Question about Italian Steel bikes.
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Don't forget Legnano. I got this Roma Olympiade new in '64, still have it, still ride it, still love it! This one is Falck steel tubing. I raced it back in the day, commuted to college on it, ride it now and still enjoy it, been thru two Eroicas too.
And now I have two!
My '61 Gran Premio, $50 barn find, couldn't pass it up!
And now I have two!
My '61 Gran Premio, $50 barn find, couldn't pass it up!
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I didn’t see Antonio Mondonico mentioned, he has built some nice frames.
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My first real (ie Italian) bike was a SLX Pinarello Montello (that I still own - you'll find pictures on other threads here). I always wanted a Gilco tubed Colnago, which I now own in the form of a mid 90s Master light. Never having enough steel (or Pinarellos), I just added an early 80s pinarello Record (Columbus SL). They all ride slightly differently but Italian steel is in a class by itself. (probably BS, but if you haven't tried one you'll never know).
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At the moment I'm trying to find a de rosa.
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Since this is becoming a pic thread
I kinda like Italian bikes too
My Ciocc
Gone but not forgotten modernized DeRosa
Pinarello Opera with faithful guard critters protecting it
DeBernardi in a place of honor in my rec room
Vianelli project still waiting to be finished
and --- one more pic of that Super for posterity
I kinda like Italian bikes too
My Ciocc
Gone but not forgotten modernized DeRosa
Pinarello Opera with faithful guard critters protecting it
DeBernardi in a place of honor in my rec room
Vianelli project still waiting to be finished
and --- one more pic of that Super for posterity
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Much as I love Italian bikes, I really want a high-end Japanese (Tange 1 or similar) bike just to see if the whole "Italian bikes ride different" thing is true .Time to check around for Centurion Prestieges, I guess...
(there's also Jack Taylor which has a "this is the best bike I've ever ridden" cult fanbase, but I've got zero chance at finding one of those)
(there's also Jack Taylor which has a "this is the best bike I've ever ridden" cult fanbase, but I've got zero chance at finding one of those)
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I love Italian bikes in the national colors! There are some Gianni Motta bikes with green/white/red paint too. Very fun!
Have you considered wrapping the left side of the bars with red tape, so that it matches the paint on the fork? That would be cool!
Or maybe do red/green harlequin wrap? So many options (especially when it's not me doing the work. )
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Have you considered wrapping the left side of the bars with red tape, so that it matches the paint on the fork? That would be cool!
Or maybe do red/green harlequin wrap? So many options (especially when it's not me doing the work. )
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Another ‘lesser known’ Italian brand that made some great bikes is Cramerotti.
A beautiful mid-range Cramerotti
A good review, and brief history of the brand, is in the link:
https://cyclingmagazine.ca/sections/...-maverick-m-3/
A beautiful mid-range Cramerotti
A good review, and brief history of the brand, is in the link:
https://cyclingmagazine.ca/sections/...-maverick-m-3/
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I haven't ridden it yet since it doesn't have pedals. I have to get them on Friday but how would you describe the ride of the bike?
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I love Italian bikes in the national colors! There are some Gianni Motta bikes with green/white/red paint too. Very fun!
Have you considered wrapping the left side of the bars with red tape, so that it matches the paint on the fork? That would be cool!
Or maybe do red/green harlequin wrap? So many options (especially when it's not me doing the work. )
Steve in Peoria
Have you considered wrapping the left side of the bars with red tape, so that it matches the paint on the fork? That would be cool!
Or maybe do red/green harlequin wrap? So many options (especially when it's not me doing the work. )
Steve in Peoria
Actually, I considered that option, and may still do that. I also looked at the Silva red/white/ green sectioned tape, but could only find it for sale in Italy - shipping was ridiculous.
I don't look at it as work, it's just tinkering I just got this bike a few weeks ago, after a long search. Finding my size at a good price required some patience, this one is in superb condition and was well worth the wait.
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Not all carbon bikes ride alike, right?
So many variables. So much character.
So many variables. So much character.
I recently came about an eddy Merckx Professional and I love it. I dare even say it riders smoother than my Cervelo s5 team. Im thinking about buying an Italian steel bike such as a Gios Torino, colnago, Tommasini etc etc. But I notice that they have the same tube set I have. My bike has Columbus SLX tubing. So if I get a Tommasini super prestige and it also has SLX would it ride similar. Would the difference be more aesthetic than anything else? Guys Ill appreciate your opinions and look forward to reading them.
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As to how they handle...there are many variables but I have a Gios A70 which is aluminum and a Compact Pro which is steel. (I never built up the Gios-Torino). The steel frame is without a gruppo, presently. It is on my Torelli steel. They have had the same gruppo (Campagnolo C-Record), forks, saddles, stem and bars and wheels (Mavic CXP33 rims/ DT spokes). The A70 is a little stiffer and really responds to sprints or hill climb efforts. It handles great! They both have tight wheelbases. The Gios steel is more plush but is still 'precise' in its handling. There is probably more to do with geometry than material, though, but I can't quote exact figures. I'm too busy smiling and whistling while I ride these lovely things! It is still a good sprinter's frame for steel. I prefer steel for longer rides. I never did 'cotton' to carbon. Too 'buzzy' for me.
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I think it's the abundance of one color paint, typically black, and big blocky graphics...highlighted by carbon (black) components and black tires.
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A lot of them are starting to use the BMC/Specialized dropped seatstay look, but yeah, I mean traditional geometry lugged steel isn't quite the place to look for design variance, unless you ride a Hetchins or something.
Also, integrated stems on top-line bikes mean every bike of that model will look the same- threadless stems also look fairly similar, while there's a decent amount of variance in the looks of quill stems that lets you actually do some customization.
but yeah, the black carbon white decals (or that super original color scheme of red/black) is a menace. One of the few modern trends I like is that a few brands are now going super minimal with their branding- Cannondale is notably going back to their classic 90s look of having a small decal on the top tube, and a few others seem to be copying them.
Also, integrated stems on top-line bikes mean every bike of that model will look the same- threadless stems also look fairly similar, while there's a decent amount of variance in the looks of quill stems that lets you actually do some customization.
but yeah, the black carbon white decals (or that super original color scheme of red/black) is a menace. One of the few modern trends I like is that a few brands are now going super minimal with their branding- Cannondale is notably going back to their classic 90s look of having a small decal on the top tube, and a few others seem to be copying them.
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As far as the seat goes should I put a white Selle Italia Flite Seat on it? Just cause its contemporaries with it and the white would make the frame pop.