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CyclesMakaron 03-16-24 08:57 AM

Corsa Extra TSX january/february 1990

mikekone 04-12-24 05:54 PM

Amazing Eddy Merckx Collection Seminar Classic Bicycles Auburn
 
Any Eddy Merckx bike/history fans out there? Thought so! Rich Gangl is assembling an amazing collection of bikes representing the historical evolution of the bikes Merckx rode. There are 10 bikes in the collection. Some are period bicycles painstakingly presented to be just like what Merckx rode. Other bicycles are recent creations that are insanely accurate reproductions of what Merckx raced on. Rich has spent years on this project. He's searched high and low for proper parts, made parts when necessary (such as for the hour record bike), and obtained or built frames and made sure the paint/decals are presented with amazing accuracy.

In order to bring this project to life, he spent countless diving into the history and images of Eddy Merckx. His collection of bikes is truly unique. Part of it was shown at Classic Bicycles Auburn in 2022. The completed collection will be on display at Classic Bicycles Auburn Sunday June 9. The event is at the amazing Auburn Cord Duesenberg in Auburn Indiana. In addition to the bicycle display, Rich will be presenting a seminar on this project that will dive deeply into the history and legend of Eddy Merckx. If you are a Merckx fan, this may be a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. The seminar is one of many that will be delivered by leading vintage lightweight bicycle experts. The seminars are on Friday and Saturday of Classic Bicycles Auburn weekend. The exact schedule of seminars will be released in the next week or so.

For more information about Classic Bicycles Auburn, Click Here

Auburn Indiana is close to Indianapolis, Detroit, Ann Arbor, Cleveland, and Chicago. Classic Bicycles Auburn is an independently organized event that promotes the enjoyment of vintage lightweight bicycles. If you have questions, please email classicbicyclesauburn@gmail.com

Thanks!
Mike Kone, lead organizer Classic Bicycles Auburnhttps://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...22dd9f967f.jpg
Rich Gangl working his magic on one of the collection frames
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...df3cab57c9.jpg
Rich Gangl and his amazing replica of the Merckx Hour Record bike
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ab7b9ff871.jpg

JacekM 04-13-24 06:00 AM

Hello,
It's been almost a year now, but little by little I'm finishing it. Please take a look at how it came out. I'm just worried about the lettering on the down
tube (from cylomondo) whether the letters seem too thin to you. do you have any more advice. I'm waiting for the handlebars, white wrap and white saddle, probably a selle italia turbo.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e6699fe955.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ba53f4d00e.jpg

nenad 04-15-24 04:00 AM


Originally Posted by JacekM (Post 23213400)
Hello,
It's been almost a year now, but little by little I'm finishing it. Please take a look at how it came out. I'm just worried about the lettering on the down
tube (from cylomondo) whether the letters seem too thin to you. do you have any more advice. I'm waiting for the handlebars, white wrap and white saddle, probably a selle italia turbo.

The lettering appears a bit thinner because of the silver outline around white lettering.
For my part, I like it. Also, the sticker placement is right where it should be overall (down tube and seat tube). At some point in the future you may wish to experiment with downtube letters again but for the time being I suggest you leave it as is.

Well done.

Regards,
Nenad

WvR 06-02-24 07:16 AM

Please help me identify this Eddy Merckx Frame number
 
Can someone please help me decipher this Eddy Merckx Professional Aero frame number?

On the rights side there is the number 0
On the left side of the frame there is:
E
6607

I'm new to this forum and cannot post a picture unfortunately.
Many thanks!
Werner



Originally Posted by CyclesMakaron (Post 20909806)
"...someone finally has to do it..."

Manufacturer's marks are placed on the bottom of the BB cover.

- left side: code of EM Cycles employee responsible for preparing the frame before chroming / painting - always one capital letter:
A - prototypes --- ~ B3000
B - 1 ser ~900 --- ~ E6500 + ~ B2500 --- ?
D - ~ A4000 --- ~ F6000
F - ~ E0200 --- ~ E7500 + ~ A9000 --- ~ B5000
G - prototypes --- ~ E6100
H - ~ B1300 --- ~ G5500
J - ~ A7500 --- ~ A9000
K - ~ F 1300
L - ~ Z 5000 --- ~ D 9999
M - ~ E4700 --- ~ A1100
N - ~ C3300 --- ~ C8100
P - ~ E7700 --- ~ A0600 + ~ D5800 --- ~ G5200
S - ~ A8000 --- ~ H
T - ~ A0600 --- ~ A6700
Y - ~ A1500 --- ~ A6700

(there is a designation . (dot) - may belong to this group: prototypes --- ~ E1800)


- left side: code of tube/frame model - one or two capital letter(s):

C - Corsa: ~ Z4600 --- ~ D9000
CX - Criterium: ~ Z7900 --- ~ A9999
M - Strada: ~ A1500 --- ~ B 9999
R - Reynolds 531
TT - Columbus TSX
WW - Strada: ~ D --- ?
X - Columbus SLX

( Columbus SL, Max, EM MX-L, EM Arcobaleno, Reynolds 501, 753, 653 - no markings )
( sometimes after the marks TT and X a letter B appears - meaning unknown --- british thread?)

- left side: height of the seat tube in cm - the last digit i.e:

2 = 52cm or 62cm
5 = 55cm
8 = 48cm or 58cm

- right side:the series marked with a capital letter - in order: E,Z,A,B,C,D,F,G,H,? ( 9999 frames in each - certainly not all frames of the F, G and H series have been painted and sold)

(the first series did not have a letter designation, it probably produced 999 frames - it is not clear whether frames without serial numbers - prototypes - were included in this series)

(there are team markings: KE - Kelme, CS - Capri Sonne, ED - Europ Decor, W - Winning --- used in seasons 1982-1983 without serial numbers ( every team had a separate frame numbering );
from 1984, team designations appeared next to serial numbers i.e. Kelme ( KE ) and Panasonic ( P )- at least until the 1986 season).

The above description is not precise or flawless, but is now - probably - the closest to the truth. Applies only to steel markings of frames manufactured by Eddy Merckx Cycles - the best company in the world :) Any information, correction and question will be accepted carefully, any necessary changes will be implemented immediately. Thank you, best regards - Jacek


Robvolz 06-12-24 10:07 AM

Howdy
and thank you for doing God’s work!!

this popped up in my neighborhood. I know it’s a size 60 - too tall for me.

left side:
A = employee
0 = size 60

right side Z 7863

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f5f2b22c8.jpeg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...cdc8fc210.jpeg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...456fa7133.jpeg


faema colors and truly untouched. Story goes, dad rode it once, first time w toe clips, fell over and immediately hung it in the garage.

I guess 1981 due to the fork crown eddy/merckx vs EMC

CyclesMakaron 06-14-24 10:40 PM

1983

Robvolz 07-09-24 06:47 PM

I’m looking at this one. Faema colors. Fork crown has that Eddy on the DS, and Merckx on the other

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...210f80de2.jpeg

gene_in_CT 08-25-24 10:19 AM

Question on this EM Color Scheme
 

Originally Posted by CyclesMakaron (Post 23133900)
Corsa Extra SLX 1988

I have this very same bike. It was built with full Dura Ace components. I heard somewhere that a European nation team rode EM bikes with this color scheme. Any info on that?

gene_in_CT 08-25-24 12:20 PM

I have an EM Corsa Extra frame number A1912 in this same orange/yellow/silver paint scheme ("Team Hitachi" colors). It is made with Columbus SLX tubing. Some quick research on Team Hitachi shows that it was in existence from 1984 to 1988. It started with Raliegh bikes but switched to EM in 1985 or 1986. The team disbanded in 1988.

I have some recollection that this color scheme was used by a European national team after that. Belgium? Any information on the history of this color scheme, which is beautiful to look at.

Seanaus 08-25-24 09:08 PM

The team, under various naming sponsors existed from the mid 70s, riding Splendor . Mid 80s was the first time Hitachi appeared as a team sponsor, with Splendor bikes, for 85 and 86. 1987 they changed to Rossin bikes. Hitachi then rode Merckx in 1988 (Columbus tubes) and 1989 (Reynolds tubes).

Edit: just wanted to add, A1912 seems very early for a Hitachi colour scheme. There may be a chance it's a factory respray. When you have more posts, I'm sure we'd like to see pictures of it. Also, bonus question, what is stamped on the bb shell opposite the serial number? Thanks.

seagrade 08-25-24 11:07 PM


Originally Posted by gene_in_CT (Post 23331648)
I have an EM Corsa Extra frame number A1912 in this same orange/yellow/silver paint scheme ("Team Hitachi" colors). It is made with Columbus SLX tubing. Some quick research on Team Hitachi shows that it was in existence from 1984 to 1988. It started with Raliegh bikes but switched to EM in 1985 or 1986. The team disbanded in 1988.

I have some recollection that this color scheme was used by a European national team after that. Belgium? Any information on the history of this color scheme, which is beautiful to look at.

Claude Criquelion (RIP) dragging his crashed Hitachi team Merckx across the finish line of the 1988 Worlds wearing Belgian national team kit is etched in the memory of racers of a certain age, but beyond that I can’t recall a national team riding this colour scheme. National team racers almost always used their pro or club team bikes for the few races in which they represented their country anyway, but I’m guessing you already knew that.

rbroek36 09-17-24 10:32 AM

Info
 
Got me an EM with codes:

Left: 1X A
Right: A 4141

it’s fully red, probably non original paint. Can you please give me some info?

CyclesMakaron 09-20-24 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by rbroek36 (Post 23351202)
Got me an EM with codes:

Left: 1X A
Right: A 4141

it’s fully red, probably non original paint. Can you please give me some info?

1987 Corsa Extra SLX

styggno1 09-20-24 02:52 PM

I have been trying to get in contact with CyclesMakaron for quite a while. Now it seems like he is looking at this thread from time to time and therefore I will try to get his attention here.

Hi CyclesMakaron - I hope you are well.

Here is the build thread of the frame I bought from you earlier:
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...l#post23313636


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1f755d09e6.jpg




CyclesMakaron 09-21-24 10:16 AM

Omg

Thalia949 09-21-24 10:37 PM

Found an interesting sticker on the steering tube of my 89 Merckx.

I had not taken the fork off the bike previously, so this is my first look at it.

any ideas? It says chrome, the fork is painted but chrome under the paint.

Bike is a 56cm, 57 on sticker may be the size?

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...32b4d75f0.jpeg

CyclesMakaron 09-23-24 01:14 PM

B5026 - serial number; 69 - colour code; 2p. (pattern) chromi(e), 57 - seat tube (c-c), kc - Columbus tubes.

mosinglespeeder 09-23-24 05:42 PM

Good day gentlemen: just bought a beauty EM, 7-11 paint, columbus tubes, corsa: BB shell reads
Left:
D
7 C

Right
C
1520

thanks in advance!!

CyclesMakaron 09-24-24 04:00 AM

Spring 1990

753proguy 09-25-24 03:59 PM

I have this aqua 60cm. 128 mm spacing.

Late ‘80s?

BB markings are:

non-drive side: Z


1167


drive side is only a horizontal “P”

753R tubing


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...94197b3bd.jpeg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b71dfa548.jpeg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...148de458a.jpeg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...684fdc36a.jpeg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...79ffb5df9.jpeg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...6151082ea.jpeg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...23bbbf9dd.jpeg

rccardr 09-25-24 06:51 PM

Serial number is late 84.

753proguy 09-25-24 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by rccardr (Post 23357688)
Serial number is late 84.

thanks!

Here’s our other one:

Drive side: M

Non-drive side: Z 4195

125 spacing

joesch 09-26-24 05:41 AM


Originally Posted by styggno1 (Post 23353989)
I have been trying to get in contact with CyclesMakaron for quite a while. Now it seems like he is looking at this thread from time to time and therefore I will try to get his attention here.

Hi CyclesMakaron - I hope you are well.

Here is the build thread of the frame I bought from you earlier:
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...l#post23313636


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1f755d09e6.jpg

Fantastic restoration thread for this bike. Why not add some ride information to it? How does it compare to other classic rides?

CyclesMakaron 09-26-24 12:10 PM

Z1167 P is Pro753 first series!


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