Classic & Vintage This forum is to discuss the many aspects of classic and vintage bicycles, including musclebikes, lightweights, middleweights, hi-wheelers, bone-shakers, safety bikes and much more.

Got burgled today

Old 02-05-19, 04:55 PM
  #1  
dweenk 
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
dweenk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Maryland
Posts: 3,094

Bikes: 1971 Fuji Finest, Royale, S-10-S, 1976 Motobecane Mirage, 1989 Trek 330, 1100, 1970 Raleigh Sport, and more

Mentioned: 37 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 553 Post(s)
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Got burgled today

This is one experience I have not had before. My wife and I were away from home on separate errands for 65 minutes. She returned shortly before I did and smelled cigarette smoke when she unlocked the back door. Since we don't smoke, she left the house and phoned me from our detached garage. I was driving and did not see the call until I arrived about 10 minutes later. At that point, I didn't need to listen to the message because I got it from her.

I went into the house and it reeked of tobacco smoke. I found some cigarette ashes at the base of the stairs and the master bedroom ransacked - went through the house and found no one. I did a lap around the house looking for an obvious entry point and found none. The second lap revealed that the front door had been jimmied and closed as the crook left. So we called the cops.

As it stands (we're still inventorying) we are missing a few thousand dollars worth of silver coins, jewelry, and a laptop. More annoying is that we have had our passports, SSS cards, marriage license, and other non-monetary papers stolen. The most annoying artifact is that our house still smells like cigarettes.

BTW: No bikes were harmed or stolen in this incident.
__________________
"The man who does not read has no advantage over the man who cannot read." –Mark Twain
dweenk is offline  
Old 02-05-19, 04:57 PM
  #2  
bobwysiwyg 
Senior Member
 
bobwysiwyg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: 42.2808° N, 83.7430° W (A2 😉)
Posts: 1,733

Bikes: Mongoose Selous, Trek DS

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 630 Post(s)
Liked 7 Times in 6 Posts
Very sorry to hear about this.
__________________
"Skepticism is the first step in critical thinking." -- Me
bobwysiwyg is offline  
Old 02-05-19, 05:06 PM
  #3  
malcala622
Senior Member
 
malcala622's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Pico Rivera, CA
Posts: 1,853

Bikes: Bianchi Trofeo/Sport SX/Limited/Giro.Tommasini Prestige. Bottecchia Cromor. Gios Torino. Torelli Strada?

Mentioned: 54 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 482 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 5 Times in 5 Posts
Sorry to hear and hope the crooks get caught.

I have an ADT alarm as backup to my 2 pitbulls.

Last edited by malcala622; 02-05-19 at 05:13 PM.
malcala622 is offline  
Old 02-05-19, 05:14 PM
  #4  
3speedslow
Senior Member
 
3speedslow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Jacksonville, NC
Posts: 7,142

Bikes: A few

Mentioned: 90 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1184 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 9 Times in 8 Posts
The papers will be used to create new identification paper trails. Watch your credit reports. Fake identities and false tax returns on your number are a fact of life.

so sorry to read you have added this type of misery to your life experiences.
3speedslow is offline  
Old 02-05-19, 05:15 PM
  #5  
CliffordK
Senior Member
 
CliffordK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Eugene, Oregon, USA
Posts: 22,126
Mentioned: 156 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8206 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 17 Times in 15 Posts
Were there any cig butts around the house? Does the police do DNA on cig butts for home invasions?
CliffordK is offline  
Old 02-05-19, 05:22 PM
  #6  
repechage
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 13,337
Mentioned: 77 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 931 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 9 Times in 7 Posts
Extremely Unfortunate. Fortunate they were gone, an altercation would not be good. The good guys only win on TV.
The missing documents are the most unnerving. Time to place a credit freeze with all the agencies, and there is a service that will also monitor your house title. Don't want to have a thief take out a huge loan against your house.
Now I know why my wife has Three safe deposit boxes.
repechage is offline  
Old 02-05-19, 06:08 PM
  #7  
Lemond1985
Sophomore Member
 
Lemond1985's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 1,268
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 684 Post(s)
Liked 68 Times in 57 Posts
I would get some surveillance software to keep an eye on your stuff while you're gone. I use this open source program, it's free and it works great. Takes a short video clip whenever movement is detected and saves the clips for later viewing. I have it connected to a $20 webcam.

https://www.ispyconnect.com/

Supposedly you can have the program upload the saved video clips to the cloud, in case the computer itself is stolen, but I have not gotten that adventurous yet. I think if you have the program running on an old desktop computer sitting in the corner, it would likely go unnoticed, especially if the computer screen is locked, and the webcam reasonably well hidden.

I doubt people steal old desktop computers much these days, or that's my hope anyway. You can connect multiple webcams if you want, I love this software, it's the best freeware I have found in quite some time.
Lemond1985 is offline  
Old 02-05-19, 06:14 PM
  #8  
2cam16
Senior Member
 
2cam16's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: San Mateo,Ca.
Posts: 2,485

Bikes: TOO MANY

Mentioned: 35 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 561 Post(s)
Liked 10 Times in 8 Posts
Holy crap.
2cam16 is offline  
Old 02-05-19, 06:32 PM
  #9  
noobinsf 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Oakland, CA
Posts: 1,102

Bikes: '04 Felt SR91, '82 Univega Competizione, '72 Motobecane Grand Record, '72 Puch Bergmeister

Mentioned: 27 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 289 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Ugh, awful. So sorry to hear about this. I don’t have any advice to add, just glad you’re ok.
noobinsf is offline  
Old 02-05-19, 06:38 PM
  #10  
since6 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Lacey, WA
Posts: 1,315

Bikes: Stevenson Custom, Stevenson Custom Tandem, Nishiki Professional

Mentioned: 22 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 262 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
So sorry to hear, but glad you are all safe.

In addition to what others have said when things calm down talk with the local police and sheriff's office about there Neighborhood watch program. Then invite them to come into your neighborhood to set one up.

Sadly even if we live in an urban/suburban setting, we all seem to live alone these days. No one knows anyone they live next door to. This is a mistake. The greatest security isn't a security camera or security company, the greatest security is a community of people who know each other, each other's cars, kids cars and learn from law enforcement how to keep a watch on their neighborhood. Burglary and in general crime depends on no one noticing. That little blue "Neighborhood Watch" sign entering and leaving your neighborhood tells a criminal people are watching and there's a risk to canvassing and hitting this neighborhood. Also being part of a neighborhood watch takes away the sense of helplessness and empowers you and your neighbors.
since6 is online now  
Old 02-05-19, 06:40 PM
  #11  
jamesdak
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Utah
Posts: 5,270

Bikes: G.L. Maillot Juane & Ventoux,Schwinn Circuit, Prologue,PDG Paramount,Paramount,Tempo,Jake The Snake,LeMond Zurich & Tourmelet,Giordana XL Super & Antares,Puegeot U08,Bob Jackson,Fuji S12-S,Opus III,Orbea Cabestany,Bianchi Campione,Basso Gap

Mentioned: 81 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1127 Post(s)
Liked 34 Times in 19 Posts
Originally Posted by Lemond1985 View Post
I would get some surveillance software to keep an eye on your stuff while you're gone. I use this open source program, it's free and it works great. Takes a short video clip whenever movement is detected and saves the clips for later viewing. I have it connected to a $20 webcam.

https://www.ispyconnect.com/

Supposedly you can have the program upload the saved video clips to the cloud, in case the computer itself is stolen, but I have not gotten that adventurous yet. I think if you have the program running on an old desktop computer sitting in the corner, it would likely go unnoticed, especially if the computer screen is locked, and the webcam reasonably well hidden.

I doubt people steal old desktop computers much these days, or that's my hope anyway. You can connect multiple webcams if you want, I love this software, it's the best freeware I have found in quite some time.
Be very, very cautious with any webcams. A good many are designed to send images off shore without you knowing and even if you think you've restricted the camera.
jamesdak is offline  
Old 02-05-19, 06:53 PM
  #12  
PilotFishBob 
Uh, wait... What?
 
PilotFishBob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Memphis, TN
Posts: 767

Bikes: A ridiculous number

Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 258 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
I use IP cams and an open source app, "ZoneMinder", it's set up to email and text me based on criteria I've entered. I'm paranoid about privacy so I can speak to it's compliance on that - Us linux guys are paranoid by nature, and I'm a Linux pro. That said, ZoneMinder is pretty easy for the layman to set up. Main thing is what others have said above re your credit and identity. However, the intruders have seen what you have and you should take precautions against a repeat visit. I live in Memphis - I've had three burglary attempts on my house in the 15 years I've lived here, and I live in a nice neighborhood. Combination of a monitored alarm system, very good locks and cam surveillance has made the difference, and I get an insurance rate break due to all of that.

Last edited by PilotFishBob; 02-05-19 at 06:58 PM.
PilotFishBob is offline  
Old 02-05-19, 07:00 PM
  #13  
Gary64 
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Springfield,Ohio
Posts: 28

Bikes: 2005 Trek 7.5fx,2015 Trek domane 2,2008 Gary Fisher hi fi deluxe,1985 Miyata 610,1981 Trek 710

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Sorry to hear.Have to keep on alert for identity theft!
Gary64 is offline  
Old 02-05-19, 07:13 PM
  #14  
Lemond1985
Sophomore Member
 
Lemond1985's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 1,268
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 684 Post(s)
Liked 68 Times in 57 Posts
Originally Posted by jamesdak View Post
Be very, very cautious with any webcams. A good many are designed to send images off shore without you knowing and even if you think you've restricted the camera.
Probably true, that's why I only use the program on computers not connected to the net. Which should work, unless someone placed a tiny cell phone in there to "phone home" and steal my video clips, which I kind of doubt would happen with such a cheap piece of hardware, but who knows. You can never be too paranoid these days, I suppose.
Lemond1985 is offline  
Old 02-05-19, 07:21 PM
  #15  
xetaprime
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Florida
Posts: 175
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 62 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
So very sorry to hear that! My home was robbed years ago. I still have nightmares about people breaking in. Wishing you all the best.
xetaprime is offline  
Old 02-05-19, 08:29 PM
  #16  
jamesdak
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Utah
Posts: 5,270

Bikes: G.L. Maillot Juane & Ventoux,Schwinn Circuit, Prologue,PDG Paramount,Paramount,Tempo,Jake The Snake,LeMond Zurich & Tourmelet,Giordana XL Super & Antares,Puegeot U08,Bob Jackson,Fuji S12-S,Opus III,Orbea Cabestany,Bianchi Campione,Basso Gap

Mentioned: 81 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1127 Post(s)
Liked 34 Times in 19 Posts
Originally Posted by Lemond1985 View Post
Probably true, that's why I only use the program on computers not connected to the net. Which should work, unless someone placed a tiny cell phone in there to "phone home" and steal my video clips, which I kind of doubt would happen with such a cheap piece of hardware, but who knows. You can never be too paranoid these days, I suppose.
LOL, well you can be but if your camera's are hardwired in and your off the net you should be safe.

Now excuse me while I go make a new tinfoil cap.
jamesdak is offline  
Old 02-05-19, 08:49 PM
  #17  
clubman 
Youngman Grand
 
clubman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Nova Scotia
Posts: 5,389

Bikes: roadsters, club bikes, fixed and classic

Mentioned: 81 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 925 Post(s)
Liked 5 Times in 5 Posts
It's a real violation to have someone be in your house and steal valuables. So sorry this happened to you. Kudos to your wife for getting out of there to make the call.

Sounds like someone was watching you leave. Nothing worse than a thief.
clubman is offline  
Old 02-05-19, 08:56 PM
  #18  
The Golden Boy 
Extraordinary Magnitude
 
The Golden Boy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Waukesha WI
Posts: 11,128

Bikes: 1977 Trek TX700; 1978/79 Trek 736; 1984 Specialized Stumpjumper Sport; 1984 Schwinn Voyageur SP; 1985 Trek 620; 1985 Trek 720; 1986 Trek 400 Elance; 1987 Schwinn High Sierra; 1990 Miyata 1000LT

Mentioned: 70 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1610 Post(s)
Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts
So sorry, and I'm glad you're OK.

Hopefully you can get the credit stuff stopped- and hope you can recover your valuables.


Last year, or the year before, I was spraying for bugs outside- it was around dusk... The neighbor (a 6'6" big guy) from across the street says "hey, can I help you" and he's doing the full-on drill sergeant walk across the street- then he realized it was me... I watch out for my neighbors' packages, (I'll take them to the back door and send texts to them) and do keep an eye out for anything suspicious.
__________________
*Recipient of the 2006 Time Magazine "Person Of The Year" Award*

Commence to jigglin’ huh?!?!

"But hey, always love to hear from opinionated amateurs." -says some guy to Mr. Marshall.
The Golden Boy is offline  
Old 02-05-19, 10:29 PM
  #19  
dmp
'84 and '09 Pinarellos
 
dmp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 388

Bikes: '84 Pinarello Record Equipe rebuilt with Campy Chorus/ Record; 2009 Pinarello Paris/ Campy SR 11sp; Litespeed Tuscany (under construction)

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I'm so sorry to hear this- thankfully you were not home and are safe. The best of luck to you in dealing with the missing documents. This is just horrible.
dmp is offline  
Old 02-05-19, 10:40 PM
  #20  
Jeff Wills
Insane Bicycle Mechanic
 
Jeff Wills's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: other Vancouver
Posts: 8,914
Mentioned: 22 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 412 Post(s)
Liked 7 Times in 5 Posts
Originally Posted by since6 View Post
So sorry to hear, but glad you are all safe.

In addition to what others have said when things calm down talk with the local police and sheriff's office about there Neighborhood watch program. Then invite them to come into your neighborhood to set one up.

Sadly even if we live in an urban/suburban setting, we all seem to live alone these days. No one knows anyone they live next door to. This is a mistake. The greatest security isn't a security camera or security company, the greatest security is a community of people who know each other, each other's cars, kids cars and learn from law enforcement how to keep a watch on their neighborhood. Burglary and in general crime depends on no one noticing. That little blue "Neighborhood Watch" sign entering and leaving your neighborhood tells a criminal people are watching and there's a risk to canvassing and hitting this neighborhood. Also being part of a neighborhood watch takes away the sense of helplessness and empowers you and your neighbors.
Truth. I know most of my neighbors and they know me and my wife. Most of them are retirees so they look after the neighborhood.
__________________
Jeff Wills

Comcast nuked my web page. It will return soon..
Jeff Wills is offline  
Old 02-05-19, 11:17 PM
  #21  
Vintage_Cyclist
Senior Member
 
Vintage_Cyclist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Big Apple
Posts: 1,229

Bikes: yes

Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 315 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by CliffordK View Post
Were there any cig butts around the house? Does the police do DNA on cig butts for home invasions?
They can and should. I would look in the house and garage as well as outside the house for any butts.

The master bedroom is usually the focus point of a burglary, because that is where people are most likely to have valuables. The burglars want to get in and out fast, so they usually make a beeline right for the master. It's a good idea to consider storing valuable items in other areas of the house.
Vintage_Cyclist is offline  
Old 02-06-19, 12:21 AM
  #22  
noglider 
aka Tom Reingold
 
noglider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: West Village, New York City
Posts: 36,861

Bikes: 1962 Rudge Sports, 1971 Raleigh Super Course, 1971 Raleigh Pro Track, 1973 Raleigh Twenty, 1974 Raleigh International, 1975 Viscount Fixie, 1982 McLean, 1996 Lemond (Ti), 2002 Burley Zydeco tandem

Mentioned: 407 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5231 Post(s)
Liked 16 Times in 16 Posts
This has happened to me. It's an awful feeling to have your valuables taken and to have your sense of safety violated. It's the worst.
__________________
Tom Reingold, tom@noglider.com
New York City and High Falls, NY
Blogs: The Experienced Cyclist; noglider's ride blog

“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author

Please email me rather than PM'ing me. Thanks.
noglider is offline  
Old 02-06-19, 12:22 AM
  #23  
CliffordK
Senior Member
 
CliffordK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Eugene, Oregon, USA
Posts: 22,126
Mentioned: 156 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8206 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 17 Times in 15 Posts
Hard to say what the police will/would/did do.

Several thousand dollars worth of items stolen. Plus apparently targeting identity theft. This could be part of a pretty serious crime spree.

But, "prints" may be tracked, but DNA may not be tracked for non-violent crimes. Gloves? Still, if any butts were left... they should be collected by the police.

I'm glad to hear that nobody was physically hurt. It sounds like you may have just missed the thief.

Leaving the house and calling you was probably appropriate. But your wife should have also called the police once she determined something was wrong and was afraid to enter the house herself.
CliffordK is offline  
Old 02-06-19, 01:35 AM
  #24  
smontanaro 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Evanston, IL
Posts: 3,244

Bikes: many

Mentioned: 28 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 409 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by 3speedslow View Post
The papers will be used to create new identification paper trails. Watch your credit reports.
I would go further and suggest you freeze your credit files, if you haven't already done so. I think this is a pretty common feature of the credit reporting landscape since the Equifax snafu. In fact, such services might be required by law now.
smontanaro is offline  
Old 02-06-19, 10:34 AM
  #25  
Vintage_Cyclist
Senior Member
 
Vintage_Cyclist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Big Apple
Posts: 1,229

Bikes: yes

Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 315 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
But, "prints" may be tracked, but DNA may not be tracked for non-violent crimes. Gloves? Still, if any butts were left... they should be collected by the police.
Burglary is considered a pretty heavy crime. In most, if not all, states, homeowners are even justified in the law to use deadly physical force against a burglar in their dwelling. There's now a nationwide DNA database for convicted criminals (just like the fingerprint database) and there's always a good chance that somebody committing a burglary already has a criminal record. So if DNA is found at a crime scene, it can help find a suspect, as well as provide evidence at trial that the suspect was at the scene.

Additionally, since we are all living in a Big Brother universe, DNA 'services' (such as 23 and Me) provide access to law enforcement to search DNA results. This can allow for DNA hits on service-using relatives of a suspect, which can then be used to hunt down the subject.

About twenty years back, I came home from work and had a burglar still in the house, he broke out my back window to get away. He didn't get much, but trashed the house rifling through drawers and closets. It was a heavily raining day and the guy had hit at least six other houses in the neighborhood during the work day. He got arrested for shoplifting a few months later and admitted to doing burglaries too, the detectives drove him around and he pointed out all the houses he hit. The guy was a one man crime wave, all to buy drugs.

Since then, I've taken to leaving an old, broken laptop in an old laptop bag leaning against the TV cabinet, to provide an incentive to make a quick score and leave. Haven't gotten hit again though.
Vintage_Cyclist is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.