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Old 03-06-19, 07:15 PM
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Great thread! What a great surprise to find out your mystery machine's company is still around. Really had a great time reading
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Apparently metallic means heavy glitter now! Not at all what it looks like on the cap too. So pissed...
Finally a day to paint. EPIC failure! Dang paint is glitter, $&#!!
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Did some close scrutiny of the front mud guard to see what word is on it. In parenthesis “INOX”

bells anyone?

Also put the fork light bracket in the workmate and slowly bent it straight ahead. It’s not going to have a bottle generator on it so does not need to be curved towards the wheel. Still have to cut the aluminium tube, Drexel the slot for it to fit over the bracket tab for the new light.

sanded the crown cap smooth for the coming correct spray paint.
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Old 03-07-19, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 3speedslow View Post
just for build fun at the present. Im looking forward to experiencing the ride of a 20 wheeled folder when Im finished.
Do you have a folder?
LOL! No, I don't have a folder.

It looks like you are doing a nice job. Good one!
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@3speedslow, a very good metal looking paint and tough as nails is "Silver Wheel Paint" I've used two brands including DuPont and both worked super well. Available at any Auto Store. Also did the wheels on my other British beast, the TR7.

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Old 03-08-19, 07:58 AM
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@3speedslow, a very good metal looking paint and tough as nails is "Silver Wheel Paint" I've used two brands including DuPont and both worked super well. Available at any Auto Store. Also did the wheels on my other British beast, the TR7.

Cool, I remember seeing that type of spray at Lowes when I flopped on my first choice. I will go back and look at it closer.

Sorry, your beast is awesome but all eyes on the warbirds!
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Old 03-08-19, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 3speedslow View Post
Did some close scrutiny of the front mud guard to see what word is on it. In parenthesis “INOX”

bells anyone?

Inox is alternative terminology for stainless steel and the term was widely used throughout Europe.
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Inox is alternative terminology for stainless steel and the term was widely used throughout Europe.[/LEFT]
Yep, beat me to it.
Elite Ciussi Inox cages are nice, don't rust, but sure don't shine up like polished stainless. At least they have "petite" construction.
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Good to know. I guess that’s why the fenders are the shiniest part of the bike!
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Old 03-08-19, 09:28 PM
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What are your plans for the brakes? They are essential but are looking very crusty.
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What are your plans for the brakes? They are essential but are looking very crusty.
Good question! Since I seem to be using most everything else on the first go-around I decided to give the brakes a try. I cleaned, put triflow on the friction places and new pads on. Cable and housing will be new. We are flatland, no hills or screaming descents to battle.

If they flex like the dickens as I think they will, something else will go in their stead.

Thanks for reading!
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Old 03-11-19, 05:51 PM
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Going back over the cast off parts I have put the kickstand back in the parts pile. Its a nice one which seemed to work very well when I was leaving the bike stationary for periods of time. Not Heavy duty nor flimsy. Stamped Brevet.

Dont think I want to be leaning this bike against things for some reason. It should stand up on its own.
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I think the ones on my Schwinn Speedster may fit that.
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Good question! Since I seem to be using most everything else on the first go-around I decided to give the brakes a try. I cleaned, put triflow on the friction places and new pads on. Cable and housing will be new. We are flatland, no hills or screaming descents to battle.

If they flex like the dickens as I think they will, something else will go in their stead.

Thanks for reading!
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Old 03-12-19, 08:50 AM
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I think the ones on my Schwinn Speedster may fit that.
Whats the reach of those back and front? The ones on there now have a needed reach of 80mm.

i could always do what the cool kids around here do and drag their feet to slow down!
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Why are you doing this?
Because there is a certain charm to these bikes, and they're actually quite useful. Five years ago I built up a Yugoslavian version (con't remember the brand name, and damned if I can find a picture of it) for my about-to-be-wife for our honeymoon in St. Augustine, FL while I rode my Twenty. Even built her a S/A 2-speed hub for it. It worked well, finally got sold this past February at Westminster. Yes, there's a bit of frame flex at the joint, but it certainly works well enough for short distance commuting.

Just another way of looking at vintage bikes.
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Old 03-13-19, 03:34 PM
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I’ve located the last clamp I will need, this one goes on the handle bar stem. Both of the clamp handles had been sheared off sometime in the folders life. The PO had used the round nut as its tightening feature. The deep vice grip marks in them showed it.

Found a really good chrome paint at a model store. Did the fork cap and really liked the results. Lot cheaper then spray paint too. Plan on buying another small bottle and should be able to cover the chainguard as well.

progress as it happens. Hope to start putting it together this weekend!
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Can't wait to see the resurrected Cinzia! In time for Easter?
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Can't wait to see the resurrected Cinzia! In time for Easter?
Oh, I plan on having some rides on this way before Easter arrives! Today the fork gets reunited with the frame and it becomes a rolling project. Things should move quick after that.
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"Brevet" means "patented."
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Wheelbase is 37 1/2


I like this blue, they came in many different ones to choose from.


Saddlebag for dramatic effect
Started rebuilding the folder when I got back from my delivery and cowboy ride. Its 72 degrees and I wasnt going to miss it. Here is how it sits after most of the parts come together. Little bit more like chain, chaingaurd and cabling. After that some general tightening of bolts and fit adjustments show get me out around the neighborhood.
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This is how it started out
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Old 03-15-19, 08:50 AM
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nice job !
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Whoa!

Yet another wonderful project on your part.

Envious of these resto skills.

Fine documentation of the progress.

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Frame bits -

fork crown is Agrati Nr. 001.8518

fork crown cap you refinished is Agrati Nr. 202.9110

fork ends are Agrati Nr. 000.8010

dropouts are Agati Nr. 025.8002, special model for small wheeled bicycles

plate style chain stay bridge likely Agrati

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headset locknut and adjustable race similar to an OFMEGA pattern

is there writing on the top (horizontal) surface of the locknut?

HS might also be Gnutti or Agrati

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are hub barrels marked or plain?

several Italian manufacturers produced these five-piece steel small flange hubs

both Agrati and Gnutti offered them in 28 hole

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pedal update -

need to correct myself.

found several pairs of Way-Assauto with exactly this tread/"rubber"

but did not find any with this dustup shape however

so am thinking these are earlier/later than the examples was able to locate

found no Sheffield or Agrati pedals of this pattern whose treads were an exact match for those of the bicycle

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Big thanks again to @T-Mar for all his outstanding information!

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Chanced upon this image from a fashion shoot the other day.

The beautiful young lady is astride what looks like it may be a Cinzia folder.

Perhaps our cypher clerks shall be able to divine something from what is left of her machine's head transfer.

Her mount and our subject one look to hail from the same era...



Looking forward to the next project update!

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Don’t mind me if I save that pic for, er, research documentation. Bike in question does look much like the Cinzia but the lamp apparatus is different. Might be because I seemed to have the Elite model. Studying the pic intently!

i have managed to brush paint the chaingaurd with the modeling chrome paint. Put it on thick and it really did a nice job. Letting it dry and harden a bit before installing. I have used to time to remove items in a practice fold down. Still trying to find the smallest dimension vs what I’m willing to remove. Closest I come to an intellectual conundrum.

i also have been spending time with another younger folder of the English persuasion. Like my first post said...” what I really want is a Raleigh” it’s true, start with something and the other suddenly shows up.

now I have a single speed folder and a 3 speed one!

Thanks for reading!

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