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Somewhat seldom seen Italian brand rescue- Lazzaretti

Old 09-08-19, 12:48 PM
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^ Thanks for the link to that article about tubular tires. I pumped the existing ones up and they still hold air despite being ancient and pretty corroded.
Not sure what to do with the saddle; itís a very well used and faded Cinelli Unicantor. Would leather conditioner be the right thing to use on the top side to bring back some color? It seems to be leather or something stretched over a plastic base....
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Lug Usdate

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Made further exploration and was able to determine that lug pattern is Agrati "SPORT."

"SPORT" combines the feature cut of "AM" with the nozzle cut of "ROMA."

It is stock number 000.8050/E/U.

The upper head lug is item nr. 000.8054.

The lower head lug is item nr. 000.8053.

The seat lug is item nr. 005..8059.

These stock numbers refer to the standard lugs without the cutouts present in the machine's headlugs.

The cycle's bottom bracket shell is likely Agrati as well but is not shown well enough in any of the images for an identification.

If you could make a photo from the non-drive side can likely make an ID.

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Saddle:

VeloBase.com - Component: Cinelli Unicanitor (leather covered)

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Thanks for the link to the Unicantor saddles. Iíve included a photo of the underside of mine, s well as one of the bb lug.
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Thanks to all who shared information about this bike. I appreciate it!

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^ Thanks for the link to that article about tubular tires. I pumped the existing ones up and they still hold air despite being ancient and pretty corroded.
Not sure what to do with the saddle; itís a very well used and faded Cinelli Unicantor. Would leather conditioner be the right thing to use on the top side to bring back some color? It seems to be leather or something stretched over a plastic base....
Black shoe polish one light coat at a time will work wonders. Buffing just like oldschool shoe shine will minimize transfer, you should be wearing black shorts anyway.
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Thank you for the additional imagery.

Cannot recall seeing shell previously.

Sockets for down and seat resemble those of a BOCAMA shell but sockets for chainstays very much do not.

Chainstay sockets look like they could be part of either an Agrati "ROMA" or "SPORT" ensemble.

This may be an Agrati shell have not run into afore...


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Did frame builders mix and match lugs from different makers, or did they more routinely build frames using all of a certain category/make of lug?
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Most commonly, lugs were employed in "sets."

It was quite common to combine a lug pattern from one maker with a crown from another however.


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So, given the likelihood of Columbus tubing, the described lugs, and the Campy components, where might a bike like this fall in the heirarchy of Italian builds from the 1970ís? Iím imagining that the small volume builder/shop brand might make it a somewhat less desirable bike?
Havenít had it out on the road yet (bearings still being repacked), so I canít attest to its ride characteristics. Iím probably not the most discerning guy for that task though. Most of my bikes have either 531 or Tange tubing, so Iím wondering how a Columbus framed bike might be different?

Iím awaiting new brake hoods from Italy and replacement brake shoes in the post. The existing Universal brake shoes are hard as rocks!

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Since you are going through the cycle and repacking all of its bearings you will be able to get a date confirmation from the inner faces of the axle locknuts on its hubs.

Some of the small operation, little known, Italian marques are of no great interest amongst enthusiasts while others very much so. There is no simple rule here.

Tubing: if the steerer exhibits interior rifling it is Columbus. Steerer may bear tubing marking on its outer wall.

When you have the fittings out of the bottom bracket you will be able to examine the interiors of four frame tubes at once to check for seams, if any.

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That is a wicked cool time capsule.
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Juvela- I get your point about the smaller builders and the perception of their bikes desirability. Iíve been a fan of vintage bikes since before they were vintage, and I had never heard of the Lazzaretti brand before I saw this bike in the sellers garage. I just brought it home because the Campy components were appealing. I also felt sorry for how it had been neglected, and because it looked like a fun bike to rehab.

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