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Nuovo Record 06-22-21 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by CyclesMakaron (Post 22111303)
Molteni on "thick tubes" Mx Leader
looks ...unconventional :)
I would not worry too much about the orange shade, in team Molteni at least 2 shades were used, in EMC probably also 2 - the important thing is that it was not a very dark yellow or tomato red :)

Do you happen to know (or can you estimate) their RAL colour codes (or another system, like CMYK or Pantone)?
Here are some RAL oranges:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_RAL_colors#Orange

Thank you!

CyclesMakaron 06-23-21 07:49 AM

I liked RAL 2003, put it into google and 20 samples in different shades popped up on my screen - I give up....
Take a look at photos of original Molteni, choose the nicest shade, print a photo and go to the paint shop - they will match the paint (or at least show you the closest equivalent in some system).
I can't think of anything else

Nuovo Record 06-23-21 10:18 AM

You saw right through my plan... it is the only thing one can do. Thanks for trying, anyway!
I had the same experience with Bianchi Celeste (have decided that I like Pantone 352 C best).
Here is a picture I took of Eddy´s hour record bike at the Eddy Merckx subway station in Bruxelles. Really not sure that the paint is original...

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3180095cbf.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ca5ee79173.jpg

rccardr 06-23-21 12:52 PM

Avoid RAL and Pantone color references if you can, much better to use an automotive paint code. Pro auto paint shops have books and books full of color samples. You’ll have a much better chance of getting the color you want if you go that route.
There have been several VW and Subaru colors in recent years that would make a good Molteni base color.

Nuovo Record 06-23-21 01:06 PM

Thanks for the VW and Subaru tip.
I can add that I have seen Fiats which looked quite Moltenish, too.
Hmmm, Lamborghini...?

nunol 07-04-21 03:38 AM

Hello all!
I'm glad I can now post my bikes fotos now!
I got it as a present from a cousin. It was standing in a barn by the sea, so painting was in realy bad shape as you can see.
It was alu-oxide blasted and it is ready for a new paint job.
I love the orange color and I would like to have it painted orange (but not the molteni orange since I do'nt want it to be a molteni replica).
I want to paint it the ssame as the last foto orange frame!
Judging by the SN on the frame is it a good color option?
I mean, did they came from factory in this orange color?
By the way: congratulations to all users here! This is the best forum I have seen abou these bicycles. So much info and knawleage shared! I've been learning a lot.
Thanks!!
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f953d4d93d.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...be159afc48.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2e10cb8c8d.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...69d92c2cf5.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...d370c4585a.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...df82d7f956.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...5609204cde.jpg

rccardr 07-04-21 07:35 AM

For a bright orange/red, look at Chevrolet Hugger Orange, also known in Pontiac land as Carnival Red. Very attractive, not into the yellow or red phases too much. Stable color coding, every paint manufacturer has a code for it for their paint system.

nunol 07-04-21 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by rccardr (Post 22128280)
For a bright orange/red, look at Chevrolet Hugger Orange, also known in Pontiac land as Carnival Red. Very attractive, not into the yellow or red phases too much. Stable color coding, every paint manufacturer has a code for it for their paint system.

My guess is it's some kind of metalic orange. Is it possible to acheive using the paints you suggest?

CyclesMakaron 07-05-21 12:13 AM

Eddy in the pic has a bike from the same period (1982), this shade would be perfect :)

rccardr 07-05-21 06:40 AM

“Some kind of metallic orange” is a broad range of color options.
Again, would suggest that you spend an hour at a pro automotive paint store looking at paint catalogs.
Many paints can be mixed with metalflake or used with pearl. Your painter can work with you to get the effect you want.

aldo indonesia 07-05-21 08:20 AM

merckx codes
 
hi everyone ,do you know what type of EM roadbike vinatage framework :
left up 5
left down A
right up E
right down 4103

nunol 07-05-21 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by rccardr (Post 22129262)
“Some kind of metallic orange” is a broad range of color options.
Again, would suggest that you spend an hour at a pro automotive paint store looking at paint catalogs.
Many paints can be mixed with metalflake or used with pearl. Your painter can work with you to get the effect you want.

Yes, that's what I will do!
I wil work it out with with my painter... He will know.
Thanks

nunol 07-05-21 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by CyclesMakaron (Post 22129149)
Eddy in the pic has a bike from the same period (1982), this shade would be perfect :)

I agree and it is precisely the color I want.
If I try to contact EM company, will they tell me the color code? Any experience with this procedure?

CyclesMakaron 07-05-21 11:11 PM

EMC has changed ownership 3 times, the chances of preserving records of varnishes used 40 years ago are... small :)

A5 E4103 = Professional 1982 (Columbus SL)

aldo indonesia 07-06-21 05:06 AM

really appreciated , thank you

messy11 07-06-21 08:00 AM

Hello Jacek, hope youre doin good.

my friend just acquired this merckx. TeVe Blad paintwork, serial number D4M B2409. Any idea what type and the tubing? Is it corsa extra? The brake bridge doesn't have any EM lettering.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e8af6f1436.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...360b57542f.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...770c41d7d1.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...5ad7dfbb20.jpg

CyclesMakaron 07-06-21 11:23 PM

D4M B2049 = Strada (Columbus Cromor), paint pattern XP = Team Lotto 88

identity 07-25-21 03:47 AM

Found an Eddy Merckx Crescent in a pretty bad shape so I've been removing the paint. The original paint was very similar to the last pic but no chromed chainstay and a different type of brake attachment piece (bridge?) on the rear.

There's a marking on the downtube for "Reynolds 50 tubing". Due to forum restrictions I'll try and get away with putting a link to the photos in disguise: ( ibb.co / album / FgrM8W ) note, it's co, not com.

Thank you for your valuable work!

CyclesMakaron 07-25-21 08:41 AM

ibb.co not available to me :(

identity 07-25-21 08:54 AM

Try imgur dot com /a/u8OWvoT

CyclesMakaron 07-25-21 11:59 AM

I live in the Stone Age :)
I see 1 photo the size of a postage stamp (but big)
This is a Corsa Extra SLX, probably from 1988 in Lotto 1988 paint.
Write the markings on the BB cover then I will stop guessing :)

identity 07-25-21 12:04 PM

Sure, it's got:

6 Z
A 8332

If you can't get a 100% match with this info I'll try to PM you some photos if that's alright. Thanks!!

CyclesMakaron 07-26-21 01:32 AM

The situation is unclear :)
Photos are essential: bb cover with markings, brake bridge, dropouts, seatstay caps.
A6 Z8332 is a 1986 designation!

nunol 08-09-21 07:33 PM

Hello all again!!
I´m about to go pickup my EM from the painting shop. It is the frame S.N. :E3036 from early 80´s as I posted before.
When I got it, it was equiped with Stronglight cranks and crown, Symplex rear derailieur and shifters, weinman brakes/ brake levers, wolber wheels and Mavic hubs.
Also Atax, handlebars Philippe Tour de France, Selle Italia TURBO 1980.
I made some ressearch and I think these parts equiped the bike from factory thow they are surely not top notch quality.
Can anyone confirm if there were E.M. bikes using this equipment from factory?
Thanks

CyclesMakaron 08-10-21 12:12 AM

It's not EMC gear, at Merckx's they were only fitting Campagnolo at the time.
It is likely that the frame was exported to France and the shop there fitted it in this way.


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