Can you tape an already glued new tubular tire?
04-15-19, 08:32 AM
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Can you tape an already glued new tubular tire?
I've searched but can't seem to find an answer. I have a brand new tubular tire that's has a coat of glue applied to the base tape already. Is it OK to mount that with tubular tape vs glue or should I stick to glue on the rim? Getting ready to set up some new tubular rims using tape and hoping to only have to buy one tire if I can use this one.
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At your discretion. I've done exactly that without issue. It sticks almost too much. Matter of fact the rim tape was aggressive enough that the base tape on a Vittoria tubular was coming off upon my later removal.
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04-15-19, 09:14 AM
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What kind of tire is it? In my experience, tubular tires come with something over the base tape -- whether it's latex, a form of glue, or whatever -- in anticipation that the installer will use whatever to mount the tire. If it's a new tire, and you've got a clean rim, you're good to use whatever you want.
If it's a new tire that someone else applied mastik to, you should still be ok, just scrape off any high spots or globs if there are any.
If it's a new tire that someone else applied mastik to, you should still be ok, just scrape off any high spots or globs if there are any.
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Originally Posted by crank_addict
At your discretion. I've done exactly that without issue. It sticks almost too much. Matter of fact the rim tape was aggressive enough that the base tape on a Vittoria tubular was coming off upon my later removal.
I had my first flat, ever, on a tubular last weekend. Ever. Bad valve vulcanizing right at the inner tube part. Well-used Tufo Carbon Composite, so yeah, $80, but it came with some wheels, so any use was gravy.
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Originally Posted by ljsense
If it's a new tire that someone else applied mastik to, you should still be ok, just scrape off any high spots or globs if there are any.
There are two places you don't want Klingons, and one is a tubular tire/rim. Both make for unpleasant cycling.
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Well, finally got this done tonight. First time using tape. So freaking easy, hopefully I did a good job. seemed really easy and didn't take long at all. Just took my time laying the tape down, pressing it good to the rim. Then I put the tires on, pumped them up a couple of times while checking alignment, and then pulled out the facing tape. They are now sitting in the corner curing. I'll throw them on something this weekend for a test ride. Still not sure which bike is going to get them. Mounted then on some 40mm C.F. Reynolds wheels so I've got to decide which bike will benefit the most from them.
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Originally Posted by jamesdak
Then I put the tires on, pumped them up a couple of times while checking alignment, and then pulled out the facing tape. They are now sitting in the corner curing. .
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Originally Posted by markwesti
I'm not getting this . You put the tape on , then you put the tires on , then you pulled the facing tape off ? In the past I have just put on the tape , pull the face off , put the tire on and ride . Maybe I'm going to learn something here .
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05-01-19, 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by jamesdak
Well, I'm no expert but that's how I did it. Let's you adjust the tire as best you can before it's stuck down. I just exposed a little tape on each end at the valve so I had something to pull once I was happy with how the tire sat.
I wouldn't use the Tufo again - too hard to remove a tire without causing other damage.
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05-01-19, 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes
I have, too, with a Vittoria, and they do seem to want to come apart a bit.
I had my first flat, ever, on a tubular last weekend. Ever. Bad valve vulcanizing right at the inner tube part. Well-used Tufo Carbon Composite, so yeah, $80, but it came with some wheels, so any use was gravy.
I had my first flat, ever, on a tubular last weekend. Ever. Bad valve vulcanizing right at the inner tube part. Well-used Tufo Carbon Composite, so yeah, $80, but it came with some wheels, so any use was gravy.
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Originally Posted by Road Fan
Hi, Robbie! Do use a sealant? I was thinking of trying the Effetomariposa Caffelatex as a preventative. An LBS says no sealant works much for leaks in the valve area.
I avoided sealants in tubulars, for years, but @ldmataya convinced me it was a good preventive measure. Now I put 2 oz in each new tubular.
Peace of mind issue, perhaps, and of course, subject to change if I flat and get all psycho twisted up on it.
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Originally Posted by jamesdak
Well, I'm no expert but that's how I did it. Let's you adjust the tire as best you can before it's stuck down. I just exposed a little tape on each end at the valve so I had something to pull once I was happy with how the tire sat.
05-01-19, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes
I do use a sealant now, but your LBS is right, it would not have helped that leak one iota, as it was a structural failure.
I avoided sealants in tubulars, for years, but @ldmataya convinced me it was a good preventive measure. Now I put 2 oz in each new tubular.
Peace of mind issue, perhaps, and of course, subject to change if I flat and get all psycho twisted up on it.
I avoided sealants in tubulars, for years, but @ldmataya convinced me it was a good preventive measure. Now I put 2 oz in each new tubular.
Peace of mind issue, perhaps, and of course, subject to change if I flat and get all psycho twisted up on it.
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