I cheat and put a couple of small pieces around the brake levers to cover up the spot that is usually missed when your figure 8 doesn't go as well as you thought it would. If you're an expert tape wrapper I'm sure you'd be offended watching me do this, but I've never been called out for it after the fact.
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With all the help here I was able to figure out where my mistake had been. One, I've been using a flimsy bike stand leading to 2, not wrapping tight enough. Thanks everyone for the help
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:thumb:
I always wrap bars with the bike on the ground. I have a display stand like this, https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/s...EhA9w&usqp=CAc and I steady the front wheel between my legs. |
Originally Posted by robertj298
(Post 21033982)
With all the help here I was able to figure out where my mistake had been. One, I've been using a flimsy bike stand leading to 2, not wrapping tight enough. Thanks everyone for the help
Keeping tension is key. Quite possibly THE key. |
I unwrapped both bars and rewrapped them using the same tape and while not perfect they look 100% better.
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One more thing,
As nice as full coverage can be, don't sweat it too much if there's that gap near the brake levers. I have them on this bike, and I really like the tape on it just the way it is. Had it out for 28 mostly rainy miles today. All smiles. After all, it's just tape. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b1ce0b922e.jpg |
Originally Posted by ksryder
(Post 21033709)
About every 10th attempt I do a phenomenal job... but then I can never remember exactly what I did that time that made it good.
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I put the front wheel between my legs and face towards the back of the bike. This puts my eyes right over the handlebars. With each wrap, I look at the top and bottom of the bar to make sure the tape is flat and overlaps the right amount.
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Originally Posted by Lascauxcaveman
(Post 21034412)
You get lucky, every tenth time, IME. :thumb:
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If you wrap right you don't want to use the adhesive back tape. Did work on a friends bike with the white Miami vice taped bars that were ripped and dirty. Reversed the wrapping and he thought I put new tape on.
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Yup, bike on the floor (though I usually lean it against my sturdy workbench and tape the near side, then turn the bike around)
Starting at the center is a new one for me. Do you start the tape.at the side of the hood then take the rear facing piece and go forward and vice versa? I've always started at the bar end., one full wrap then forward, always wrapping with the tape coming over the top and headed in. First I cut 3 pieces of tape from the end of a previous roll and tape under the hoods. No "X" under the brake, just one pass. Electrical tape at the top to finish, wrapped same direction as the tape and cut just behind the brake cable. (I never unwrap it with my hand while climbing.) Recent years, I've been putting on two layers of tape. First later uses old tape. Continuous doesn't matter so I just cut all the worn sections out and butt the tape. For me, tape is all about "the ride". I'm an ex-racer. Haven't for many decades but it is still in my blood. I love to climb; as hard as my body will let me. I wear out tape on a regular basis with the heels of my palms, both behind the hoods and behind the drop curve. (And develop deep calluses there.) I no longer go through two plus rolls/summer but still, a lot. Most of my bikes still use black cloth, the tape I raced. (I do have to admit the thin Fizik plastic tape is a bargain. Feels very nice and lasts forever. It's on my geared ti bike.) Two layers now for a little bigger bar to grip with my older hands and a little cushier. Also tape saving. First wear through now doesn't show bare bar. As interesting as the center start seems, I may never do it because in addition to being more work (gotta get those lengths right and deal with unrolled tape), it makes moving the levers later far harder. (Again, ex-racer here. Fit is paramount. And no, I do not ride Paramounts because the C&V ones did not fit me very well. :) ) Ben |
Originally Posted by TenGrainBread
(Post 21032540)
I have a guaranteed way for getting good:
Quit your job and make $12/hr working at a bike shop. |
I'm not the best at wrapping tape, but it's an art I get better at the more I do.
Interestingly the second side I do every time looks better than the first side - anyone else notice this? |
I got pretty good at it- then kind of stopped messing with the bikes... I noticed the last 2 bikes I've wrapped are not so good- just did another one- again... not so good.
I guess I'll need to practice more. Like redoing the last 2 botched jobs. |
Originally Posted by BFisher
(Post 21034070)
One more thing,
As nice as full coverage can be, don't sweat it too much if there's that gap near the brake levers. I have them on this bike, and I really like the tape on it just the way it is. Had it out for 28 mostly rainy miles today. All smiles. After all, it's just tape. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b1ce0b922e.jpg |
Gracias, @seedsbelize.
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Anyone remember the loop around the brake lever method that used to be used when many levers did not come with hoods? It was sort of a variation of the figure 8 method, and it also worked well with mafac half hoods. It's been so long I've forgotten how to do it. I remember some people hilariously still trying to wrap bars that way when thicker tape came out.
These days I always use cut strips for the gap, and don't bother with a figure 8. It's not needed if you're careful. Besides, there isn't enough tape on a velox roll to do a Cinelli #66 bar if you do that extra loop. BTW, yeah it's true. In vintage days many bikes were sold brand new with no brake hoods at all. |
Much as I appreciate the Park Tool videos, they tend to be longer than necessary. Here's the most succinct bar wrapping demo I've found. Peter Sagan's tech needs a whopping 2 minutes from start to finish for both sides.
Note that this demo shows wrapping around the brake hoods to cover it, rather than using short strips and wrapping over those. But the basic technique is the same. The easiest bar wrap I've found is Arundel Synth Gecko. It's 100% silicone, thick, soft, grippy, durable and can be washed and rewrapped many times -- but be careful to avoid cuts and tears against sharp edges around the brake hoods and bar ends. No adhesive backing, the rubbery material sticks to itself about like a Post-It Note. It resists taking a set or permanent curl, so it can be reused without duplicating the previous wrap. When first removed after use it will appear to have taken a set, but it will straighten out within a day or so. The only downsides are the bulk and weight. It can't be wrapped flat like cloth, cello or some foam/cork tapes, including Arundel's own. Synth Gecko resembles a gooseneck lamp neck or flexible conduit, a bit chunky and sausage-like. But it's so comfy and grippy I prefer it for long rides on rural chipseal and rough pavement. Really tames the road buzz. I use it on my early '90s Trekenstein 5900. The Ironman is already so forgiving I just use regular foam/cork tape -- Arundel, Eclypse, whatever I have in the bin. Synth Gecko is pricey at $30-$35, but actually a good value because it can be rewrapped. No worries if you need a few tries to get the wrap to your liking. |
Originally Posted by Salamandrine
(Post 21036400)
Anyone remember the loop around the brake lever method that used to be used when many levers did not come with hoods? It was sort of a variation of the figure 8 method, and it also worked well with mafac half hoods. It's been so long I've forgotten how to do it. I remember some people hilariously still trying to wrap bars that way when thicker tape came out.
These days I always use cut strips for the gap, and don't bother with a figure 8. It's not needed if you're careful. Besides, there isn't enough tape on a velox roll to do a Cinelli #66 bar if you do that extra loop. BTW, yeah it's true. In vintage days many bikes were sold brand new with no brake hoods at all. |
Originally Posted by canklecat
(Post 21032789)
Cut an old tube into strips. Use it to practice wrapping. Also good as padding between the bar and nicer cosmetic tape.
Cheers |
Originally Posted by canklecat
(Post 21036901)
Synth Gecko is pricey at $30-$35, but actually a good value because it can be rewrapped. No worries if you need a few tries to get the wrap to your liking.
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Originally Posted by Lascauxcaveman
(Post 21032784)
Heh. Wrap from the top down, and the only finishing is putting the plugs in the bar ends :)
But I did put some unnecessary "finishing" on my Raleigh by adding an underlayer of complimentary colored hockey tape (again, wrapped top down): https://live.staticflickr.com/4439/3...1efb2a62_c.jpg |
Originally Posted by noglider
(Post 21039712)
I have some Brooks synthetic tape I'll be trying. It got bad reviews, so we will see.
https://live.staticflickr.com/8403/2...9e2606c1_b.jpg But the bar end plugs it comes with are cool. I put 'em on one of my keepers. Shoulda gone with honey Fizik. |
Here's the Arundel Synth Gecko wrap as of today. I've rewrapped it a few times this year.
I already had generic black foam tape on the bar but wanted a little extra for the weekend rides. So I did the quick and dirty wrap, top-down, no electrical tape, finishing at the bar ends, using plugs to hold the wraps. Not as elegant but I'm planning to rewrap again soon after replacing the brake cable housings. It's a meaty looking wrap. Like sausages. Or flexible metal conduit. The other colors would look less meaty than the yellow. https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...eafd55e16.jpeg Arundel Synth Gecko wrap on the Trekenstein 5900. Hey, the hi-viz yellow clashes nicely with the purple frame. |
Originally Posted by due ruote
(Post 21039726)
I am curious. Do you always wrap this way - ie both sides in the same direction? I always reverse the sides so they are mirror images. But I am thinking your way might be cool with striped Benotto.
It always seems to come out more or less OK, as long as I manage to get both brake levers at more or less the same elevation :p |
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