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Old 01-24-19, 07:53 PM
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Finish tape

One of those fussy details I struggle with. Hemp is a bit too 70’s macrame for my taste; electrical tape is too modern/big box diy; crochet thread whipped can look good but often seems overly matchy. Sometimes I wrap top down just to avoid finish tape, or go bottom-up and glue the end down.
Here is my latest experiment - thin flat leather lacing that I found in the leather aisle at Michaels. It was thin enough to do a whip finish. I think I like it, at least with this Fizik tape.

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Old 01-24-19, 08:25 PM
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Very nice!

Can you detail what a whip finish entails?
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That looks pretty nice! MUCH better than electrical tape, IMHO. How do you secure the ends? I've been wrapping top-down to avoid taping the top, with some thin two-sided tape underneath to help keep it in place.
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I'm not knocking it some people get very creative with it as you have due route , but I don't understand the need . Start at the top , over lap once to lock it down finish with the end cap .


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Old 01-24-19, 08:36 PM
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I just hate the feeling of top-down. I was considering dying a couple lengths of twine black for a bike though.
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I'm not knocking it some people get very creative with it as you have due route , but I don't understand the need . Start at the top , over lap once to lock it down finish with the end cap .


IMG_0189 by mark westi, on Flickr
...not all bar tapes behave the same. and if I wrap corked tape from the top down it invariably shifts around under use. And finishing corked tape by stuffing it in the bar end and holding it in with the plug is not all that practical Works fine like you show it for cloth bar tape and some of the thinner ones, but my hands are olde and frail. My palms need cushion and comfort for longer rides.
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I'm a top down guy when I have fancy panto on the bars and stem. I haven't had a problem with unwrapping or the tape coming loose, so I go with it. But I do think the OP did a nice job on the bottom up wrap. Nice attention to detail.
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@3alarmer , the wrap shown above was my first attempt with Newbaums , man you really gotta pay attention with that stuff but I like it . Not like wrapping on the Cinelli Cork . Here is a wrap I did a while back with Fizik .
Before I realized to start with the lock wrap .


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I was going to start by saying this was a non-answer, but apparently I’m in good company. I like cloth tape and am firmly in the ‘top down’ camp. So long as you pay attention to overlap you’re good in my experience. Assuming fit is good and not too much pressure on the hands, yada yada.

Recent and fresh:


After many miles:

(edit: That’s blue Newbaum’s. Might be time for a refresh, but it’s comfy.)

I do think the OP solution is a good one. Finishing tape can be a nice way to pull some colors together as well.

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I cut the black electrical tape to 10mm wide. Looks great.

For a flip, I'll use a colored tape, 'cause newbies like it, especially girls.
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After many miles:



The length of your brake housing gives me the warm fuzzies.
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The length of your brake housing gives me the warm fuzzies.
That wasn’t the first try. Cutting it shorter later is easier than cutting it longer later.
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Originally Posted by markwesti View Post
I'm not knocking it some people get very creative with it as you have due route , but I don't understand the need . Start at the top , over lap once to lock it down finish with the end cap .


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I used to wrap my bars that way. Stopped years ago because 1) as I slide my hands down the bar to the hoods I an doing mh best to curl the upper tape edges down. (I don't slide up; I let go and re-grip.) So any bartape where the edge can be curled looks old way to soon. 2) If I want to move brake levers or replace cables, I only have to unwrap to the levers, not the whole tape job. 3) A lot of tapes don't tuck neatly into the bar end.

masi61, go to any library and take out a book on sailing knots. Whipping is as old as sailing. (Ignore the use of needles. Just start the wrap as indicated. When you get to the end of our wrap, tuck the end through the loop. Pull the other end tight, pulling the loop into the middle.) So get the book. Do a few. Soon you'll be whipping stuff just because you can and its fun.

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Old 01-24-19, 11:19 PM
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That looks nice, and I will be tempted for my next build, but will probably just do black electrical tape. Sounds silly but for me bar wrapping is just stressful, although my last one, done with fizik came out nicely
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Old 01-24-19, 11:46 PM
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Whipping is also used for replacing the line guides on a fishing pole. Dad taught me how to "whip" probably 50 years ago.
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Electrical tape too modern ?
Chatterton / electrical tape was used at least in the 20s !
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Whipping is also how every fishing fly is completed. I never thought of it for handlebar tape, but neat idea.

I'm in the electrical tape camp. Easy to use, and to me it looks great. Also, easy to re-do if need be. But I appeciate the art of other methods.
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Originally Posted by 79pmooney View Post
I used to wrap my bars that way. Stopped years ago because 1) as I slide my hands down the bar to the hoods I an doing mh best to curl the upper tape edges down. (I don't slide up; I let go and re-grip.) So any bartape where the edge can be curled looks old way to soon. 2) If I want to move brake levers or replace cables, I only have to unwrap to the levers, not the whole tape job. 3) A lot of tapes don't tuck neatly into the bar end.

masi61, go to any library and take out a book on sailing knots. Whipping is as old as sailing. (Ignore the use of needles. Just start the wrap as indicated. When you get to the end of our wrap, tuck the end through the loop. Pull the other end tight, pulling the loop into the middle.) So get the book. Do a few. Soon you'll be whipping stuff just because you can and its fun.

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I am thinking maybe a half hitch on the bottom side of each loop? It should lay reasonably flat. Just an old sailor’s thoughts.
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Originally Posted by SurferRosa View Post
I cut the black electrical tape to 10mm wide. Looks great.

For a flip, I'll use a colored tape, 'cause newbies like it, especially girls.
Hmmm... not a newbie or a girl but in my book there is nothing wrong with some colored tape.













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Not my image, but this is another concept I like.

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I've often used a contrasting color, about 1/4 inch inside the tape below it. Colored electrical tape is generally pretty cheap in multi-packs. Ever notice how really good electrical tape works better?

However, the OP can come to my house and re-finish all my wraps with that macramé.

Top down wraps don't work for me, as I spend a lot of time on the drops, and it pushes down, unwraps, peels, etc. It certainly is easier to wrap that way.
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I am also a whipped top enthusiast (wow, that could be misunderstood in the wrong forum), but I have not had success with using leather as the whip material because if it gets wet it stretches and unwraps. I use coloured synthetic string for most of my builds.

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Detailed instructions for whipping with twine (or similar) can be found readily on the Rivendell website. They promote it with cloth tape, but it works in all sorts of applications as stated above.
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Top down works OK for me if it’s cloth tape. With shellac it’s completely fine, but I like the feel of raw cloth better.
I have used waxed linen thread to whip finish; it works well and comes in a few colors.
Rootboy has done some great work using embroidery thread (I am thinking specifically of his Frejus); no surprise there.
Besides handlebars and fly rods, a whip finish is a method of preventing the end of a hemp rope from fraying.
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I acquired an original 80s era Peugeot and questioned the top, down bar wrap.

Then thanks to YouTube, there's a factory Peugeot film from the 1980s and shows the bars being wrapped from the top, down. Probably saved the factory quite a few francs.
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