Superbe Pedals not MKS
03-05-19, 11:46 PM
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Superbe Pedals not MKS
I was inquiring about replacement bearings after my www searches left me wanting more reliable info and I wanted bearings on hand before I dismantled my pedals.
I thought they were made by MKS and emailed them.
I got this response:
Dear Jeff san,
Thank you for your contact.
I’m sorry to say that Suntour Superb Pedals or Superb Pro pedals of 80’s were not manufactured by MKS but by Maeda industries itself,
though the pedals called Superb Custom in 70’s, which had cup & cone bearings were manufactured by MKS.
So I cannot answer your question, I beg your pardon.
correctly, but some source said that inboard cartridge bearing was:
Type: 6800Z
Outer diameter: 19mm
Inner diameter: 10mm
Width: 5mm
and outboard cartridge bearing was:
Type: 698Z
Outer diameter: 19mm
Inner diameter: 8mm
Width: 6mm
I hope this information may be your help at your pedal restoration.
Thanks, regards,
MKS
So awsome.
I thought they were made by MKS and emailed them.
I got this response:
Dear Jeff san,
Thank you for your contact.
I’m sorry to say that Suntour Superb Pedals or Superb Pro pedals of 80’s were not manufactured by MKS but by Maeda industries itself,
though the pedals called Superb Custom in 70’s, which had cup & cone bearings were manufactured by MKS.
So I cannot answer your question, I beg your pardon.
correctly, but some source said that inboard cartridge bearing was:
Type: 6800Z
Outer diameter: 19mm
Inner diameter: 10mm
Width: 5mm
and outboard cartridge bearing was:
Type: 698Z
Outer diameter: 19mm
Inner diameter: 8mm
Width: 6mm
I hope this information may be your help at your pedal restoration.
Thanks, regards,
MKS
So awsome.
03-06-19, 09:14 AM
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That's really nice of MKS to respond to you with such good info! I wonder how they knew so much about a part they didn't make? ...especially one made quite a while ago.
The Superbe pedals are one of my favorites! I've never taken them apart, but I have pulled my XC Pro Grease Guard pedals apart. Pretty similar, I believe. Wasn't hard to get the XC Pro's apart, so I don't expect you'll have much trouble with your Superbes.
Steve in Peoria
The Superbe pedals are one of my favorites! I've never taken them apart, but I have pulled my XC Pro Grease Guard pedals apart. Pretty similar, I believe. Wasn't hard to get the XC Pro's apart, so I don't expect you'll have much trouble with your Superbes.
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That's really nice of MKS to respond to you with such good info! I wonder how they knew so much about a part they didn't make? ...especially one made quite a while ago.
The Superbe pedals are one of my favorites! I've never taken them apart, but I have pulled my XC Pro Grease Guard pedals apart. Pretty similar, I believe. Wasn't hard to get the XC Pro's apart, so I don't expect you'll have much trouble with your Superbes.
Steve in Peoria
The Superbe pedals are one of my favorites! I've never taken them apart, but I have pulled my XC Pro Grease Guard pedals apart. Pretty similar, I believe. Wasn't hard to get the XC Pro's apart, so I don't expect you'll have much trouble with your Superbes.
Steve in Peoria
03-06-19, 11:24 AM
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The Superbe Pro pedals use cartridge bearings, so they're not all that similar to to the XC Pro pedals. I have three pairs of Superbe Pro (one pair NOS still) and never had occasion to take them apart except to replace the cage plates. Not sure how to remove the axle. If I were to try to take them apart, I'd loosen the cap bolt on the outboard end until only a few millimeters of thread was engaged. Then I'd tap on it with a soft-face hammer to push the axle off the bearing cartridges. Once the axle come loose from the cartridges, remove the cap bolt and slide the axle free. Then use a bearing puller to extract the cartridges.
03-06-19, 02:58 PM
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This would be nice.
03-08-19, 05:13 AM
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I have both, easily overhauled the MKS Sylvans, but I'm not touching the Superbe Pro pedals. I have half-clips on both sets, but the footprint on the Suntour pedals is so small, I may have to go back to full clips. The GPX pedals have a bigger footprint than either, but are a bit heavy.
03-08-19, 03:55 PM
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Or the responder was a SunTour pedal guy, who went to MKS after Maeda closed.
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I'm thinking that reading Japanese makes it easier to get the info and he found time to Google In Japanese for the dimensions. Whatever, I've had some Sylvan Touring that were pretty nice and I have some of their rubber pedals that are smooth spinners. Shimano clipless pedals keep falling in my lap, but I am tempted to try there clipless systems for road or MTB. I'm too chicken to try any slotted cleats but if I get the nerve, MKS is the business.
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That's really great that they helped you out!!!
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That's really nice of MKS to respond to you with such good info! I wonder how they knew so much about a part they didn't make? ...especially one made quite a while ago.
The Superbe pedals are one of my favorites! I've never taken them apart, but I have pulled my XC Pro Grease Guard pedals apart. Pretty similar, I believe. Wasn't hard to get the XC Pro's apart, so I don't expect you'll have much trouble with your Superbes.
Steve in Peoria
The Superbe pedals are one of my favorites! I've never taken them apart, but I have pulled my XC Pro Grease Guard pedals apart. Pretty similar, I believe. Wasn't hard to get the XC Pro's apart, so I don't expect you'll have much trouble with your Superbes.
Steve in Peoria
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03-09-19, 09:36 AM
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The Japanese world of high end bikes was pretty small. Fuji/SunTour/Nitto/Sugino/MKS/DiaCompe obviously worked closely with each other to create the beautiful (and beautifully operating) Fuji Pro with Superbe hardware. That was obvious as a sales floor bike guy at a Fuji shop in 1977.
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Wandering off-topic a bit.. I have mixed feelings about the idea of "groups". Clearly, it makes it easier to market bikes and the parts, but I miss the days when I could pick out parts from a variety of suppliers and no one thought the bike looked like a "dog's breakfast" of parts. Oh well.
Steve in Peoria
(but I still have SunTour and MKS pedals on quite a few bikes)
