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Old 06-20-19, 11:17 AM
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Well, I guess I don't

Today a coworker came up to me:

Coworker: "I've heard you know a thing or two about bicycles"
Me: "Well, I guess I do"
Coworker: "What does error code 16 mean?"
Me: "......."

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Sounds pretty high on the list. Must mean trash the whole di2 and get a real man's system.
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Old 06-20-19, 12:11 PM
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I figure I'll feel that way the first time I try working on indexed shifters.
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Old 06-20-19, 12:28 PM
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Did you explain that error code 16 means that one of at least sixteen possible problems has occurred?
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I would have told him (with a very straight face, and deadpan delivery) it meant his shoes were too tight.
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It means you have a stupid e-bike.
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Yet one additional good reason to abide with analog.


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Amen, brother. At least with analog, we know exactly where to place the blame. 🤔😁
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Error 16 - Worm alert. User's e-bike has established a bluetooth link with his vape stick. Each device had a hidden a component of worm code that, when combined and executed, has hacked into his iPay account and drained it dry.

Solution - User is advised to buy an old Hawthorne and become Amish.
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Originally Posted by non-fixie View Post
Today a coworker came up to me:

Coworker: "I've heard you know a thing or two about bicycles"
Me: "Well, I guess I do"
Coworker: "What does error code 16 mean?"
Me: "......."

Tell him to turn it off and on again, might buy you some time to look it up.
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Tell him to turn it off and on again, might buy you some time to look it up.
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Originally Posted by USAZorro View Post
It means you have a stupid e-bike.
Indeed, and the only thing I could think of at that moment ...

The "bike" in question is a Van Moof:


For an e-bike it doesn't look too bad, IMO, and at 42 lbs it's not that heavy either. However, it takes four hours to fully charge, and you do need a phone (or watch) app to operate it.
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Why does no one understand that e-bikes aren't bikes they are mopeds.

Another way to answer it:

Coworker: "I've heard you know a thing or two about bicycles"
Me: "Well, I guess I do"
Coworker: "What does error code 16 mean?"
Me: "It means the oil level in the bottom bracket converter is low"


Then watch the coworker attempt to find and oil it.
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Originally Posted by Salamandrine View Post
Why does no one understand that e-bikes aren't bikes they are mopeds.

Another way to answer it:

Coworker: "I've heard you know a thing or two about bicycles"
Me: "Well, I guess I do"
Coworker: "What does error code 16 mean?"
Me: "It means the oil level in the bottom bracket converter is low"


Then watch the coworker attempt to find and oil it.
except when they aren't.
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Originally Posted by Salamandrine View Post
Why does no one understand that e-bikes aren't bikes they are mopeds.

Another way to answer it:

Coworker: "I've heard you know a thing or two about bicycles"
Me: "Well, I guess I do"
Coworker: "What does error code 16 mean?"
Me: "It means the oil level in the bottom bracket converter is low"


Then watch the coworker attempt to find and oil it.
Originally Posted by -holiday76 View Post
except when they aren't.
on the path to A&S forum discussion here
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Originally Posted by squirtdad View Post
on the path to A&S forum discussion here
all im sayin' is "dont be ignant". A PAS system where you have to pedal to move, but the assist makes you pedal like superman is not a moped. But whatever. Error Code 'who cares'.
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Sooooooo FUNY! Is that part of someone's standup comedy routine? I'm still laughing.
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"Sell Van Moof."

Seriously, tell him to go download SmartMoof so he can get a readout of the error code.

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Sounds like buying that bike was a "DumbMoof"....

Wow, my truck doesn't even have a computer. Now you have to carry a spy device just to ride your bike?
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Originally Posted by non-fixie View Post
Indeed, and the only thing I could think of at that moment ...

The "bike" in question is a Van Moof:


For an e-bike it doesn't look too bad, IMO, and at 42 lbs it's not that heavy either. However, it takes four hours to fully charge, and you do need a phone (or watch) app to operate it.
It has an "automatic 2 speed hub"

2 speed?

Two?


My 3 speeds use tech from 1902...
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I’m surprised with all this fun-poking, no one’s gone to look up the actual answer
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Real bikes don't have batteries save for lights, they don't have firmware or error codes. I am a C&V person, I do just fine with C&V hardware. Steel is real!!! In Velo Veritas!!!
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Originally Posted by Darth Lefty View Post
I’m surprised with all this fun-poking, no one’s gone to look up the actual answer
I did. See above - advised that owner download SmartMoof which pulls extra data from the bike (supposedly more than the normal VanMoof app).

Van Moof does not list ANY error codes on their site (if the company is reading this, I wish you to know this is very unhelpful, you Moofers), and Google doesn't even bring up a solution to any specific error code:
https://www.google.com/search?q=vanmoof+error+16&rlz=1C1PRFI_enUS848US848&oq=van+moof+error&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l3.3170j0j4 &sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Someone on Twitter complained about Error 27 (others Error 29), and this also went on to be unhelpfully unexplained:
https://twitter.com/danielkegel/stat...458692?lang=en

And then there's the only one actual reference to error 16...and 27, 27, and 05, by a very angry client on Facebook:

Has the owner of this ScamPoof reached out to the company yet? Sounds stupid for him to ask around unless the company has ignored him. It's like asking some carburetor guru to figure out why your Bugatti Chiron won't start.

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