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Old 03-07-19, 12:01 AM
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Back to that Morroni subject above. Zoomed in on the wheel and lookie here! What kind of nipples are these and how does it tighten or pull the spoke?
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100 gram rear rack
Pffft! 100 gram rack? Nonsense!

I bet that rack could safely support a 200 gram load, probably even a 300 gram load under most conditions!
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Pino morroni bottom bracket..not the most exciting, but an interesting piece engineering.
The cartridge is Italian threaded, all the way across, so the bottom bracket shell needs to be tapped with a lathe, to ensure the thread is consistent from one side to the other.

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The more low brow stuff fascinates me the most. Bridgestone self centering brakes. From the early aero era. Bridgestones from this era were pretty interesting and innovative, and probably slightly too ahead of their time. They had translucent brake cable housing several decades before it became fashionable.


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These are so esoteric, I have yet to find an equally esoteric frameset to honor (?) them. Any suggestions?

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​​​​​​​Did you ever figure out how to anchor the cable?
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Did you ever figure out how to anchor the cable?
The cable anchor is right under that circular cap at the center of the caliper.
IIRC thIre's a pinch grub screw with an Allen head socket on it.
Careful when you put back the cap so it snaps on to the hard plastic face cover, under the rubber 'aero" cover.
Seen lots of these with caps gone, I think because the owners only got it attached to the rubber cover which has an oversized hole on it. So it falls off when they rode the bike. It will not be easy to find replacements for such
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Originally Posted by HTupolev View Post
Less interesting than most of the other stuff in this thread, and not mechanically strange at all, but it's a bizarre rebrand of a bizarre copy of an interesting part. Probably the most esoteric thing I've got laying around.

I recognize that brand ....



.... but haven't a clue what it's doing on that derailleur.

EDIT: just had a look around, and there is a page on them on Michael Sweatman's site. He mentions the saddle maker, even without having seen these graphics.
EDIT EDIT: after a closer look: he does have this "555 arabesque"
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Very nice
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Very nice
Got it from Kramer.
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How about Shimano's FF and Positron systems?

https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/po...-marvel.90466/

Weyless hub skewers are pretty esoteric looking.
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Originally Posted by specialmonkey View Post
How about Shimano's FF and Positron systems?

https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/po...-marvel.90466/
Indeed. Funny you mention as only a few years ago some maker introduced a same design for MTBs.

Browning was another company making 'esoteric' drive systems like the Smart Shift.

Browning also made for Suntour, The Beast electric shift.

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EDIT EDIT: after a closer look: he does have this "555 arabesque"
Yep. SunRace 555 is a Shimano 600 EX copy, and they apparently re-branded some for Lepper. The disraeligears page shows a long-cage version.
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Originally Posted by Chombi1 View Post
The cable anchor is right under that circular cap at the center of the caliper.
IIRC thIre's a pinch grub screw with an Allen head socket on it.
Careful when you put back the cap so it snaps on to the hard plastic face cover, under the rubber 'aero" cover.
Seen lots of these with caps gone, I think because the owners only got it attached to the rubber cover which has an oversized hole on it. So it falls off when they rode the bike. It will not be easy to find replacements for such
thanks for heads ups.
Yours look good mounted.
I'm using Modolos on the bike that the Weinmann Deltas were intended for. Rethinking the bike for their use (but it is low on the priority list).
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I'm not sure these fit the thread properly, but I've been told they're kinda hard to find. "New" 600 EX calipers, in the longer reach flavor. I also got the seatpost, but no brake levers. 😒😉
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Stumbled across this Suntour Competition in really good condition at the coop. Likely mid 60's. One of, it not the first slanted parallelogram derailleurs. It's a pretty one, for sure. Likely a shop wall-hanger for me.

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^That Suntour slant parallelogram clearly is their brilliant design, but almost uncanny how their artwork cast name and background 'parallels' Campagnolo Record. A fine and 'super' example!
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Super Champion Mixte rims. Accept 700c clincher or tubular.




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the most exotic i have are Magura Hydraulic Rim Brakes

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Originally Posted by specialmonkey View Post
How about Shimano's FF and Positron systems?

https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/po...-marvel.90466/

Weyless hub skewers are pretty esoteric looking.

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I just got the above weyless hubs. Only the rear still had the original skewer. The owner said thinks he had over tightened and broken the front.
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Campagnolo High-Low hubs I still have wheels I built in the 70's 36 hole , I used 3 cross on the high, 4 cross on the low flange..

this guy opines on ,, The Retrogrouch: Hi-Lo Hubs
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Nice looking skewer ... how do you like the hubs and sealed bearings?
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Nice looking skewer ... how do you like the hubs and sealed bearings?
I havenít really ridden this bike much yet. I bought it recently and I am waiting for the weather to improve. I have spun the rear wheel in my hands though and it is SMOOTH! Iím excited to give them a whirl. It sounds like they may not be easy to service in the future though.
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Originally Posted by non-fixie View Post
I recognize that brand ....



.... but haven't a clue what it's doing on that derailleur.

EDIT: just had a look around, and there is a page on them on Michael Sweatman's site. He mentions the saddle maker, even without having seen these graphics.
EDIT EDIT: after a closer look: he does have this "555 arabesque"
that reminds me... I've got a Lepper saddle on my Olmo. Don't recall the model name, but it looks a lot like this:



Two things are novel about it....

1. it has hollow steel rails made of Reynolds 531

2. There is a strip of nylon material under the center of the saddle. It's tensioned leather, like many saddles, but also tensioned nylon.

Apparently these used to come as standard on a Cannondale touring bike. Mine was in the parts bin at the LBS, presumably being swapped when the bike was purchased. Definitely the best $25 I've spent!

Steve in Peoria

p.s. these were a bit notorious for breaking where the rails were welded to the cantle "plate". Not a good saddle for anyone but the skinny folks, apparently.
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The following rare wheelset was mentioned on another thread and as listed on the big auction site. Early and possibly prototype Ukai carbon spokes with carbon / aluminum rim. Described as first shown on display -show bike.



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