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oldbikenewbike 07-03-19 03:39 PM

I'm just going to be putting regular bar tape on, not even the padded/cork type. Close enough to correct, lol!

The chrome is coming out even better than I had hoped for. And it turns out that the front derailleur is Dura Ace, not 600 like I had assumed.
Also, when I took off the grab-ons, check out what was lurking beneath. The alloy handlebars are PIVO...but forgive my ignorance as I'm not sure as to who else used these. I can barely make out France. I'm sure someone will let me know! :speedy:
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3dc471d0f7.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e599ce9d64.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...417512e3f9.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...70141edef8.jpg

unworthy1 07-04-19 10:24 AM

Interesting frame from the "later years" of Windsor when they definitely were sourcing Tange cro-mo tubing for SOME models, and a lot more Japanese components as this one sports, but given that those appear to be unstamped GPM (Gipiemme) dropouts I would agree that it could be some flavor of Columbus tubing(as Juvela mentioned). I'm surprised with the (looks like) bulge-formed fork crown, despite the chrome it cheapens the package, I think. If you take the fork off see if there's any markings on the steerer. And such a weird mix of components (Japan, Italy and France!) I wonder what of this gruppo is OEM and how much is "custom" by the PO...?

juvela 07-04-19 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by fietsbob (Post 21007692)
Might be old enough to be from the Mexican company..

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As opposed to what?


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Don Federico -

stem/bar note -

prior to rewrapping bar would be wise of check the set for size compatibility

cycle's Dia-Compe stem is most likely a 25.4mm clamp size while one would expect a PIVO bar to exhibit a 25.0mm centre

note the five threads showing on the binder

mismatches at this locus are unsafe :(

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ba8d0f23ab.jpg

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fietsbob 07-04-19 12:05 PM


As opposed to what?
Brand names are commodities, to be sold and bought , now Bikes Direct has an Asian contract factory ,
putting Windsor and Motobecane on frames and building the bikes they sell .. to you..

lots of 80's brand names have been sold.. its just Business ..

Manny66 07-04-19 04:27 PM

Ive got an Orange one,its a little different .https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c8d04f9bba.jpg

juvela 07-04-19 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by fietsbob (Post 21011255)
Brand names are commodities, to be sold and bought , now Bikes Direct has an Asian contract factory ,
putting Windsor and Motobecane on frames and building the bikes they sell .. to you..

lots of 80's brand names have been sold.. its just Business ..

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Thanks very much for the clarification [MENTION=197614]fietsbob[/MENTION]! :thumb:

My error.

Misunderstood your post to suggest there were ACER-MEX Windsor cycles made in a second country.

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There have been other Windsor badges in the past which were not a case of private labelling.

Two of the nations which produced them were Gaul and Nippon.

Here are two examples done in Paris. The first dated 1930 and the second 1936.

1930 -

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...31256e5efb.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...d91eab7d12.jpg


1936 -

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...297bbbed6e.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...5e4c8a4c66.jpg

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fietsbob 07-05-19 08:43 AM

At the time of the Mexico City Olympics , shortly thereafter , the Professional bike racer Eddy Merckx

rode a DeRosa made custom track bike, on that high altitude velodrome, to set a new Hour record,
It wore logos for Windsor , a local sponsor ..

Now that Mr Merckx has his own Belgian Bike company that Italian made frame
has been repainted with his company logo ..

and is displayed in the front office ...






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oldbikenewbike 07-05-19 03:44 PM

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...d2738304ab.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...0cb3933684.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...58fd69552d.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1f6a3a3fb4.jpg
Cleanup is coming along nicely. And as I was hoping, the hubs are in perfect condition. This is just using WD-40 and a paper towel.

Oh...and here is the serial number in case anyone into Windor's would like it.

oldbikenewbike 07-06-19 10:52 PM

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...81a68c6759.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...d030821eb8.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e41e411343.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a2fb5b4875.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...54a08b4a03.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ce8b956d08.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...aed4ac027e.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...dc3e3d2b9c.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e5115049a1.jpg
All done. To bad that it's to small a frame for me, but I'll keep it for a while as eye candy.

oldbikenewbike 07-25-19 04:42 AM

Now that it's finished...what would be a good estimate on its value? I'm tempted to sell it locally.

bertinjim 07-25-19 05:03 AM

That really has turned out nicely. I would think a $300 - 400 price would be reasonable in the New York area. Check your local Craigslist for similar bikes to cross check. If you do decide on a sale, perhaps consider the Classic & Vintage for sale area here to reach a specific audience of enthusiasts.

oldbikenewbike 07-29-19 05:21 AM

Thanks [MENTION=297217]bertinjim[/MENTION]. I'll give it a try here on the New York Craigslist...possibly even Facebook. I do not want to take it apart for shipping, so a pick-up will be needed. And yes, this will certainly limit my audience.

Like I said, it's just to bad that it wasn't a taller frame. I never see these here on Long Island for Sale, so this was quite a surprise when this one popped up, and being a one owner bike was even more of a surprise.:)


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