Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Classic & Vintage
Reload this Page >

Late 70s Peugeot PX10 Find

Classic & Vintage This forum is to discuss the many aspects of classic and vintage bicycles, including musclebikes, lightweights, middleweights, hi-wheelers, bone-shakers, safety bikes and much more.

Late 70s Peugeot PX10 Find

Old 05-01-19, 04:02 PM
  #1  
SB_Greg 
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
SB_Greg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Santa Barbara, California
Posts: 179

Bikes: 2018 Trek Domane SL5; 1965 Peugeot PX10; 1974 Peugeot PX10E

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 59 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Late 70s Peugeot PX10 Find

Yesterday I drove about an hour north and purchased a hard luck case 1977-1979 (based on headbadge--the serial number plate has been removed) Peugeot PX10. The bad news is the right chrome fork has rust damage and the frame has been resprayed black (originally white). The good news is it is my size and it came with a number of perks including a Simplex seat post (anyone know what kind this is?), a drillium version of a Stronglight 49D crankset, Zeus pedals, gold anodized Mafac brake calipers, and a few other tidbits of interest. I also got it for $50.00. I will soak the frame and a few other parts in a rust bath. I tried to use nail polish to remove some of the spray paint to no effect. I have some stronger acetone at work I will try and if that doesn't work I will have to come up with some other plan for the finish. It could be I will turn this into some kind of a commuter.


As purchased


disassembled


1977-1979 headbadge


I bought the bike for this crankset and it will shine up nicely.


I love these!


Anyone know what kind of Simplex seat post this is?


You know you are in for it when the freewheel looks like this!

Last edited by SB_Greg; 05-01-19 at 04:15 PM.
SB_Greg is offline  
Old 05-01-19, 04:11 PM
  #2  
noobinsf 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Oakland, CA
Posts: 1,102

Bikes: '04 Felt SR91, '82 Univega Competizione, '72 Motobecane Grand Record, '72 Puch Bergmeister

Mentioned: 27 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 289 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts
That's not a 49d, but instead a model 105. I had one a few years back that I turned into wall art due to a hairline crack, and I recall that member @verktyg had the same issue with a detailed write up on Flickr. I'm sure millions of others were fine -- just check to be sure.
noobinsf is offline  
Old 05-01-19, 04:14 PM
  #3  
TenGrainBread 
Senior Member
 
TenGrainBread's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Madison, WI
Posts: 1,613
Mentioned: 30 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 606 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 18 Times in 15 Posts
The seatpost is an SLJ (Super LJ). Yours looks like the steel version with the black/gold label. There was also a blue label version, and a version made with an aluminum post. Not sure what the difference in labels indicates.

Last edited by TenGrainBread; 05-01-19 at 04:22 PM.
TenGrainBread is online now  
Old 05-01-19, 05:27 PM
  #4  
bikemig 
Senior Member
 
bikemig's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Middle Earth (aka IA)
Posts: 14,785

Bikes: A bunch of old bikes and a few new ones

Mentioned: 99 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3493 Post(s)
Liked 16 Times in 14 Posts
I would have bought that bike for $50 as it's my size as well but that's a heck of a project.
bikemig is online now  
Old 05-01-19, 07:08 PM
  #5  
SB_Greg 
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
SB_Greg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Santa Barbara, California
Posts: 179

Bikes: 2018 Trek Domane SL5; 1965 Peugeot PX10; 1974 Peugeot PX10E

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 59 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I know right? It痴 tempting to derust the frame and stick it in the attic and use the cool parts for other projects. I dunno what I値l end up doing.

Originally Posted by bikemig View Post
I would have bought that bike for $50 as it's my size as well but that's a heck of a project.
SB_Greg is offline  
Old 05-01-19, 07:10 PM
  #6  
SB_Greg 
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
SB_Greg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Santa Barbara, California
Posts: 179

Bikes: 2018 Trek Domane SL5; 1965 Peugeot PX10; 1974 Peugeot PX10E

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 59 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Right you are! First one I have handled. Cool!
Originally Posted by noobinsf View Post
That's not a 49d, but instead a model 105. .
SB_Greg is offline  
Old 05-01-19, 07:46 PM
  #7  
KenNC
Senior Member
 
KenNC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 194
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I'll bet the rust on the fork is superficial and it will clean up just fine. Then, since it was white, I'd be inclined to strip and prime and paint with rustoleum, and add some reproduction decals. A minimum investment in the frame, and then you can decide what you want to do with it! Not sure about that freewheel, but I restored a PX10 with that type of seatpost, and my seatpost was in worse shape than yours--yet it cleaned up just fine!

Surely there are some better screws for that head badge at your local hardware store....
KenNC is offline  
Old 05-01-19, 08:22 PM
  #8  
SB_Greg 
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
SB_Greg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Santa Barbara, California
Posts: 179

Bikes: 2018 Trek Domane SL5; 1965 Peugeot PX10; 1974 Peugeot PX10E

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 59 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts


Yeah there is gonna be some pitting

But it is tempting to attempt a restore instead of a restomod.
SB_Greg is offline  
Old 05-03-19, 03:50 PM
  #9  
verktyg 
verktyg
 
verktyg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 2,849

Bikes: Current favorites: 1988 Peugeot Birraritz, 1984 Gitane Super Corsa, 1981 Bianchi Campione Del Mondo, 1992 Paramount OS, 1990 Bianchi Mondiale, 1988 Colnago Technos, 1985 RalieghUSA Team Pro, 1973 Holdsworth

Mentioned: 124 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 477 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 11 Times in 9 Posts
Originally Posted by SB_Greg View Post


Yeah there is gonna be some pitting

But it is tempting to attempt a restore instead of a restomod.
A fully painted frame that should have chrome plating, especially on the "socks" - the lower parts of the forks and stays - is frequently an indicator that the chrome was rusted.

That's one reason you see a lot of frames like early 70's Gitanes that are fully repainted but should have been partially chromed.

To rechrome the frame and forks requires that the old chrome be electrochemically stripped - that's after the paint has been stripped.

After that, the pits in the surface caused by corrosion will have to be polished out before re-chroming. That gets VERY expensive.

Me and many other's opinion is that those kinds of expensive procedures should be reserved for rare high end frames or one that the owner is sentimentally attachment to. You could be looking at over $1000 in frame work for a complete bike that in mint condition may only be worth $600-$800.

I'd remove the rust, rattle can spray it and ride it.

I repainted several frames myself back in the 70's but since then I've only had one repainted.

I took a frame to a local painter to have one of the chain stays resprayed. He messed it up so did a complete repaint including stripping the old paint and restriping the lugs for a reduced price.

So now I have a 1973 Gitane Super Corsa frame that cost me ~$250 plus $300 for the repaint and $50 for the decals - $600 - that's now worth.... $250!

verktyg
__________________
Things aren't always what they seem... Don't believe everything you think!

Chas. ;-)

Last edited by verktyg; 05-03-19 at 08:12 PM.
verktyg is offline  
Old 05-03-19, 04:37 PM
  #10  
SB_Greg 
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
SB_Greg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Santa Barbara, California
Posts: 179

Bikes: 2018 Trek Domane SL5; 1965 Peugeot PX10; 1974 Peugeot PX10E

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 59 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thats my plan. Think I値l try matte black using this Spraybike stuff then get some reprodecals.

Its in the rust bath now!



Originally Posted by verktyg View Post

I'd remove the rust, rattle can spray it and ride it.

verktyg

Last edited by SB_Greg; 05-04-19 at 12:12 PM.
SB_Greg is offline  
Old 05-04-19, 12:09 PM
  #11  
SB_Greg 
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
SB_Greg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Santa Barbara, California
Posts: 179

Bikes: 2018 Trek Domane SL5; 1965 Peugeot PX10; 1974 Peugeot PX10E

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 59 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
As I am cleaning off the crankset I can see traces of gold anodization (like the brake calipers) left on the chain rings. I wonder if the crank arms were also once gold anodized.
SB_Greg is offline  
Old 05-05-19, 01:31 AM
  #12  
Giuanin
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 67
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 23 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts


Only the teeth (on several Stronglight/Spidel 107).
Giuanin is offline  
Old 05-05-19, 11:45 PM
  #13  
SB_Greg 
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
SB_Greg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Santa Barbara, California
Posts: 179

Bikes: 2018 Trek Domane SL5; 1965 Peugeot PX10; 1974 Peugeot PX10E

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 59 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Out of the rust bath and looking pretty good. Some pitting to the right fork but much better than expected. Crankset polishes and reassembled and real purdy.


Before


After


Last edited by SB_Greg; 05-06-19 at 04:05 PM.
SB_Greg is offline  
Old 05-14-19, 08:04 PM
  #14  
SB_Greg 
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
SB_Greg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Santa Barbara, California
Posts: 179

Bikes: 2018 Trek Domane SL5; 1965 Peugeot PX10; 1974 Peugeot PX10E

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 59 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Sanded, primed, and painted with a black matte by Spraybike. Stem polished up. Bought some bar end shifters. Also pulling the mafac brake levers and hoods off another px10 build of mine that was too big. Reassembly soon as I can get some wheels I like.




SB_Greg is offline  
Old 05-14-19, 10:06 PM
  #15  
scozim 
Ellensburg, WA
 
scozim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Ellensburg, WA
Posts: 3,383

Bikes: See my signature

Mentioned: 52 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 185 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
I'm not usually a matte paint fan - but I like the look of that, alot.
__________________
1984 Gitane Sprint; 1984 Gitane Tour de France; 1982 Trek 610; 1968 Peugeot PL8; 1982 Nishiki Marina 12; 1972 Peugeot PX-10; 1987 Trek 800 Antelope (touring/commuting set up); 1993 Trek 950 mtb; 1997 Klein Pulse Comp mtb; 1989 Peugeot Limestone hybrid (for touring); 1975 Gitane Olympic; 1983 Vitus 979; 1989 Spectrum Titanium:
scozim is offline  
Old 05-15-19, 03:51 AM
  #16  
verktyg 
verktyg
 
verktyg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 2,849

Bikes: Current favorites: 1988 Peugeot Birraritz, 1984 Gitane Super Corsa, 1981 Bianchi Campione Del Mondo, 1992 Paramount OS, 1990 Bianchi Mondiale, 1988 Colnago Technos, 1985 RalieghUSA Team Pro, 1973 Holdsworth

Mentioned: 124 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 477 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 11 Times in 9 Posts
WOW!

Turned out great! I like the chrome showing through the flat black paint on the fork crown. The chrome socks look great too.

verktyg
__________________
Things aren't always what they seem... Don't believe everything you think!

Chas. ;-)
verktyg is offline  
Old 05-15-19, 04:51 AM
  #17  
bikemig 
Senior Member
 
bikemig's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Middle Earth (aka IA)
Posts: 14,785

Bikes: A bunch of old bikes and a few new ones

Mentioned: 99 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3493 Post(s)
Liked 16 Times in 14 Posts
This is a cool bike. The stronglight 93 is just a beautiful crank. I'm rebuilding a 1982 PKN 10 which is in very good shape--other than some issues with the rear derailleur and a few other small issues--but I like the look of the older PX 10s a lot.
bikemig is online now  
Old 05-15-19, 08:57 AM
  #18  
SB_Greg 
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
SB_Greg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Santa Barbara, California
Posts: 179

Bikes: 2018 Trek Domane SL5; 1965 Peugeot PX10; 1974 Peugeot PX10E

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 59 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
So should I get decals or leave it plain?
SB_Greg is offline  
Old 05-15-19, 10:05 AM
  #19  
Aubergine 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Seattle and Reims
Posts: 2,908
Mentioned: 32 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 759 Post(s)
Liked 8 Times in 6 Posts
Originally Posted by SB_Greg View Post
So should I get decals or leave it plain?
To my eye that flat black needs a little color to perk it up. So I would add at least some decals.
__________________
Keeping Seattle痴 bike shops in business since 1978
Aubergine is offline  
Old 05-15-19, 10:43 AM
  #20  
The_Joe
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 336
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 50 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
What's your technique for polishing? That stem came out great!
The_Joe is offline  
Old 05-15-19, 10:44 AM
  #21  
Jesse B 
Member
 
Jesse B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Somerville, MA
Posts: 36

Bikes: '72 Peugeot PX10, '74 UO-8, '77 Peugeot PX10, '89 Peugeot Triathlon, '03 Cannondale R3000

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by SB_Greg View Post
So should I get decals or leave it plain?
Decals! I think they'd look awesome on that matte finish.
Jesse B is offline  
Old 05-15-19, 11:05 AM
  #22  
verktyg 
verktyg
 
verktyg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 2,849

Bikes: Current favorites: 1988 Peugeot Birraritz, 1984 Gitane Super Corsa, 1981 Bianchi Campione Del Mondo, 1992 Paramount OS, 1990 Bianchi Mondiale, 1988 Colnago Technos, 1985 RalieghUSA Team Pro, 1973 Holdsworth

Mentioned: 124 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 477 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 11 Times in 9 Posts
Stronglight 105bis Cranks

Originally Posted by bikemig View Post
This is a cool bike. The stronglight 93 is just a beautiful crank.
Bigmig,

Those are 1st generation Stronglight 105bis cranks. The "bis" addition indicated drillium chainrings. They're the same 122mm BCD as the Mod. 93 cranks. The 105 "ter" version had black anodized chainrings.

105 Cranks, 1st generation with STRONGLIGHT forged into the flutes.



105bis cranks with drillium chainrings and a Spidel sticker.



2nd generation 105bis cranks stamped Spidel instead of Stronglight. The crank arms were fluted front and rear.



Classic polished aluminum Mod 93 cranks.



BITD I had mixed feelings about the then new 105 cranks. On one hand they had a more stylish design with rounded edges plus they were anodized. On the other I liked and still like the polished aluminum 93 cranks.

When the "bis" drillium chainrings came along I changed my mind. The second generation 105bis cranks were even more likeable.

verktyg
__________________
Things aren't always what they seem... Don't believe everything you think!

Chas. ;-)

Last edited by verktyg; 05-15-19 at 11:10 AM.
verktyg is offline  
Old 05-15-19, 11:15 AM
  #23  
vintagerando 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 1,834
Mentioned: 22 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 390 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
@verktyg In the above photo of the Mod 93 cranks, you mentioned they are "polished". How do you get them to look this good? What do you use?
__________________
1967 Frejus
1968 Peugeot PX-10
1983 Peter Mooney
1995 Waterford 1200
1996 Waterford 1200
2003 Dahon Speed P8
2013 Rawland Stag
2016 Giant Defy Advanced Pro 0
vintagerando is online now  
Old 05-15-19, 11:31 AM
  #24  
SB_Greg 
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
SB_Greg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Santa Barbara, California
Posts: 179

Bikes: 2018 Trek Domane SL5; 1965 Peugeot PX10; 1974 Peugeot PX10E

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 59 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by The_Joe View Post
What's your technique for polishing? That stem came out great!
I値l give aluminum parts a good scrub with 0000 grade steel wool. Then I use 1000 then 2000 then 3000 grade sand paper with mother mag wipe downs in between every stage. Then I値l end with several rounds of Mothers Mag.
SB_Greg is offline  
Old 05-15-19, 11:41 AM
  #25  
vintagerando 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 1,834
Mentioned: 22 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 390 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Originally Posted by SB_Greg View Post
I値l give aluminum parts a good scrub with 0000 grade steel wool. Then I use 1000 then 2000 then 3000 grade sand paper with mother mag wipe downs in between every stage. Then I値l end with several rounds of Mothers Mag.
Doesn't the steel wool remove the finish?
__________________
1967 Frejus
1968 Peugeot PX-10
1983 Peter Mooney
1995 Waterford 1200
1996 Waterford 1200
2003 Dahon Speed P8
2013 Rawland Stag
2016 Giant Defy Advanced Pro 0
vintagerando is online now  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright ゥ 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.