rollers... Then the idea takes over. Thank you for your comment
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Tough crowd. Anybody here wear Brut after-shave and reek of Lavoris?
BF is usually a tough crowd. ^^^ I get the quote now that I watched Breaking Away for the 1st time is 20 or so years last night after reading this thread. Based on recent Breaking Away discussions on that other thread I found a new in box DVD offered for under $10 on Amazon. When it arrived I was disappointed to find it was for "Region Code 2" and wouldn't play on our DVD player. This thread prompted me to give it another try, this time on the home PC and after some setting option changes it worked and had captions, which I found helpful in some scenes...yea !!

I don't see a problem with the project and xetaprime says he'd never try to sell the bike with Masi decals, and I have faith he'd never try to pass it off as a true Masi to anyone interested in the bike. I'm sure he'd enjoy showing off his work. Screen captures can bring out details that pass by too quickly to notice in real time, like the Bloomington High School South sticker on Dave's bedroom window.

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Old 01-16-19, 07:37 AM
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While we are on the subject anyone know where I can get some Wizard or Cyclops decals? I think I am going to try and repaint this old frame
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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll View Post
While we are on the subject anyone know where I can get some Wizard or Cyclops decals? I think I am going to try and repaint this old frame
Ask the Masi forger---he knows a guy who knows a guy. Just be sure to swear that you'll never, ever sell it as the real thing (wink, wink)!
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My take on it - it is much more fun when someone takes a frame and do the opposite of "up-badging". When it comes to almost all vehicles the "sleeper" is my favourite. Something that looks innocent but turns out to be something else when...
A wolf in sheeps clothing is much more fun than a sheep in wolfs clothing.

Making a sleeper out of a vintage upmarket/rare/sought after frame would also cause an uproar - "how in h-ll can you take an XX and do that!?" The perpetrator would of course have to defend his/hers actions in this case also. But maybe more in line with "it was wasted and not possible to repair as an original."

My Monark is a wolf in sheeps clothing. This one however done back when and both the brand and the maker were in on it as with many team bikes over the years.

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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll View Post
While we are on the subject anyone know where I can get some Wizard or Cyclops decals? I think I am going to try and repaint this old frame
Who cares what it is, just make it a Masi, everybody's doing it.
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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll View Post
While we are on the subject anyone know where I can get some Wizard or Cyclops decals? I think I am going to try and repaint this old frame
I desperately want some Cyclops Decals too.
But preferably attached to a Cyclops Frame.
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It's not a Masi,it's not about being a Masi. This bike is an homage bike to a GREAT bicycle movie "Breaking Away", an homage bike which in typical Hollywood cost cutting was a fake. Throw bricks at the movie maker if you will, but this is the essence of bike passion. In fact using the Trek frame set he has probably made an even better bike than that used in the movie. If the movie ended with a disclosure statement "No Masi bikes were used or destroyed in the making of this movie" would you feel better? I would love to see you at the Eroica showing off this vintage fake homage bike.
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Just as an aside, no one blinks an eye at the fake cars used by Hollywood, some even pay a lot for owning the real “fake” car.

Vanishing Point

When the makers of the existentially angsty 1971 classic Vanishing Point chose a car for main character Kowalski to drive across the US, there was only one choice - the (then) all-new Dodge Challenger R/T.

Not because it was an awesome car, mind you (although it was and still is), but because 20th Century Fox executive Richard Zanuck told them to. He wanted to do Chrysler a favour for its long-time practice of providing the studio with cars on a rental basis for only a dollar a day. Really.So Chrysler loaned Fox five Challengers that had to be returned, making the final scene where Kowalski drives the Challenger into a pair of bulldozers a bit hard to execute. But not if you slyly substitute the Challenger for a white Camaro for the key scene. Which they did. And which people noticed. Funny that.

Ferris Bueller

It is pretty widely known that the "Ferrari 250 GT" in what was almost certainly the best film in 1986 - Ferris Bueller's Day Off - was actually a kit car built on an MG chassis. What is less well known is that the company that built it was effectively sued into oblivion after the movie came out.By 1986 Ferrari was pretty fed up with all the kit car makers ripping off its old designs. More importantly, it was even more upset with them using its logo and name on the fakes. So after a bunch of movie and TV shows came out in the early 1980s that used fake Ferraris - complete with name and logo - they decided to get all litigious. Mark Goyette and Neil Glassmoyer built the replica that caught director John Huges' eye, so he got them to make him three for the movie. Goethe and Glassmaker thought there could be a business in it, but Ferrari had other ideas.[They even have value, Mecum Auction will auction off this car: “Glassmoyer himself will be present with the car's certificate of authenticity at the auction, where Mecum tells us the 1,596-mile car is expected to go for $250,000 to $300,000.” What did it sell for at auction? “One of three slick cherry-red "Ferarris" featured in the 1986 movie "Ferris Bueller's Day Off" was sold at auction this weekend. The Modena GT Spyder California - not actually a Ferrari, as Cam says in the movie -- was estimated to go for $375,000. But it ended up fetching $407,000.”]

Rendezvous

Perhaps the most infamous Ferrari-based celluloid deception of all time was in the short film C'était un rendez-vous by French film maker Claude Lelouch. And the car in question is never even seen.The legendary film is basically an eight-minute long high-speed (and highly illegal) drive across Paris in the early morning. Filmed by Lelouch with a 35mm camera attached to the front of a car, he also did the driving - in his own Ferrari 275 GTB. Except it actually wasn't. While the sound of the engine was the Ferrari, the actual car he used was his Mercedes-Benz 450SEL 6.9. Not quite as romantic, perhaps, but actually a hell of a lot more impressive! It also explains why it was so easy for him to belt up over the kerb at one point and simply carry on.

Miami Vice

Like the Ferrari in Ferris Bueller's Day Off, the Daytona that Sonny Crockett drove in Miami Vice was also a fake. While Ferrari sued the makers of the replica, they also offered real Ferraris to the TV show. According to legend, Ferrari offered five Testarossas - one each for main actors Don Johnson and Philip Michael Thomas, one for producer Michael Mann and two to be used in the show.So in season three, Crockett drove a white Testarossa. Ironically, however, a Testarossa replica (made from a De Tomaso Pantera) was used for stunt work. It was created by the same bloke that built the Daytona!

Skyfall

When Javier Bardem's dentally-challenged villain shot up James Bond's iconic Aston Martin DB5 in Skyfall, it was a scene that made many an Aston Martin fan squirm in horror. After all, a DB5 is something of a rare car these days.Aston Martin only made 1059 examples of the DB5 between 1963 and 1965, and even the car that originally featured in the 1964 Bond film Goldfinger was a DB4-based prototype. But fear not, because the producers of Skyfall didn't actually destroy a DB5. Instead they destroyed a 1/3 scale model of a DB5. Possibly because they were aware of the history and rarity of the DB5, but more likely because they couldn't justify the cost of destroying an actual DB5. They do tend to sell for around US$5 million or so these days.
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Originally Posted by SurferRosa View Post
...Did you give any thought to filing off the rear rack mounts?
Originally Posted by xetaprime View Post
I did. And almost did. But then thought keep them- crash bike.
This decision guarantees that only an idiot would ever think this is a real masi race bike if it ever turns up on craigslist/ebay someday.

I love it.
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My last Rustoleum paint job. Just painted my '77 Bus in September. Used a 2" brush. 3 coats of paint. Then buffed out with polishing compound. I have painted it every year since I bought it 5 years ago. The bus sits out year long in Chicago climate...sun, heat, snow, ice. I find its the best way to maintain the finish. Its about 6 hours total to sand, 3 coats paint, and buff.

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Rustoleum is a great product. It drys fast. It drys hard. It polishes out well. Durable. My bus sits out all summer, about 8 hours a day of sun. I havent noticed any fading.

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Old 01-16-19, 09:34 AM
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Visit musical instrument forums, and you'll see lots of posts by people who proudly report refinishing and slapping Fender USA decals on their off-brand instruments, followed by hot denials that the instrument would ever be sold and blustering assertions that "I did it for my own amusement, and I don't care what you think!"

The same forums have equal numbers of posts by people looking at instruments on eBay and Craiglist who ask, "Is this a legit Fender?" (Usual answer: no.)
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Here's another thought, do you really want Hollywood to use authentic stuff in making their movies? Here's what can happen when they do:

It turns out Kurt Russell went a little too far in portraying a cagey bounty hunter in Quentin Tarantino's latest movie "The Hateful Eight." The actor is responsible for destroying a 145-year-old guitar during shooting. The guitar, which Jennifer Jason Leigh's character plays in one scene until it's snatched by Russell, who then smashes it against a pillar, was a one-of-a-kind Martin from the 1870s that was on loan from the Martin Guitar Museum. In all fairness, Russell didn't know he was handling an antique in the scene. And according to Dick Boak, the director of the museum, archives, and special projects for C.F. Martin & Co., the production didn't fess up to exactly how the guitar was destroyed. "We assumed that a scaffolding or something fell on it," Boak told Reverb. "We understand that things happen, but at the same time we can't take this lightly. All this about the guitar being smashed being written into the script and that somebody just didn't tell the actor, this is all new information to us. We didn't know anything about the script or Kurt Russell not being told that it was a priceless, irreplaceable artifact from the Martin Museum." So what went wrong? The film's sound mixer, Mark Ulano, filled in SSN Insider: "What was supposed to happen was we were supposed to go up to that point, cut, and trade guitars and smash the double," according to Ulano, who said six doubles were made of the Martin guitar. "Well, somehow that didn't get communicated to Kurt, so when you see that happen on the frame, Jennifer's reaction is genuine." Here's the destruction of the Martin in the movie (check out Leigh's reaction at the end): Boak told Reverb that the museum has been remunerated for the insurance value of the guitar.

Money, really? You can’t replace the tone of 145 year old wood.
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I would do some research into what Masi is doing to its own name and reputation these days. Masi "Otto" anyone? Ditto Schwinn and Raleigh, under their new owners.
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That paint job looks GREAT!!
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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll View Post
While we are on the subject anyone know where I can get some Wizard or Cyclops decals? I think I am going to try and repaint this old frame
Put a couple of clubs on there and that's a "Colnago" ALL day long
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Disclosure: I have nothing to add but 'copy and paste' from the interwebs.

(The following is from Tom Schwoegler, who was the technical adviser on the 1977 movie Breaking Away.)

"We purchased 2 Masi's from Faliero (or was it Alberto... the one who was building in California at the time). We also had 2 extra forks. One fork was bent to simulate the wreck when the pump is put in the front wheel. I bent the fork and it was not easy. We also had a Sears Free Spirit painted and hand decaled to look like a Masi. We had to hand-paint the decals because Masi would not give us an extra set. The Sears bike was mounted on a special platform for the close shots of Dennis Christopher. You can tell if he is on the Sear bike because it had Weinmann brakes and the brake cable came down on the opposite side when compared to the Campy brakes.

Both Masi's returned to California after the film was shot. Steve Tesich ended up with one of them (he was the one who insisted on getting Masi's for Dave and Colnago's for the Italian Team. We only had to buy 2 Colanago's as two of the guys who played those riders already had Colnago's (one of the guys was Christian VanDeVelde's dad, John). I still have one of those bikes, a gift from Director Peter Yates and the other was sold to a friend of mine in Indianapolis who later sold it. I also ended up with the bent fork from the "wrecked" Masi." – Tom Schwoegler
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Here's another thought, do you really want Hollywood to use authentic stuff in making their movies? Here's what can happen when they do:

It turns out Kurt Russell went a little too far in portraying a cagey bounty hunter in Quentin Tarantino's latest movie "The Hateful Eight." The actor is responsible for destroying a 145-year-old guitar during shooting. The guitar, which Jennifer Jason Leigh's character plays in one scene until it's snatched by Russell, who then smashes it against a pillar, was a one-of-a-kind Martin from the 1870s that was on loan from the Martin Guitar Museum. In all fairness, Russell didn't know he was handling an antique in the scene. And according to Dick Boak, the director of the museum, archives, and special projects for C.F. Martin & Co., the production didn't fess up to exactly how the guitar was destroyed. "We assumed that a scaffolding or something fell on it," Boak told Reverb. "We understand that things happen, but at the same time we can't take this lightly. All this about the guitar being smashed being written into the script and that somebody just didn't tell the actor, this is all new information to us. We didn't know anything about the script or Kurt Russell not being told that it was a priceless, irreplaceable artifact from the Martin Museum." So what went wrong? The film's sound mixer, Mark Ulano, filled in SSN Insider: "What was supposed to happen was we were supposed to go up to that point, cut, and trade guitars and smash the double," according to Ulano, who said six doubles were made of the Martin guitar. "Well, somehow that didn't get communicated to Kurt, so when you see that happen on the frame, Jennifer's reaction is genuine." Here's the destruction of the Martin in the movie (check out Leigh's reaction at the end): Boak told Reverb that the museum has been remunerated for the insurance value of the guitar.

Money, really? You can’t replace the tone of 145 year old wood.
Looks like just a flesh wound.
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Originally Posted by trailangel View Post
That paint job looks GREAT!!
Thanks! It's my 3rd Rustoleum job and last. I quit
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Then there's the 'Massi' bicycle company.

We need a Mazee.
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Originally Posted by Drillium Dude View Post
This isn't a real Masi, either - but I doubt many here would fault the builder for constructing it as a tribute:



OP: I think your project looks great, and for one would like to hear more about how the paint process went down. I'm flabbergasted that is the result of brushing the paint on! And I totally get where you are going with this "replica of a replica".

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The question of the ethics of falsely branding a bike has been a matter of concern to many. Some folks do try to make it clear that the bike is not exactly what it appears to be. One example that comes to mind is the Colnago Super replica built by Brian Baylis. Definitely not equivalent to passing a Trek off as a Masi... but does show that some people feel compelled to be forthcoming about the bike's origin.



Personally.... I have a higher regard for a Baylis built bike than a production Colnago, so the disclaimer definitely increases the value in my eyes.

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The paint and decals look great, but I'm surprised you would post photos of the project here. You were asking for trouble! Imagine going on to a classic automobile buff website and posting your fake '63 split window Corvette. Do you think you would get a positive response?

Perhaps a better analogy would be re-creating the "fake General Lee" from the later seasons of the Dukes of Hazzard. Some people estimate that they destroyed more than 300 actual 1969 Dodge Chargers filming that show, and towards the end of the show's run they started passing off AMC Ambassadors as Dodge Chargers for many of the stunt sequences. Would people in the classic car community have objections to re-creating the AMC Amabassador as a '69 Dodge Charger? I think they might get a pass for a silly project like that.

I will just admire your work, and make sure to remember this thread if I'm ever looking for an expensive Italian bike on eBay!
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Would people in the classic car community have objections to re-creating the AMC Amabassador as a '69 Dodge Charger? I think they might get a pass for a silly project like that.
The again, the confederate flag on the roof might cause more trouble. Scratch that analogy too!
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What everyone has to understand is that OP isn't sharing this project to present it as an original Masi. Instead as a fan who really wants a Breaking Away Masi.

To suggest this is a counterfeit, forgery, or deception implies he's selling it as an authentic Masi or movie used bicycle.

Hes being creative and bringing one if his holy grail bikes to life.

I don't hear eBay sellers getting bashed for repainting frames and selling for ridiculous prices. A repaint doesn't deserve a premium. An original does.

I applaud OP for the job he's done and effort. Thanks for sharing.

One more thing. What are the chances of OP getting an authentic Breaking Away Masi?..He can't and neither can I.

So let's make one instead

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Makes me want to do a Colnago inspired Denali just because
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