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Old 07-29-19, 09:00 PM
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1971 Raleigh Pro

I'll spare you the boring story of how I had to check my phone 15,000 times this weekend, hoping the guy would reply. He finally did. It's a perfect fit and only missing original wheels and saddle. I keep going out just to look at it!
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Old 07-29-19, 09:13 PM
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Well unless I'm mistaken those look like Phil hubs so yeah, I wouldn't be too broken up about the originals not being there.

I'm confused by "going out" to look at it though. That sucker ought to be in, and you should be looking at it from the couch.

And oh by the way, I'm totally jealous. Nice ride.
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Old 07-29-19, 09:22 PM
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I wish they were PW hubs! More like $99 commuter special replacements. They do have Weinmann rims and ride pretty nice. "Out" is out in the hallway...by the way.
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...Campy Record hubs are not that hard to find, even these days. They're probably a little pricey, but if you build new wheels with some of the nicely appropriate newer rims available today, you'll get better performance with a clincher tyre anyway. And if you're like me, if you had tubular rims and tyres on it, you'd ride it less.
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Old 07-29-19, 09:43 PM
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One of my hobbies lately has been "unbuilding" tubular wheels that have piled up over the years, to save the hubs!
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Old 07-29-19, 10:03 PM
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The Gran Prix stem from Tecno Tubo Torino suggests machine manufactured in 1970.

It may have been a nominal 1971 model and/or purchased new in 1971.

OTOH it does express the Brampton Victor for which the 1971 model year was the first year.


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Old 07-30-19, 12:36 AM
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Score! Love it.
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Thanks for the info. It does have the "70" Nuovo rear der. It's pretty murky water trying to pin these guys down, but the chrome stays seem to make it an MKIII? Info available seems to indicate that Raleigh didn't care much what time of year it was to revise the Pro line.
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I would have checked my phone more than 15,000 times if I was trying to land this bike!
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It looks like a nice example of a mark II. Depending on your intended use, you could equip it to suit, and ride it, or restore to perfection.

I generally "restomod" bikes if I'm going to ride them. In particular the gears are just too high for me - at least on the hills of Bainbridge island.

that saddle has gotta go ! You can find a nice brooks for a reasonable price. I find the current "pro" uncomfortable, a vintage "Pro" or a current "swift" are both good choices.

Good find and looking forward to seeing how you proceed with the bike. here's a pic my my Mark 1 pro, made the year before. Different bike than yours - a hoot to ride!

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It's actually a Mark III owing to the chromed rear stays.

The obvious question: what is the serial number?


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Love the bike! My Mark1 is AWESOME!
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Originally Posted by juvela View Post
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The Gran Prix stem from Tecno Tubo Torino suggests machine manufactured in 1970.

It may have been a nominal 1971 model and/or purchased new in 1971.

OTOH it does express the Brampton Victor for which the 1971 model year was the first year.


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Is this really the correct stem?

I thought they came with 3TTT stems.
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Old 07-31-19, 08:07 AM
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It's an F, and pretty high number. Still I'd say pretty murky water making the 70-71 determination. It seems like the more info you look at, the less clear it becomes!
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Old 07-31-19, 08:20 AM
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I'll probably give it a black Brooks Pro with the small rivets, some Rustine hoods (it just doesn't look right otherwise), and ride it around the n'hood! It's got a LOT of patina (you can barely see "Professional".) Not a show bike, but, no dents or rust or damage, and the campy group is really good cond. The kid who sold it said his friends dad gave it to him and he rode it around in college at U of Fla. Amazing there isn't damage on the bike considering that.
That's a beautiful Pro you have there. That's a 69? I have new and old bikes, and it's always a buzz to get on one of the old bikes and be reminded of how great they can feel to ride.
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i had one of these back in thr day
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A triple? Weirdness.
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You know, it's a double but certainly looks like a triple. You've made me think about exactly what was done to that big ring. Not only drilled out, but the inner circle has been cut away so that it appears more like later chainrings. I wondered why I couldn't find the "Campagnolo" mark on it. It's been cut off! Good eyes SurferRosa.
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Originally Posted by AngryFrankie View Post
It's an F, and pretty high number. Still I'd say pretty murky water making the 70-71 determination. It seems like the more info you look at, the less clear it becomes!
Not really. Raleighs, especially Carlton made ones, are very easy to date with the serial number.

F=1971. All Mark II and all Mark IIIs were indeed made the same year... 1971. Indeed, so were some Mark IVs (I owned one).

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