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Decisions! 80ís KHS Team Pro with SL or Cilo with SLX?

Old 05-12-19, 06:27 PM
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Decisions! 80ís KHS Team Pro with SL or Cilo with SLX?

Hi All,

Iím torn. I want to pick up both of these bikes, but donít have the funds. Can you help me make a decision?

1) KHS Team Pro, all Suntour Superbe Pro components, Columbus SL tubing, Cinelli BB, campy dropouts, made in Taiwan, in great shape and lovely pink and purple color scheme. Might be just too big for me.

2) Cilo (donít know model) with Columbus SLX tubing, mix of Sante and 600 parts, cool paint and chrome fork, handmade in Switzerland.

both have Mavic MA40 wheels.

the KHS is 1/2 the price of the Cilo.

Help me before I buy both and sleep on the couch for the rest of the year!

TIA!






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Old 05-12-19, 06:57 PM
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You really need a pink and purple bike. No brainer.
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Originally Posted by horatio View Post
You really need a pink and purple bike. No brainer.
Hahaha! Yes! The KHS does look fantabulous!
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Pretty is nice.
Sweet components are nice.
But fit is nicer.
Go with the best fit.
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KHS if it fits. Suntour Superbe is soooo fine to use.
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Buy the bike that fits, imho
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Those bikes can't both be a good fit. Go with the one that is.

(I'm diggin' that Cilo though.)
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I wouldn't be able to pick, either.
I've had both SL and SLX frames, have them now, can't really tell.
I've also had an SLX Cilo, and it was fine.

If they both fit, go with the better components, because the frame is a split hair.
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Neither.

KHS is too large for you; condition of the Cilo is too rough/oxidized to command a premium price.

There will be other bikes.

I suspect that you will not regret waiting for the right one: great fit and affordable price.

Best wishes for your next bike!

meanwhile you are not sleeping on the couch...
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How's the couch?
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KHS is too large for you; condition of the Cilo is too rough/oxidized to command a premium price.
+1; If you can get the Cilo for the KHS price, buy it. Tell the seller you have another option, a bike in much better condition for $xxx, but a bit too big. You'd rather buy the Cilo if you can get it for the same price.
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Was scheduled to pick up the KHS yesterday, however, I ended up with a horrible case of food poisoning from motherís day brunch, and had to cancel. Iím still waiting for the seller to get back and reschedule. Meanwhile, Iím also giving the Cilo seller a bit more time on the market. I think he is a bit overpriced for the condition itís in. Maybe some time will help my negotiations (Iím horrible at negotiating!)

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I wouldn't be able to pick, either.
I've had both SL and SLX frames, have them now, can't really tell.
I've also had an SLX Cilo, and it was fine.

If they both fit, go with the better components, because the frame is a split hair.
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The Cilo SLX (yes, that is the model name) is circa 1987 while the KHS John Howard Team Pro is 1986 (hmm, where have I seen this one before ). The KHS' condition is excellent while the Cilo is only fair. SLX is one step above SL but is marginally heavier due to the helical ribs that increase BB rigidity. Still, most riders can't tell the difference. in either wight or rigidity. The Superbe Pro on the KHS is great friction gear, however the Santť and New 600EX mix on the Cilo is no slouch and does have indexing. The Swiss Cilo is the more desirable brand over the Taiwanese Cilo. Even though the Cilo has more street credibility and I'm typically a Shimano guy, and SLX is one step above SL, I'd be leaning heavily towards the KHS based on the condition and price, provided it fits.
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Originally Posted by T-Mar View Post
The Cilo SLX (yes, that is the model name) is circa 1987 while the KHS John Howard Team Pro is 1986 (hmm, where have I seen this one before ). The KHS' condition is excellent while the Cilo is only fair. SLX is one step above SL but is marginally heavier due to the helical ribs that increase BB rigidity. Still, most riders can't tell the difference. in either wight or rigidity. The Superbe Pro on the KHS is great friction gear, however the Santť and New 600EX mix on the Cilo is no slouch and does have indexing. The Swiss Cilo is the more desirable brand over the Taiwanese Cilo. Even though the Cilo has more street credibility and I'm typically a Shimano guy, and SLX is one step above SL, I'd be leaning heavily towards the KHS based on the condition and price, provided it fits.
So, I decided to take your advice and go with the KHS and scheduled to meet the buyer. He is located in Orange County, and Iím about 90 mins away with zero traffic. We were scheduled to meet halfway, but then I got a stomach flu and had to cancel (contacted the evening before). He must now think Iím a flake because he wonít return my messages. Itís a shame, because I really would like to get the bike, and am even debating driving the 3 hours to get it. Also, the Cilo sold so I lost out on BOTH bikes

oh well. In the mean time I picked up a completely original 1983 Trek 720, and an early 1970ís Gitane Professional Tour de France Iíll be sure to update if the seller changes his mind and sells me the bike.
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