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Old 05-25-19, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by randyjawa View Post
Again, I repeat my praise for Mafac brakes but one thing does bug the hoha out of me - the half hoods...



And you better have some long fingers to reach those brake levers.....small handed folk(POTUS)🤡 will find them difficult to reach.
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Old 05-25-19, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by cudak888 View Post
CLB-2's.

...if you don't mind weird hardware, proprietary pad holders, and a self-energizing design that can throw you over the bars if you're too eager with them.




Meh, probably not the best choice in the first place then

-Kurt
For wet weather and steel rims.
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Old 05-25-19, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by repechage View Post
For wet weather and steel rims.
Oh yea, they'll work!

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Old 05-25-19, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by The Golden Boy View Post
Is there a way to mill or lathe down "regular" pad stems?

I guess I'd do it, but it seems like a whole lot of "work" to spin the pad on sandpaper...
I would think you could chuck it up pretty easy in a 4 jaw chuck on a mini lathe.
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Old 05-25-19, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 88Tempo View Post
I would think you could chuck it up pretty easy in a 4 jaw chuck on a mini lathe.
How would you do this? I'm unfamiliar with the equipment you're talking about. (I'm not much of a "tool"guy- I've got a grinder out in the garage. )

You'd have to grip the shoe and narrow the post.
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Old 05-25-19, 11:22 AM
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I'm not super familiar with lathes, but I've done some milling. Anyhow a 4 jaw chuck is what they use on a lathe to hold oddly shaped objects. If they don't build a fixture to hold a specific object.

There is a whole forum dedicated to small mills and lathes. Some of those guys do some awesome work on those tiny machines.
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Old 05-25-19, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by gugie View Post
Worst centerpull brakes: MAFACs set up poorly with old pads
Best centerpull brakes: MAFACs set up properly with new salmon pads.
I would agree. My Mondia came with Mafac racer brakes and after understanding all the finer adjustments that can be done , they stop really well and modulation is perfect. Mine came with Madison pads that were still in great shape (no squeal). At the time, I still had Universal c'pull on my Windsor and the Mafac seemed a bit better. I switched the Windsor over to Campagnolo NR side pull mainly for looks and to get rid of the cable hangers but they don't seem to stop quite as well as the c'pull brakes. I think the key is #1 set up , #2 good pads and then the opinion is up to the user. Joe
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Old 05-25-19, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 88Tempo View Post
I would think you could chuck it up pretty easy in a 4 jaw chuck on a mini lathe.
Oh, I see how that works now. Duh. Mini lathe would be a fun tool.
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Old 05-25-19, 12:01 PM
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Even tho I like the Paul Racers for a bunch of reasons, the Mafac Racer is my favorite classic CP. I like the Racer because you can make your own cross cables AND because you can install the Compass brass bushings which are a significant improvement over the now 40 year old plastic bushings. Roller straddles are cool too, if they appeal to you.

I don't trust old school cross wires. If one of those pops, you are down to one brake. It will let go at the worst possible moment.

Of course, use new pads of your choice, the best wires and housing you can find, properly rigged, and if possible the Weinmann levers which are the best, again IMHO.

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@Salamandrine

Yes it would I bought a Micromark mini mill a while back and I wish I would of got one of the lathes at the same time.
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Old 05-26-19, 10:23 PM
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I ride a Dia Comp center pull equipped Schwinn Sports Tourer. Extremely powerful brakes. Very easy to set up, very easy to take off the wheels with pressurized tires. I'm running flat handlebars and using a pair of short pull Paul Love brake levers with these brakes. The Paul levers are the best levers I've ever used in several respects. I've owned Weinmann, Mafac, and Dia Comp center pulls and all were better than the sidepulls of their era. Less hand effort for more braking power.
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Old 05-27-19, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Slightspeed View Post
I prefer to use the modern, slender, but slightly longer pad holder and pads. These have a washer that allows the pad to angle a little from parallel to the rim. Stops better, and reduces squeal with a little toe in.
Likewise. I have the more modern long skinny pads, but cheapies (Clark's) on my old Fuji with DiaCompe centerpulls. Stops better than it did with the old pads...

The Univega Viva and Miyata 710 were 'upgraded' to dual pivots. The Miyata with a used set of Nashbar, and the Uni with Tektro. Both of these stop better than my old Fuji. All three got new slick lined cables, but the Uni and Miyata have aero levers. So I'm not sure if the difference in braking can be ascribed to levers, brake design, or quality of new pads..
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Old 05-27-19, 12:49 PM
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Big thanks to @88Tempo for beginning this fascinating discussion.

Have been following along with interest and appreciate all the the excellent posts.

Occurred to me that there are quite a number, of perhaps unloved(?), centrepull models which have not as yet been mentioned.

Some of the models thought of include Alfa, Super Alfa, Altenburger, Balilla Corsa 61, Centric (CZ), Cherry, CLB Racer, GB Coureur 66, Iris, Super Olimpic, Yoshikawa & Zeus 2000.

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MAFAC has received a good deal of discussion, all of it about the Racer model.

Wondering if any readers would like to comment on models such as Top 63, Tiger, Competition, Raid, etc.

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@juvela thanks for the kind words.

I'm glad for all the responses, I actually had no idea there were so many different models. Now I really want to find a set of those CLB2 brakes, I'm not sure why but I like them.

I only have two sets of centerpulls and testing just a few minutes ago noticed quite a bit more flex with Dia Compes versus the Weinmann.

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Old 05-28-19, 04:37 PM
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Early Shimano Dura Ace brakes are great.
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Early Shimano Dura Ace brakes are great.
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These are Tourneys with a bit better finish.

If someone likes them they should be happy with Tourneys as well...

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here are some from ebay Italy

https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-kit-fr...T/113754520500

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I wish my son knew bikes better. He's in Italy right now he could be looking for all kinds of neat old bike stuff.
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