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bicybike 06-17-19 06:43 PM

What is this stuff on my new bike?
 
I picked up a 1985 Trek 720 to restore, and found this stuff on the side of the top tube. Anyone know what it is/how to remove it without damaging the frame or much of the paint?https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...49a458c68a.jpg
Resin maybe?

Also, while I have you here...anyone know what this flaky stuff in the seat tube is?https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...eb58f42ef0.jpg I've read not to worry much about a bit of rust as long as I clean it out. But the flaking is a bit weird?

3speedslow 06-17-19 06:45 PM

Frame saver maybe? Can you use a fingernail to scratch part of the stuff off the top tube?

mrv 06-17-19 06:48 PM

weird - is that a blistered decal? looks a bit bubbly.

it think there was some galling in your seat tube (with the seat post). My LBS has this drill attachment. It's got all these little stiff wire brushes that would kind of clean that up. It's kind of like a burnishing tool, maybe. A quick google search didn't find it for me. But I would think a quick touch up with a DREMEL wire brush or something similar would smooth things up for you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galling

bicybike 06-17-19 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by 3speedslow (Post 20983700)
Frame saver maybe? Can you use a fingernail to scratch part of the stuff off the top tube?

A very small amount scratches/comes off to my fingernail mostly it's pretty hardened on

bicybike 06-17-19 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by mrv (Post 20983706)
weird - is that a blistered decal? looks a bit bubbly.

it think there was some galling in your seat tube (with the seat post). My LBS has this drill attachment. It's got all these little stiff wire brushes that would kind of clean that up. It's kind of like a burnishing tool, maybe. A quick google search didn't find it for me. But I would think a quick touch up with a DREMEL wire brush or something similar would smooth things up for you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galling

Ooh good to know. Thanks! Don't think it's a blistered decal. It's pretty hard and doesn't feel like vinyl or plastic

xiaoman1 06-17-19 07:15 PM

Too bad there isn't a clear top coating on the frame because there is a danger of removing the decals.
The stuff on the tube might be glue, if this frame was mine I would get a q-tip and wet it with water and dab around the edges to see if it softens (staying away from the decal)...if that does not help, I would try mineral spirits in the same way...if that seems to soften the goo great...looks like a bit of the decal has already lifted...be careful and good luck.
Best, Ben

Fahrenheit531 06-17-19 08:59 PM

Looks like old dried epoxy or some other form of glue. Or maybe it started off as tree sap; if you get lucky you might even find a mosquito frozen in amber! Perhaps he was the most hated guy in the club and it's an old loogie (lugie?) that never got wiped off.

I try not to think too much about what precisely I'm cleaning off of a new acquisition. ;)

Oh, and those are clearly alien spores inside the seat tube. Clean or quarantine, but do it quick.

obrentharris 06-17-19 09:22 PM

I think @Fahrenheit531 may be on to something. The stuff on the top tube looks like the sap that the Douglas Firs dropped on my car at my last house. If it's sap rubbing alcohol, applied carefully, will eventually remove it. Careful though, a little bit each day and rinse well after each use. It can remove the paint too.
Brent

Chombi1 06-17-19 11:46 PM

Careful!, it might be a rider's lugey that hardened and petrified itself on the top tube!:eek:

bicybike 06-18-19 12:48 AM

Haha... Well regardless despite my initial frustration I managed to get it off without too much additional damage to the decal. The bike is pretty scuffed up, but otherwise in good shape to ride once I get the new wheels, brakes, and rear derailleur on...

rseeker 06-18-19 03:40 AM

I wouldn't mind seeing the whole bike as it is now, as "before" pictures.

fishboy316 06-18-19 04:21 AM

Nice bike. 720 has a great ride. Enjoy!

mixteup 06-18-19 06:12 AM

[QUOTE=Fahrenheit531;20983882 Or maybe it started off as tree sap; if you get lucky you might even find a mosquito frozen in amber! [/QUOTE]

This - It's pine sap / resin

T-Mar 06-18-19 07:42 AM

My immediate thought, before reading through the posts, was also tree sap.

krazikev 06-18-19 08:38 AM

Looks like rust to me

The Golden Boy 06-18-19 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by 3speedslow (Post 20983700)
Frame saver maybe? Can you use a fingernail to scratch part of the stuff off the top tube?

That would be my guess- once that stuff is on- it’s very “on.”

I’m glad you got it off.

conspiratemus1 06-19-19 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by mixteup (Post 20984212)
This - It's pine sap / resin

aka balsam in our neck of the woods. One of my late mother's early-married-life cookbooks contains this transcription of an observation from (?three-year-old) me: "Giggy [my first attempt at saying "Grandpa", which stuck] uses Esso Escra to get the blossom off his hands." Context unknown but preserved lovingly to this day in my sister's attic.

The Golden Boy 06-19-19 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by bicybike (Post 20983690)
I picked up a 1985 Trek 720 to restore,


And since we've gotten this far into the thread...

A 1985 Trek 720 you say...

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