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Old 01-17-19, 04:30 PM
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Now this is what I'm talking about.


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Originally Posted by Lascauxcaveman
What @gugie is referring to here is UNCANNY RESEMBLANCE between a Legnano head badge and one I created for an old Japanese bike boom bike I had sneakily painted the iconic Legnano colors. Look closely and try to spot the fake:




(Hint: the one on the right is not available from VeloCals.)
That is funny
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Originally Posted by tyler_fred
"Why is the one on the left wearing the snorkel on his crotch?" is the more pressing question?
Is the username "snorkelcrotch" taken yet? Why didn't I think of that one?
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Just to state the obvious, 2 days, over 200 posts, 9 pages = lively discussion, ya gotta love C+V.
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Originally Posted by Lemond1985
Is the username "snorkelcrotch" taken yet? Why didn't I think of that one?
You gotta have a Legnano first, or risk being banned.
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Originally Posted by merziac
Just to state the obvious, 2 days, over 200 posts, 9 pages = lively discussion, ya gotta love C+V.
What would Grant Petersen do?

(there's your inside joke for the day)
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Now this is what I'm talking about.


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My Dan Quale signature series bike. (An old Clunker Challenge entry).
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Old 01-17-19, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by gugie
Dunno. Have you ever talked to Christine at Velocals? I have, they had to pull Raleigh decals from their website for awhile due to a cease and desist order.
Looking at VeloCals website, there is nothing about the legality of using their decals on bicycles that aren't the same brand as represented by the decals. You would think that some "we get out of jail free" statement by VeloCals, putting all the responsibility on the decal purchaser, would be present on the site, if a prior issue of misrepresentation had happened. I'm not an expert, just curious interloper.
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And what about the issue of mis-branded team bikes, where someone else builds them, but the builder puts the team decals on them anyway? That's really deceptive, since the public sees pros riding them during races, on TV and in cycling fan magazines.



"Hey, this isn't a Huffy! It was built by Serotta. I want my money back, I thought I was buying a 'real' Huffy!
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Originally Posted by uncle uncle
Looking at VeloCals website, there is nothing about the legality of using their decals on bicycles that aren't the same brand as represented by the decals. You would think that some "we get out of jail free" statement by VeloCals, putting all the responsibility on the decal purchaser, would be present on the site, if a prior issue of misrepresentation had happened. I'm not an expert, just curious interloper.
Oh but there is. You don't see until you're checking out, and you can't check out unless you agree to it. I posted a screen shot earlier in this thread. I'll repost it here:



There are those that argue that it's practically not enforceable. Yeah, and one plastic cup left on the beach doesn't hurt much. Doesn't make it right. The real fear is that enough people decide to rebadge bikes using Velocals decals, and Velocals starts getting trademark lawyers telling them to stop making decals, and they either go out of business, or decide only to sell to legitimate frame painters (which used to be the case BITD). That'll affect all the DIY'ers out there, it'll lessen Velcal sales, possibly enough so they decide it's not worth doing it anymore.
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OK, I know I'm being an SOB here. I apologize in advance. But if I have a Univega, that was built by Miyata, whose decals would I be allowed to put on the bike during a re-paint? Univega only? Miyata, since they're the ones who really built it? Both? Or neither?
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Didn't Merckx ride a Colnago with Windsor branding in Mexico?
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I can't decide which thread has been more entertaining this week, this one or the "triggered" one.
Maybe we should demand that xetaprime put a stipulation in his last will and testament that the bike either be destroyed or converted back to a Trek after his death.

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Originally Posted by Lemond1985
OK, I know I'm being an SOB here. I apologize in advance. But if I have a Univega, that was built by Miyata, whose decals would I be allowed to put on the bike during a re-paint? Univega only? Miyata, since they're the ones who really built it? Both? Or neither?
I would think either. But I would side with the original builder.
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Originally Posted by gugie
Oh but there is. You don't see until you're checking out, and you can't check out unless you agree to it. I posted a screen shot earlier in this thread. I'll repost it here:



There are those that argue that it's practically not enforceable. Yeah, and one plastic cup left on the beach doesn't hurt much. Doesn't make it right. The real fear is that enough people decide to rebadge bikes using Velocals decals, and Velocals starts getting trademark lawyers telling them to stop making decals, and they either go out of business, or decide only to sell to legitimate frame painters (which used to be the case BITD). That'll affect all the DIY'ers out there, it'll lessen Velcal sales, possibly enough so they decide it's not worth doing it anymore.
In my own defense: I had built what I considered a Raleigh 'Tribute' bike not too long ago. I wrote Velocals and asked if I could use a decal meant for that bike. They said yes. In this instance, because I was going for the movie Masi 'crash' bike which existed, I didn't feel I was misleading anyone. I'm not opposed to a sticker that says replica. Or, something more severe And I will have the bike cremated with me. Truth be told, there will likely come a time when I need $ and will part out the components... maybe, or not...
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Originally Posted by Bad Lag
MASI Grand Criterium came in that color. ;-)
Sweet! I'll take a look at one.
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What about this guy?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-197...d/264143502526


Check out the paint on the dropout adjuster (no offense)?
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Originally Posted by merziac
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The thread delivers! Worthy of a book or ABC Afterschool Special.
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Originally Posted by xetaprime
What about this guy?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-197...d/264143502526


Check out the paint on the dropout adjuster (no offense)?
Well that settles it, all hail the tribu-man!
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Guilty as charged.
Genuine tribute BiC / Ocana authentic Rustoleum.

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Well that settles it, all hail the tribu-man!
+1, he is now the righteous man!
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Originally Posted by gugie
Oh but there is. You don't see until you're checking out, and you can't check out unless you agree to it. I posted a screen shot earlier in this thread. I'll repost it here:.
Sorry, I missed the earlier thread (I have a tendency to read "bottom to top" on threads that I previously read). Thanks for correcting me Gugie.
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OP's bike is not a fake Masi, it's a replica of a fake Masi.
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Guilty as charged.
Genuine tribute BiC / Ocana authentic Rustoleum.

Get OUT!

1967!
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Originally Posted by hazetguy
and didn't he use DeRosas made up to look like Peugeots? scammer I say!
And he gave Falcon rights to use his name on a range of mid-level bikes.

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