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Old 03-18-19, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 3speedslow
Forgot to ask, one member here had a Norman. He decided to build a daily set of wheels for it and use the original for special rides. Is this your thinking or just stick with one wheelset?
I think every ride on this old beauty will be a "special" ride so one wheelset should suffice. Part of its value to me is to be able to take it for a spin at a moments notice. The old Brampton rear hub cleaned up nicely as well.
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Found some online pictures of a Royal Nord Commander that looks similar to the RN President. No other info. Looks very nice!
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Aaah. That satisfied feeling that comes with a smooth bottom bracket rebuild and a carefully filed cotter. I liked setting up the BB with the clamp bolts then the lock nut. No change in bearing clearance when the lock ring is tightened.
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Originally Posted by Munny
I can be wrong but there is something special in the naming of your bike that can also point to early fifties.
As you may know, Belgium is a kingdom.
Kingdoms have no "president" but a king.
This regime was choosen at the time the country was put together because all the neighbours were also kingdoms, including France.

This is reflected in the brand name "Royal Nord".
So why a President when the brand name includes Royal ?


Early fifties is a special moment over here.
There were questions to change the political regime.
The actual king was impeached and his son only became king after a delay.
The population was strongly devided on the kingdom question and we were short of becoming a republic.

Because of that I could see the "president" name as linked to that period and also a way to please the opposed customers
Thank you for that. I never realized it was that big an issue BITD. Bit before my time, too.

WRT the name: as there apparently was also a Commander in the line-up, it might not be related, but rather a marketing choice similar to Opel's. At the time their line-up of cars featured the KAD models: Kapitän, Admiral and Diplomat.
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That is an outstanding bicycle. Everything from the EXCEPTIONAL marbled finish, the conspicuous head badge and decaling, and the alloy parts... Wow!

I don't know a whole lot about mid-century bicycles- but from what I do know- that sure looks like a really classy machine- and you're doing a great job with it!
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The Brampton Speedy Switch is larger and almost double the weight of a typical Sturmey Archer of the period. The hub appears to different as well with the threaded cog. I have flushed the hub and will not be dismantling it at this time.
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Ordered these Vredestein Active Tour in 40-635 for the Royal Nord President. Now we wait.
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This is an incredibly cool bike. The paint and lining are stunning. Thanks for sharing the process!
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Beautiful bike, I have Schwalbe Cruiser tires on 2 bikes with 635 ERTO rims. Very nice tires and smooth ride.
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Is there a chance that this bike might have a different thread pitch on the seemingly 9/16" pedals. The original JRC pedals are very brittle and I ordered a set of new MKS rubber block pedals. When I tried to install a set of Raleigh type pedals, they started to bind about half way inserted. A friend suggested I run a tap through it, but I don't want to take a chance and ruin the beautiful crank set.
The tubes in the tires still hold air and have no patches. Both are Dunlop Air Seal Made in Canada with metal stems. The tires were Dunlop Imperial Made in Canada. They appear to be original. The rubber is hard and cracked on the tires but the tubes feel like new, but twice as thick as modern ones. One tire got shipped, and the other is lost somewhere where between Canada and the UK.
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Have you considered taking the new pedal blocks off and putting them to work on the original pedal frame?
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Originally Posted by 3speedslow
Have you considered taking the new pedal blocks off and putting them to work on the original pedal frame?
It is a good idea and had not considered until now. The only block pedals I have are slightly too short and there is more rust than I like on the old pedals. I haven't done it yet but I think I will retap. The number one priority with all my old bikes is that they are nice riding condition. If they sit too long not ridden, I tend to put them up for sale. Looks like you have had a good spring with two folders!
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Presenting Another Royal Nord President

This amazing Royal Nord President belongs to @Ronbo Fomby and he has asked me to post them for him. He has family documentation showing it to be pre fifties! Hope to see more pics soon. Seeing the similarities of this bike with mine is making me think mine could well be fifties as well.






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A Tale of Trying Tires:
The 28 x 1 1/2 markings on the Dunlop Imperials and Dunlop Air Seal tubes seemed familiar to someone versed in Raleigh Roadsters. It did not occur to me that all was not as it seemed.

I made the assumption it was 40-635 (28 x 1 1/2). I guess you know what happened next. After weeks of scouring the market for 40-635 tires and ordering two, one of which still has not arrived (carton1 of 2, shipped in mid march) A local mobile shop had one Schwalbe Marathon which I also purchased. Had time today to try mounting up a tire. It slipped right over the rim! Did some research and measurement and find that it is likely 700C. Off to the LBS with the front rim to try one and indeed it is a 40-622 (700c) rim. Who knew? He will order something for me when I find what I want.
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I love it when you update your thread.” A tale of two tires” huh?
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Here in Belgium, for the local market, manufacturers used 2 dimensions of tyres
700C and 650C
I insist on the C : No 650B (French ), no 650A (Dutch)
The 650C disapeared in the sixties

However, when exported, it happened that local dimensions might have been used
For instance some Belgian brands used 27" in US
And very early tyres could have been of a different size (I still have 2 NOS set of 700X35B)

The 650C allowed them to used very large tyres for the same diameter (650X50C)
I'm currently out of stock for 650C tyres (3 bikes using them - a Family Bekaert, a Van Hauwaert and a Bury)

Because of my various earlier bikes, I'm very surprised of the blue "pre fifties president" presented above.
The single speed torpedo doesn't fit well with a top of range version.
Mostly these were using early Sturmey with the quadrant selector and drums.
Also, the crocodile paterned mudguard and chain guard did not appear before the late sixties
If that bike has been restored, the decals are likely not the ones of the original bikes and it could have been another version

(Sorry but some of the US over-restorations are .... well, I'll have to stop...)
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After finding the shaft on the JRC left pedal was slightly bent, my decision was made. I stopped by my local LBS and once again borrowed his 9/16" right and left pedal taps. The well oiled (and well used) taps did a nice job and a standard pedal thread now threads in easily. Surprisingly the old French thread pedals also went in the newly tapped holes.

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Great day today! Took my first ride on the RN President. Feels light fast and smooth. Perhaps in the future I will find a larger rear cog to lower the gearing a bit but the feel of this carefully built bicycle is something to behold.



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Some more photos of the Royal Nord. Still working on a custom painted bell and some other small details.



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Originally Posted by browngw
This amazing Royal Nord President belongs to @Ronbo Fomby and he has asked me to post them for him. He has family documentation showing it to be pre fifties! Hope to see more pics soon. Seeing the similarities of this bike with mine is making me think mine could well be fifties as well.


The pattern on the fenders and chain case is so cool.
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Originally Posted by browngw
After finding the shaft on the JRC left pedal was slightly bent, my decision was made. I stopped by my local LBS and once again borrowed his 9/16" right and left pedal taps. The well oiled (and well used) taps did a nice job and a standard pedal thread now threads in easily. Surprisingly the old French thread pedals also went in the newly tapped holes.
Surprise!
In Belgium we use BSC threads. We like to stay away from the french cycling excentricity
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Finally a break in the weather allowed me to make the 100km trip to pick up the Belgium Royal Nord President ...
Don't know if any of this will be of help, but ...


Some information on Royal Nord.

A Royal Nord President was auctioned in 2017 and was claimed to be a 1920s model: https://www.invaluable.com/auction-l...7-c-7a34640a51 .

The President: a ’30s jewel ready for a second youth @ Cycloscope.


A Wikipedia entry for Royal Nord BVBA, which apparently began business in 1927 and ceased operations in 2011. They seem to be best known for their motorized bikes (mopeds). It's unclear (to me, at least) from this article how long they continued making and selling their bicycles.

https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Nord . No telling whether someone is around who has records from the business.

From the Wikipedia article, roughly translated from Dutch to English via Babylon NG:

History Jean Hufkens initially worked at Gillet, but soon went bicycle sales in Hasselt. In 1927 he himself. When the company began to grow, his brothers, and Achille Henri Hubert, Gaston to join him. Jean and Achille reason matches with saroléa and Gillet Engines. The brothers Hufkens were soon dealer of Gillet Motorcycles. In 1931 the brothers started to produce self-motorcycles.

In fact, this is the first time that the company badge-engineering. That would be in the years happen often. The first Royal Nords were bicycles with a 100cc auxiliary motor and light 125cc motorcycles. All of Gillet and virtually indistinguishable. In 1933 followed a 175cc version.

In 1935 changed the company name NV Brothers Hufkens, but Hubert and Henri left the firm. After the Second World War, and in 1951 presented the production by Royal Nord motorised tandems and mopeds. In 1952, there were 125 and 150cc models-blocks from Gillet, Kim and ILO, in 1953 also a Kim of 175 cc. The Kim Taifun 400 was from 1954 as "Royal Nord 400" sold.

This machine was almost nice of ugliness, equipped with an excessive amount of sheet-metal work and huge fenders. However, most customers found him ugly of ugliness and the machine turned out to be virtually unsaleable. In 1955, the Kim 250 as Royal Nord. That looked a lot easier and the sale was therefore better. Mopeds Royal Nord-mopeds in the late 1950s, when the motorcycle sales already collapsed, founded Royal Nord is mainly focused on the production of mopeds.

We had by that one could look for a smooth design better to Italy and the mopeds seemed strongly on that of Itom. Royal Nord gave really smooth sports mopeds with the well-known 180°-fenders, but also "Use mopeds" with leggings to protect the driver against the weather.

They had their own 50cc motor blocks. The mopeds sold so well that even plants in the Belgian Congo (now Kinshasa) and Elisabeth City in Leopold City (now Lubumbashi) were set up. In addition, the now ailing Belgian brands FN and Gillet now Royal Nord-mopeds in license. 1960 was a bad year for Royal Nord.

Jean Hufkens crashed in a car accident, and in addition, the Belgian Congo independent, which result in a large part of the market fell. We tried with the production of lawn mowers keep their heads above water. The arrival of Honda moped on the Belgian market was a second hit. I sold Royal Nord - also in The Netherlands - more mopeds than one could produce, and that despite a relatively high price.

A major reason for the purchase was that a Royal Nord harder than the kreidlers of the Germans in large numbers in the week end from the Ruhr Area to the Eindhoven region. The importer for The Netherlands, as far as i know, the "Hump" raaymakers on the Provenciale Road in More Veldhoven. In 1967, the moped production, but the Royal Nord-bicycle trade in Hasselt. The shop was run by the brothers Freddy and Marc Hufkens.

One could still buy bicycles and mopeds, however not more of the brand Royal Nord. At the end of 2011 stopped the brothers with the affair, which would then be demolished.
I've no idea if it's the same gentleman mentioned in the Wikipedia article, but there's a Marc Hufkens who is Chairman of the Flanders Bike Valley group in Belgium. Might be worth reaching out to him to see if he's the same guy (or related) and if there are any records or further information about the old bike. Even if it's not the same man, perhaps being in the area he'd be able to point you in the right direction.
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Originally Posted by Clyde1820
Don't know if any of this will be of help, but ...


Some information on Royal Nord.

A Royal Nord President was auctioned in 2017 and was claimed to be a 1920s model: https://www.invaluable.com/auction-l...7-c-7a34640a51 .

The President: a ’30s jewel ready for a second youth @ Cycloscope.


A Wikipedia entry for Royal Nord BVBA, which apparently began business in 1927 and ceased operations in 2011. They seem to be best known for their motorized bikes (mopeds). It's unclear (to me, at least) from this article how long they continued making and selling their bicycles.

https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Nord . No telling whether someone is around who has records from the business.

From the Wikipedia article, roughly translated from Dutch to English via Babylon NG:



I've no idea if it's the same gentleman mentioned in the Wikipedia article, but there's a Marc Hufkens who is Chairman of the Flanders Bike Valley group in Belgium. Might be worth reaching out to him to see if he's the same guy (or related) and if there are any records or further information about the old bike. Even if it's not the same man, perhaps being in the area he'd be able to point you in the right direction.
Thanks for the information. I had seen some of it, but not the 2017 auction material. What a beautiful old bike!
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The Royal Nord made it to the 2019 Canadian Vintage Bicycle Show where it received a lot of attention (but didn't win an award).
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