Anyone else excited about GCN classic Trek to Superbike series?
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Fade would have looked better than what came to pass. I agree the blue needs to be darker. I was okay with the original. It would have been more of a sleeper if it had remained unaltered.
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I really wish he had the boarders of the colors all horizontal and parallel, would have looked a lot better. And a super bike has a spray bomb in the garage paint job? Really? I have to agree with the above, it's a fine job.
...but is it super... ?
...but is it super... ?
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I think the new paint job was okay. I think leaving the original paint job would have been better. It would let the bike still say it is old but with awesome components. You know the whole keeping things renewable/reusable, kinda like when someone fixes up and restores an old car but gives it some modern touches.
Glad he didn’t try to paint it to look like a Spitfire... now since Trek is an American company maybe a Mustang or Thunderbolt would have been more appropriate
Still excited for EP3!
Glad he didn’t try to paint it to look like a Spitfire... now since Trek is an American company maybe a Mustang or Thunderbolt would have been more appropriate
Still excited for EP3!
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I'm not really impressed with the series. It would have been more interesting to look at multiple aluminum bikes before deciding. Each example might have had some interesting features & benefits. The painting was oversimplified. It might have also been unnecessary.
I'll keep watching, but I'm expecting further let-downs. It's doubtful that the bike will outperform a new Canyon Endurace (aluminum) or a Fuji Roubaix. It could end up costing as much. Maybe that's the point.
I'll keep watching, but I'm expecting further let-downs. It's doubtful that the bike will outperform a new Canyon Endurace (aluminum) or a Fuji Roubaix. It could end up costing as much. Maybe that's the point.
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I agree with this after having watched episode two... His paint job looks not unlike a lot of bikes the homeless ride around Salem , in fact I am not 100% certain his paint job is better than some of the rattle can jobs I've seen on homeless bikes .
Thats a really horrible finish , he should have left it in the USPS livery ..
Thats a really horrible finish , he should have left it in the USPS livery ..
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I'm not really impressed with the series. It would have been more interesting to look at multiple aluminum bikes before deciding. Each example might have had some interesting features & benefits. The painting was oversimplified. It might have also been unnecessary.
I'll keep watching, but I'm expecting further let-downs. It's doubtful that the bike will outperform a new Canyon Endurace (aluminum) or a Fuji Roubaix. It could end up costing as much. Maybe that's the point.
I'll keep watching, but I'm expecting further let-downs. It's doubtful that the bike will outperform a new Canyon Endurace (aluminum) or a Fuji Roubaix. It could end up costing as much. Maybe that's the point.
I agree with this after having watched episode two... His paint job looks not unlike a lot of bikes the homeless ride around Salem , in fact I am not 100% certain his paint job is better than some of the rattle can jobs I've seen on homeless bikes .
Thats a really horrible finish , he should have left it in the USPS livery ..
Thats a really horrible finish , he should have left it in the USPS livery ..
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Those who don't like it, do y'all think the paint job itself is bad, or just the color scheme he chose and ended up using?
I though the paint job seemed pretty good (I've never done one), but he should've done the fade maybe, or changed the scheme up a little bit.
I though the paint job seemed pretty good (I've never done one), but he should've done the fade maybe, or changed the scheme up a little bit.
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Tough, conspiracy theory laden, crowd here. Paint is always subjective. I think Jon's done a nice job of going thru the process and describing what he was doing, which is probably more to the point of the video. Everyone should get the opportunity to spray bomb a frame in their life, for all the anticipation, and then the letdown. Two years from now, with the inevitable scratches, there will be a new sense of Hakuna Matata.
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Tough, conspiracy theory laden, crowd here. Paint is always subjective. I think Jon's done a nice job of going thru the process and describing what he was doing, which is probably more to the point of the video. Everyone should get the opportunity to spray bomb a frame in their life, for all the anticipation, and then the letdown. Two years from now, with the inevitable scratches, there will be a new sense of Hakuna Matata.
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Yep, there's that. I don't think we're his target audience, anyway.
I have rattle canned a frame and it turned out quite nice, however I spent a lot of time on prep and I didn't buy really cheap spray paint. I primed , shot a nice coat of british racing green and 3 coats of clear followed by wet sanding. In fact when I figured up the amount of time and materials to DIY I could have actually had the local body shop spray the frame for me for about $40 difference in what I paid to save the money and do it myself.
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Could only be improved with some early '90s Univega style splattertastic paint.
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We have some good and great home-based pro and rattle can painters here in C&V. I've done a few rattlers, including the matte/satin black paint job on my '74 P15 Paramount. Semi-delicacy of paint aside (even using a tougher type of aerosol paint), for $40-50 all in, including primer, I really dig the results. Many on here thankfully also do!
@diomekes the paint laid down well (at least on camera), but that's how spray.bike behaves, which gives access and confidence to many, including first-timers. Spraying horizontal sections of color, whether in fade or with masking, is a bit tedious on a bike, especially around the seat cluster. You could see the tiny horizontal passes John made and it looks inelegant, but truthfully there's not much you can do in that area that doesn't look a little hacked at from observation.
@Kuromori I don't think GCN would peddle product in such a blunt manner. They may conclude that building a super bike from a cheap used one may likely not be any better than buying a $1k bike right off the rack, but I think they'd suggest a number of bikes from a number of manufacturers, and perhaps conclude that the $1k segment "is hyper competitive, you get a lot for your money, and you can't really lose." I fully agree on your second section of points. Really, for $1k, find a good deal on a used complete Trek Emonda ALR. Very light, very responsive, great handler, and plenty good with 11-speed 105 or whatever would be on it. Heck, I've put 7700 and 7800 on mine and it still was in the 17 lb range ready to ride.
@Barrettscv I too would have liked to see a few of the bikes he considered. His ebay buying advice lets us know he's more shark than minnow when hunting, so naturally I'd like a peek around the proverbial curtain to see all he considered. I will keep hope up nevertheless. I am glad he is doing it in the first place!
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I’m not feeling the paint job either. He should have picked a single color with some pearl mixed in or something.
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Oh episode two is 100% an advertisement for spray.bike no question. Nothing wrong with that, he has to make money while entertaining us. I laughed at how ironic it was to transform a US Postal bike to something that looked like Greg LeMonds machine - take that Trek In the end though he says it ended up looking like a Panasonic team bike.
I'm a little disappointed because I see now that the series will revolve around advertising, so my idea of a few year old drivetrain tech is out the window. I bet you will see a WHOLE BUNCH of Wiggle being advertised next episode.
I'm a little disappointed because I see now that the series will revolve around advertising, so my idea of a few year old drivetrain tech is out the window. I bet you will see a WHOLE BUNCH of Wiggle being advertised next episode.
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I have to agree, an advertisement for spray.bike. I while I don’t have qualms with the product though I personally have never used it, the colour scheme seems off, maybe as someone mentioned it is how the lines were cut. I am totally engaged, but have the sinking feeling this will cost more than it ever should.
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I saw that he did not have a good set up for painting the fade, which could be the reason why he gave up on it. Doing a nice fade painting one needs to have a correct air flow so the overspray doesn't contaminate or spot the previous laid paints.
In looking at the painting he did a real chunky design and it appears that he hasn't wet sanded or polished the orange peal look. I also think it would look better if he put some white and black(or gold) bands between the colors.
I think it really boils down to, he did the product placement but did not do a good job with the production. I'm not sure he did spray.bike as well as advertiser would have liked.
In looking at the painting he did a real chunky design and it appears that he hasn't wet sanded or polished the orange peal look. I also think it would look better if he put some white and black(or gold) bands between the colors.
I think it really boils down to, he did the product placement but did not do a good job with the production. I'm not sure he did spray.bike as well as advertiser would have liked.
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My experience was the same, except I was 9, it was the middle of the winter, in a cold basement, using some paint (sky blue) left over from who knows what project, with prep effort consisted of dragging some sand paper (meant for wood) over parts of the frame for like 15 minutes, and I'm pretty sure I left the crank on because I didn't have the knowledge or tools to take it off. Yeah, other than those minor details, and acceptable results.... same same.
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I agree, Tom. $1100 including paint and decals, 11sp 6800.
No doubt. A 730 or TX900 would blow away a lot of bikes in hot-rod form. They'd do pretty well in OEM form, too.
If they really wanted to "superbike" a Trek, @jamesdak's 20-year old Y-Foil would be the choice to hunt down just about any bike out there.
No doubt. A 730 or TX900 would blow away a lot of bikes in hot-rod form. They'd do pretty well in OEM form, too.
If they really wanted to "superbike" a Trek, @jamesdak's 20-year old Y-Foil would be the choice to hunt down just about any bike out there.
...or even many of the examples in the STI/ergo thread.
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I saw that he did not have a good set up for painting the fade, which could be the reason why he gave up on it. Doing a nice fade painting one needs to have a correct air flow so the overspray doesn't contaminate or spot the previous laid paints.
In looking at the painting he did a real chunky design and it appears that he hasn't wet sanded or polished the orange peal look. I also think it would look better if he put some white and black(or gold) bands between the colors.
I think it really boils down to, he did the product placement but did not do a good job with the production. I'm not sure he did spray.bike as well as advertiser would have liked.
In looking at the painting he did a real chunky design and it appears that he hasn't wet sanded or polished the orange peal look. I also think it would look better if he put some white and black(or gold) bands between the colors.
I think it really boils down to, he did the product placement but did not do a good job with the production. I'm not sure he did spray.bike as well as advertiser would have liked.
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