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Old 02-07-19, 10:09 PM
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Glad you're ok, as well. This week has not been a good week for city traffic. I was bumped at a light yesterday morning as the sun was at absolute maximum blinding angle (plus the glare off the wet road etc)--and I didn't have a windshield to worsen my vision! The lady had stopped behind me and was creeping forward and bumped me. She was thankfully apologetic, and the only casualty was my dremel-cut-up cheap plastic $5 fender (been meaning to replace it with something prettier) that broke in its weakest part (under duct tape, so I straightened and still rode it. That was a nice notification to avoid the road at all costs during that blinding hour and just use a segregated two-way cycle path a block over. The fender is mended, and I told her not to worry--I've bumped other drivers with my bike to no detriment of either of us or our property, and they've been gracious. This was a chance to return it, especially as a ride off a curb gives one's backside a lot more of a jolt.

Usually BMWs are the ones without functioning turn signals. Tonight it was a late model VW Golf or GTI, tinted frickin' windows (I hate tinted windows as a driver and as a cyclist--can't see crap!), and a busted taillight bulb. Three/four lane one way traffic up a main artery in downtown, medium traffic, 15-20 mph, my front wheel just eclipsed his bumper laterally and the driver just shoots over into my lane. Both brakes on hard, locked the rear and swerved with room to spare. Not cool, VW driver.

Soon it won't be so dang cold and I won't be on slow and lower-inflated (for snow/ice grip) CX tires--my acceleration and fast cruising speed are affected enough that it's just outside of normal traffic flow, which I dislike as in-the-flow = generally fine and out-of-the-flow = potentially quite hazardous. I should just take that 2nd Avenue protected bike lane more on the way back. It's actually a nice break from the mayhem. I'll just need to break my main 4th Avenue habit.
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Old 02-07-19, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 05 fuji View Post
Your luck did not run out - you are ok!

Keep the luck going!
+1!

I used to HATE lying in a hospital bed surrounded by well-meaning relatives telling me how "lucky" I was, but any time you walk away from a totalled two-wheeler, you drink a toast to your outrageously good fortune.
Hang those damaged bike parts on your garage wall as a reminder how lucky you are. When you have amputated limbs hanging up there, then you can complain about your luck running out.
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Old 02-07-19, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Bianchigirll View Post
People are idiots. Glad your OK.
Does that include people who ride bikes? Just checking...
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Old 02-07-19, 11:07 PM
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Nice idea but I would be VERY much bothered with that strobe flashing while riding.
Me too, but some creative taping could block the light from your view while still making it visible from behind and the left.
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Old 02-07-19, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by SurferRosa View Post
While in the right hand bike lane, I can't tell you how many times the car directly in front of me turned right without its signal. I never pass a car on its right if it's possible they could cut me off.
Ditto. And I never cross a four-way intersection without making eye contact with the drivers also at the intersection.
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Old 02-08-19, 05:38 AM
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I've been contemplating some sort of reinforced pool noodle with a blinky attached to the end for when I'm hauling my kid. I've already got a full size slow vehicle triangle on the trailer, which I think registers with drivers in farm country.
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Old 02-08-19, 06:17 AM
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Glad you're OK. Statistically, with obvious precautions, you're less likely to get bumped again...
Take care out there!
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Old 02-08-19, 06:26 AM
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As mentioned before, I never pass a car on the right(when nearing an intersection or turn in). If they seem like they're turning right, I'll take the lane behind them and go around their left. I've had people try to turn into me before just as you did. Ya gotta be proactive about the jerks in cars. 60% of them shouldn't have a license.
Seconded. Slowing down is what I watch for, I don't even bother to look at turn signals any more. The safest place to be around any slowing vehicle is directly behind them, because you never know which way they'll turn, but they're probably gonna turn somewhere soon. And keeping an eye out behind you so you don't end up being the meat in a two-car-sandwich is also helpful, since there's no guarantee that the car behind you noticed that the car in front of you is slowing.

Fortunately, the more traffic there is on city streets, there is a tendency for cars to react a little more slowly and predictably. I tend to have more problems in light city traffic (e.g., Sunday mornings) than in heavy city traffic. YMMV.
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Old 02-08-19, 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by RiddleOfSteel View Post
The lady had stopped behind me and was creeping forward and bumped me.
I wonder what would change if it got around that this was assault and battery with a deadly weapon, with jail time and a felony conviction on their record? Would cyclists and pedestrians and kids get more respect? Would drivers pay more attention?

Too many judges saying "oh you poor dear! Honest mistake. No harm done. That guy shouldn't be playing in the street anyway."

Interesting argument, given the increasing annual slaughter on our roads, if some submit that a motor vehicle is NOT a deadly weapon.
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Old 02-08-19, 07:10 AM
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I saw some Ultegra 6703 shifters on E-Bay recently. $150, including rear long cage derailleur.
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Old 02-08-19, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Prowler View Post


I wonder what would change if it got around that this was assault and battery with a deadly weapon, with jail time and a felony conviction on their record? Would cyclists and pedestrians and kids get more respect? Would drivers pay more attention?

Too many judges saying "oh you poor dear! Honest mistake. No harm done. That guy shouldn't be playing in the street anyway."

Interesting argument, given the increasing annual slaughter on our roads, if some submit that a motor vehicle is NOT a deadly weapon.
Are you talking about a stop and bump completely isolated of blinding sunlight condition where she couldn't see me? Because that's not what happened.
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Old 02-08-19, 11:21 AM
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This is why I am happy that soon we will all have robot cars. The robots will know where they are going and use their signals.

around here even (especially? ) the cops don't signal: and they like to be "unexpected" so they will go half way int to the intersection, then suddenly cut right - or left- and I have been nearly killed. When its a cop car I always stay far away.
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Old 02-08-19, 10:27 PM
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This is why I am happy that soon we will all have robot cars. The robots will know where they are going and use their signals.

around here even (especially? ) the cops don't signal: and they like to be "unexpected" so they will go half way int to the intersection, then suddenly cut right - or left- and I have been nearly killed. When its a cop car I always stay far away.
Huh. The cops don't signal here either half the time, but at least they aren't that sporadic. That would suck extra hard, because then not only would you get hit by a car, but it's automatically your fault when it comes down to you and a cop. So what, you get hit and then get a made up citation for something to clarify that it wasn't the cops fault? Talk about a bad day...
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Old 02-08-19, 11:42 PM
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Americans have conditioned each other and themselves to not use turn signals. I've driven all over the US and in most cities a turn signal means "Please speed up and cut me off so I can't turn or merge safely." Inevitably drivers won't signal.

Also, too many drivers are barely aware that they're driving a multi-ton battering ram at high speed. They wait until the last possible moment to decide to turn, change lanes to stop. One of my best friends seems to be so easily distracted that I dare not talk while she's driving. I'm even tempted to turn off her car radio. ...
unfortunate but true. way back in driver's training you were told to signal 1/4 mile before changing lanes on the freeway... if you did that in Southern California, one could Never change lanes, the cars would keep passing and swooping in front. There are a lot of drivers who slow down to change lanes?! so, move over when down on speed and momentum... Brilliant! ( sarcastic tone implied)... My first new car had radio delete, never put in one, keep focused on the task, a manual transmission too, think to drive, not daydream and drive.

Rant over. Locally there was a big brouhaha when the signs went up to advise that bicyclists should be passed with three feet clear. It was comical and tragic, especially when State law now mandates that.

The strobe taillamps with the variable pattern strobe effect are the most effective to keep drivers clear. In the front I use one steady headlight and one set to strobe. Drivers acknowledge the flashing light.

I'm in the camp of only bike part damage? you were riding with lady luck.
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Old 02-09-19, 12:28 AM
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I don't have any problem saying that as adults age the driver competence testing needs to be stricter and more frequent. I've been the caregiver for three consecutive older family members since the early 1990s -- both grandparents, 10 years apart, and most recently my mom until her death in November. Fortunately my mom voluntarily gave up driving years earlier when she recognized that her physical and mental capacities had diminished -- she had limited mobility and flexibility due to arthritis and back injuries, and Alzheimer's. My granddad insisted on driving until he simply could no longer climb in and out of a vehicle (bad knee, and his knee replacement never healed properly because he refused to do any physical therapy). My grandmother drove until her mid-80s, by which time I took over chauffeur duties.

At 61 now, I recognize that my physical abilities are diminishing, enough that I probably won't be able to drive safely by the time I'm in my 70s. I barely passed my last drivers test because an old neck injury hindered my ability to turn my head to look behind me. I used the mirrors instead. I've worked hard on PT and can now turn my head to look over my shoulder while riding bikes, so I'm less dependent on mirrors. But it won't get better with age.

Americans are big on personal rights and liberties and not very enthusiastic about personal responsibility and liability. It shows every time we're behind the wheel of our multi-ton battering rams. It shows in the horrific death toll caused by motor vehicles, particularly affecting pedestrians.

I see nothing wrong with scrutinizing older drivers more closely with age. The problem is that alternative transportation will be necessary. And older Americans tend to resist taxes to fund public transportation. That leaves taxis, charitable organizations that provide rides to medical appointments and essential shopping, and family and friends.
I hate to admit it but I don't think I am as good a driver as I once was. Quick decisions aren't as quick as they once were and although I think I still do ok in familiar areas I struggle in places that I don't know. One thing I am better at is spotting cyclists and knowing what the options are for them. If the upcoming road is rough I expect them to take the lane. When passing them in a area where cars are parked I give them room to move over so they won't be doored. I hope I have enough sense to quit driving when I am no longer able to be safe but in our current culture I don't know if that's possible.
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Originally Posted by 05 fuji View Post
Your luck did not run out - you are ok!

Keep the luck going!
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Wow...i hadnt thought of it that way.. You're right. Thanks
Just the fact you're here talking about it, and asking for parts...

I'm glad you're OK and glad your bike is mostly OK.
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Originally Posted by calamarichris View Post
Hang those damaged bike parts on your garage wall as a reminder how lucky you are. When you have amputated limbs hanging up there, then you can complain about your luck running out.
Whenever I have bodies or body parts up there, it starts smelling... Apparently, the neighbors that are left like to complain... the police start nosing around asking annoying questions...
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Does that include people who ride bikes? Just checking...
oh yeah. We all know there are attentive drivers and riders and ones who are just clueless and frankly don’t care about anyone or anything. Although I must admit I try and be extra cautious around people riding broken down Huffys and regular street clothes in the winter. Odds are life dealt them a bad hand somewhere.
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That's one of the downsides to riding in street clothes during winter. Everyone assumes I'm homeless. I'm one paycheck away from homelessness, thank you very much.
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oh yeah. We all know there are attentive drivers and riders and ones who are just clueless and frankly don’t care about anyone or anything. Although I must admit I try and be extra cautious around people riding broken down Huffys and regular street clothes in the winter. Odds are life dealt them a bad hand somewhere.
I agree with you. A lot of the people I see riding are farmworkers on their way to or from work, or people who cannot afford all the costs related to car ownership, or peple who, like you wrote, are down on their luck.

Most of us here at BF ride for fun and recreation,; many others, however, ride out of necessity.
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Consider yourself invisiable

Ride like you are invisiable to drivers because YOU ARE, the last thing they have in their mind is a bicycle. Always wear bright clothes, use fashing lights front and back day and night. AND NEVER TRUST DRIVERS TO SEE YOU OR OBEY TRAFFIC LAWS, ESPECIALLY LAWS ABOUT CARS RELATED TO BICYCLES.
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To repeat everyone's well wishes... I'm glad your good to go. Several things make me afraid to go out on the road. I'm sure it should stop me but I'm glad it won't. Two years ago they put a stop light in at a T intersection with a left-hand turning lane. A year after it was in (so I knew the drivers were used to it by now) a truck driver made that left hand turn against the light and I shouted at him because he had cut me off... he looked up from his phone just to give me the finger... and then - back down to the phone. It's a shame that some of these creeps can reproduce.
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Very glad you live to ride another day!! Some are not so lucky

I used to ride a motorcycle (Triumph Bonneville - 650) as my main vehicle (mainly college days). I sold it after my 1st child was born because I didn't want to put myself at risk to my family.

I came very close to becoming a statistic too many times that I care to think about (and a couple of times with a passenger riding with me), mostly due to a driver's stupidity, a willful disregard for my safety or, occasionally, a lack of awareness. So here's what I learned in the short time I owned the bike (and now apply to my bicycle riding habits):

1. Always, always assume that a driver either doesn't see you or doesn't care that you're there (even if you know they see you)
2. Always, always assume that, based on No.1 above, the driver will do something dumb that puts YOUR life in jeopardy and prob'ly won't give 1 sh*t that they did
3. Always, always, based on Nos. 1 and 2, have a "Plan B or C" that will get you out of harm's way, or at least, minimize your chances of becoming a road victim

This may not guarantee you won't get hit (if driver wants to send you a msg., they'll find a way However, it will save your butt in many situations.

Ride safe. Ride smart. Always assume the worst of a driver in a vehicle. Therefore, always give the right-of-way to a vehicle, whether they deserve it or not. Stay alive.....
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Originally Posted by non-fixie View Post
Glad you're OK!

I really don't understand why people don't use their indicators. It's not like it takes a lot of effort. They've kept me from hitting a cyclist at least twice ...
"Using your turn signal is akin to giving secrets to the enemy."

Read that in an article about driving in Chicago, and it probably applies throughout most of the US.
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Originally Posted by vintagerando View Post
Hope this isn't an omen, only February and it seems my luck already ran out.
Got hit today. It seems some people make turns with their cars without using that little turn-signal-gadget thingie.
Good news; I am fine. Bad news; one of my Shimano STIs didn't fare as well.
So, if anyone has a triple/10sp/front/.STI (used) for sale, I could use it.

Reason for this post: Everyone...please be careful out there. Don't assume you know what drivers are going to do. Head-up, watch, scan.
You can't expect people to use turn signals, I think a lot of drivers forgot what that thing is for! Glad to hear you came out of it good Just remember that you have to expect the unexpected from drivers, never pull along side a car at a stop unless you have to because of a bike lane, instead take the lane and stay behind them...in fact even if you're in a bike lane don't pull along side a large profile vehicle, they can't see you, and if they decide to turn right they're going to take all the room including the bike lane which means there's a good chance you're going to get hit! If you are in a bike lane next to a car make sure they see you, if you're not sure they saw you let them go first and stay behind so if they turn they can't hit you. Keep your ears open too, if you're approaching an intersection or a driveway of sorts and you hear a car accelerate behind you all bets are on that the car is trying to beat you to the intersection and turn in front of you and in the process cut you off which you could end up hitting the side of the car, and if that happens the car won't stop!

Don't think that just because you have the right away everyone is going to give it you.
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