Picture of Your Favorite Vintage Time Trial Bicycles and Why!
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Traditional TT coming back and where it was first popularized, in the UK. Restrictions including aero bars, etc..
Made me think of having a vintage class TT series with no restrictions, allow anything though reward with a handicap points / time, such as not using aero bars, depth of wheel rims, decade or era of bike, etc..
https://www-cyclingweekly-com.cdn.am...-trials-448766
From the above Cycling Weekly article:
The aero restrictions for entering the road bike-only time trials may differ between events, but the general rules include no aerobars, clip-on bars or aero extensions, hands must be on the handlebars at all times (no resting forearms on the bars), wheels must have 12 speaks each with a maximum rim depth of 90mm, helmets must have no visor and must not cover the rider’s ears (no TT helmets).
Made me think of having a vintage class TT series with no restrictions, allow anything though reward with a handicap points / time, such as not using aero bars, depth of wheel rims, decade or era of bike, etc..
https://www-cyclingweekly-com.cdn.am...-trials-448766
From the above Cycling Weekly article:
The aero restrictions for entering the road bike-only time trials may differ between events, but the general rules include no aerobars, clip-on bars or aero extensions, hands must be on the handlebars at all times (no resting forearms on the bars), wheels must have 12 speaks each with a maximum rim depth of 90mm, helmets must have no visor and must not cover the rider’s ears (no TT helmets).
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Thx for encouragement. Hats' off to you too, for this tread, and keeping it going. It's always good for a browse. I posted my Cavalera funny bike early in the thread. I have a couple of other "go fasts" to post as I can.
Cost is hard to quantify, but I want to answer to the best of my ability, and explain why it's tricky. Selling, if parted out, I would hope 1k, plus the cockpit.
I use $700 as a rough estimate of "cost" (including the cockpit). But, because like many BF members, I trade back and forth, swapping bits and pieces constantly, the actual $ spent on build is significantly less, or I couldn't afford to keep it, though like many BF members, factoring time at $15/hr, I shudder to think of the"economic opportunity cost". For me at least, even cash costs are hard to determine.
For example, I bought a full DA Kestrel 200Sci bike (local pickup only) in 2015, 60 mi away for $170. It came with the Litespeed Ti seatpost and Flite Ti saddle, now on the Litespeed TT bike. I sold the Kestrel's wheels for $100, pedals with toeclips for $50 or $60, and still have the Kestrel as my "rain" bike. A rare coup obviously, or I could make a living doing this, but how should I apportion the post and saddle "cost" to the Litepeed TT bike? The Blade frame was an eBay score from my LBS, again no shipping, around $230.
Sorry, if that's TMI...
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Hey its so good to have you back. I was beginning to think that our resident expert here at TT Land was kidnapped by aliens!
You will notice that I am hoping also for some pictures of steel pista i.e. track bikes that are not lo pros to add to this thread. Of course, the focus will remain mostly on lo pros but I have wanted to diversify. After all my original charter said velodrome bikes too. So if you own any or know of pictures of any special ones you admire please post em. We are coming up on 50,000 views soon which I consider with a little pride since this thread started less than a year ago. So there is a large audience for the things of quality posted here.
I have been wanting to post this picture of this super ultra rare and cool Peugeot time trial bike for yah for awhile since you are the one that unearthed a record of so many of them. I would probably kill to have this bike:
If anyone can find out more about this particular bike it would be incredibly appreciated. I want to buy it some day. Even the picture is rare.
You will notice that I am hoping also for some pictures of steel pista i.e. track bikes that are not lo pros to add to this thread. Of course, the focus will remain mostly on lo pros but I have wanted to diversify. After all my original charter said velodrome bikes too. So if you own any or know of pictures of any special ones you admire please post em. We are coming up on 50,000 views soon which I consider with a little pride since this thread started less than a year ago. So there is a large audience for the things of quality posted here.
I have been wanting to post this picture of this super ultra rare and cool Peugeot time trial bike for yah for awhile since you are the one that unearthed a record of so many of them. I would probably kill to have this bike:
If anyone can find out more about this particular bike it would be incredibly appreciated. I want to buy it some day. Even the picture is rare.
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Thanks T-Mar for taking the time to provide this most excellent and detailed information on this bicycle. It helps because I am trying to piece together the clues. I will be posting some more on it that I have figured out when I get the time. I would love to own this bike. Your vast knowledge of bicycles is always appreciated here. All Best.
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Mariposa TT
Not so much a picture of my favorite TT bike as it's my favorite picture of a TT bike.
Greg Curnoe was a Canadian artist, musician, and cyclist who made paintings of several of his bikes. This Mariposa was made at Bicycle Sport in Toronto. Owned by "Mike and Mike" (Barry and Brown). The two Englishmen built custom frames (Randounerus being their special expertise) and sold an eclectic selection of higher end British bikes.
As to this particular bike, those were pretty straight fork blades for a road bike of the 70's. Radial spokes on the Front for better aero - same rationalization for the "Fastback" seat-stay treatment. No front shifter braze-on (won't be needing it), no tape on the tops of the bars (ditto), corn-cob freewheel and T.A. cranks because they're lighter than Campag.. Track pedals because they're lighter than road. While the colours are rather fanciful (each spoke is a different one for instance) I seem to remember that the orange tubs were a real thing in the 70's. Silk cased, weighing next to nothing, and more expensive than most anyone else's whole bike. I'd lay odds on the Rim's being Fiamme Ergal's - same price to weight ratio as the tires, why not?
The bike was painted life-sized on a transparent plexiglass sheet.
Greg Curnoe was a Canadian artist, musician, and cyclist who made paintings of several of his bikes. This Mariposa was made at Bicycle Sport in Toronto. Owned by "Mike and Mike" (Barry and Brown). The two Englishmen built custom frames (Randounerus being their special expertise) and sold an eclectic selection of higher end British bikes.
As to this particular bike, those were pretty straight fork blades for a road bike of the 70's. Radial spokes on the Front for better aero - same rationalization for the "Fastback" seat-stay treatment. No front shifter braze-on (won't be needing it), no tape on the tops of the bars (ditto), corn-cob freewheel and T.A. cranks because they're lighter than Campag.. Track pedals because they're lighter than road. While the colours are rather fanciful (each spoke is a different one for instance) I seem to remember that the orange tubs were a real thing in the 70's. Silk cased, weighing next to nothing, and more expensive than most anyone else's whole bike. I'd lay odds on the Rim's being Fiamme Ergal's - same price to weight ratio as the tires, why not?
The bike was painted life-sized on a transparent plexiglass sheet.
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Thanks for sharing this very unique item. This is one of those very unique one of a kind bicycles where there was a tremendous amount of care and quality put in. I like the green paint with the red handlebar tape and the story behind the ultra high quality silk cased tires in interesting. If you can find out more about those tires please let me know and post it here. Were the spokes really colored like that? The rainbow seat is a bit much for me...just my taste. If I owned it I would go with a white leather saddle and bladed spokes. It is also interesting that the Canadian artist did painting of bikes full size on plexiglass....it makes for a unique piece of art. I hope to see more cool posts from you in the future.
Greg was an Artist first, so the colours are often purely imaginary (every spoke nipple and every chain link is also a unique colour). In another painting the freewheel is bright green, in another the background colour changes between groups of spokes. Reflected highlights are also often different colours on different parts of the bike - yet the technical drawing is perfect. In reality I suspect the spokes were silver, and the saddle plain black.
Pop Art in the 60's and 70's was super bold (and fun) and plastics were a popular material. A life-sized Plexiglass semi-psychedelic panel would have fit right in with the times - I remember seeing the original painting in the Isaacs Gallery in Toronto when I was a kid
As to the tires, bright orange ones stand out, and I vaguely remember seeing them on a another customers bike in a shop when I was a kid. I remember bring told they were silk cased, for track, and very expensive - I'm guessing Clement because silks were what they did, and the Seta's were out of this world expensive. From Velobase, two candidates stand out: the Clement Seta Extra weighing in at 125 grams. (125!), or if that's too heavy, the Clement Record Seta Extra at 105 grams.
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Still in early stages of the build but heres my 88 Krono
Bonus image 88 Krono with 88 Giro
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VintageTTfan. The Bianchi stand is available for purchase on the site. ($55) I was fortunate to get this one from the Bicycle Stand in Long Beach a few months back for $40.
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Yes, artistic license, the only justifiable rationale for a non-drive side depiction. His first bicycle work showed the drive side and this was his second. He did seem to continue to alternate on his subsequent works, so it's appears to have been intentional.
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Just too much time on my hands.
Here’s a good article about getting the ‘correct’ celeste which has always been a moving target: https://veloaficionado.com/blog/when...old-dog-part-4
Here’s a good article about getting the ‘correct’ celeste which has always been a moving target: https://veloaficionado.com/blog/when...old-dog-part-4
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I love Bianchi's from this era. The integral head set, skip-tooth chain ring, and those blue-filled indents in the frame all add up to make this bike stand out
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These were popular in the early 1990s. Soon after the aero bars came out, triathletes discovered that by moving the saddle as far forward as possible, you could maintain the angle between the torso and thigh, while lowering the torso for a more aerodynamic position. This led to a plethora of dedicated triathlon bicycles with ultra-steep seat angles, to allow the saddle to be moved even farther forward. Of course, not everyone could afford a state-of-the -art triathlon frame, so component manufacturers started offering seat posts with a forward curve and/or a saddle cradle positioned in front of the post. This allowed a typical road bicycle to achieve an extra steep effective seat angle for the cost of a new seat post. There were several on the market but the most popular was probably the Profile Aero SP.
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Im pretty this is the instagram of The Bicycle Stand owner
https://www.instagram.com/vintage.space/?hl=en
https://www.instagram.com/vintage.space/?hl=en
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Of all of the time trial bikes I've ever seen, this is the one I wish I had... An early 1950s Claud Butler Olympic Sprint, from a time and place when many time trialists had to ride their bikes back home after the events. I saw it sell twice on Ebay UK a couple of years ago when I could not afford it... Alas!
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There is that saddle again, someone with good eyes and imagination read the name, please?
And a few special frames form a shop I was unaware of until recently.
And a few special frames form a shop I was unaware of until recently.
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I read somewhere the back part was for more tooshie support when climbing in the saddle
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