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Picture of Your Favorite Vintage Time Trial Bicycles and Why!

Old 02-12-20, 12:03 PM
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FWIW, the graphics are 1984-1986 but the picture was taken later. It's hard to make a positive identification on the pedals but they are not the first generation Look PP65 that came out in 1984. They don't even appear to be the 2nd generation PP75 that came out in 1987. They look more like the 1988 Look PP76 Carbon pedals. The shoes are Look L'Image which became available in 1987. Seems strange to have DiAa-Compe Aero Gran Compe brakeset on a mid-1980s Peugeot.
Thanks T-Mar for taking the time to provide this most excellent and detailed information on this bicycle. It helps because I am trying to piece together the clues. I will be posting some more on it that I have figured out when I get the time. I would love to own this bike. Your vast knowledge of bicycles is always appreciated here. All Best.
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Thanks T-Mar for taking the time to provide this most excellent and detailed information on this bicycle. It helps because I am trying to piece together the clues. I will be posting some more on it that I have figured out when I get the time. I would love to own this bike. Your vast knowledge of bicycles is always appreciated here. All Best.
I just noticed a couple of other things, The cranksaet appears to be Campagnolo C-Record. The BB shell appears to be noticeably offset with more protrusion on the drive side. I've seen this done on custom TT frames to optimize the chain angle of a single large chainring with the more frequently used small cogs.
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Originally Posted by T-Mar View Post
I just noticed a couple of other things, The cranksaet appears to be Campagnolo C-Record. The BB shell appears to be noticeably offset with more protrusion on the drive side. I've seen this done on custom TT frames to optimize the chain angle of a single large chainring with the more frequently used small cogs.

Thanks....and the racer on top of it is a very famous and respected time trialist.
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This Dosi bicycle in front is killer. The frame is sophisticated and cool. The paint job is intricate and of the highest quality and is quite simply amazing. The handlebars (I have seen nicer bullhorns and tape) and saddle (kinda plain) could be better but with something this good you will not find me complaining too loudly. Love the grey FIR disc wheels which match the paint. The Bianchi behind it is not bad either. Good stuff.

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Mariposa TT

Not so much a picture of my favorite TT bike as it's my favorite picture of a TT bike.

Greg Curnoe was a Canadian artist, musician, and cyclist who made paintings of several of his bikes. This Mariposa was made at Bicycle Sport in Toronto. Owned by "Mike and Mike" (Barry and Brown). The two Englishmen built custom frames (Randounerus being their special expertise) and sold an eclectic selection of higher end British bikes.

As to this particular bike, those were pretty straight fork blades for a road bike of the 70's. Radial spokes on the Front for better aero - same rationalization for the "Fastback" seat-stay treatment. No front shifter braze-on (won't be needing it), no tape on the tops of the bars (ditto), corn-cob freewheel and T.A. cranks because they're lighter than Campag.. Track pedals because they're lighter than road. While the colours are rather fanciful (each spoke is a different one for instance) I seem to remember that the orange tubs were a real thing in the 70's. Silk cased, weighing next to nothing, and more expensive than most anyone else's whole bike. I'd lay odds on the Rim's being Fiamme Ergal's - same price to weight ratio as the tires, why not?

The bike was painted life-sized on a transparent plexiglass sheet.


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Originally Posted by d_dutchison View Post
Not so much a picture of my favorite TT bike as it's my favorite picture of a TT bike. Greg Curnoe was a Canadian artist, musician, and cyclist who made paintings of several of his bikes. This Mariposa was made at Bicycle Sport in Toronto. Owned by "Mike and Mike" (Barry and Brown). The two Englishmen built custom frames (Randounerus being their special expertise) and sold an eclectic selection of higher end British bikes. As to this particular bike, those were pretty straight fork blades for a road bike of the 70's. Radial spokes on the Front for better aero - same rationalization for the "Fastback" seat-stay treatment. No front shifter braze-on (won't be needing it), no tape on the tops of the bars (ditto), corn-cob freewheel and T.A. cranks because they're lighter than Campag.. Track pedals because they're lighter than road. While the colours are rather fanciful (each spoke is a different one for instance) I seem to remember that the orange tubs were a real thing in the 70's. Silk cased, weighing next to nothing, and more expensive than most anyone else's whole bike. I'd lay odds on the Rim's being Fiamme Ergal's - same price to weight ratio as the tires, why not? The bike was painted life-sized on a transparent plexiglass sheet.
Thanks for sharing this very unique item. This is one of those very unique one of a kind bicycles where there was a tremendous amount of care and quality put in. I like the green paint with the red handlebar tape and the story behind the ultra high quality silk cased tires in interesting. If you can find out more about those tires please let me know and post it here. Were the spokes really colored like that? The rainbow seat is a bit much for me...just my taste. If I owned it I would go with a white leather saddle and bladed spokes. It is also interesting that the Canadian artist did painting of bikes full size on plexiglass....it makes for a unique piece of art. I hope to see more cool posts from you in the future.
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Steibel does some pretty nice TT bikes and this is my fav from them. The saddle is tied for all time favorite status. Rare as hell and one day I have to get one. It is oh so cool......Op Art. Beautiful bullhorns with oh so right matching bar tape. Frame paint matches. And for the piece de resistance the disc wheels blow me out of the water with their geometric design that is so unique and perfect for the whole ensemble. You can build a whole bike around the coolness of the saddle and the disc wheels here....they are that good.
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Thanks for sharing this very unique item. This is one of those very unique one of a kind bicycles where there was a tremendous amount of care and quality put in. I like the green paint with the red handlebar tape and the story behind the ultra high quality silk cased tires in interesting. If you can find out more about those tires please let me know and post it here. Were the spokes really colored like that? The rainbow seat is a bit much for me...just my taste. If I owned it I would go with a white leather saddle and bladed spokes. It is also interesting that the Canadian artist did painting of bikes full size on plexiglass....it makes for a unique piece of art. I hope to see more cool posts from you in the future.
Thanks VintageTTfan, and I just want to say to say that this has been one of the most enjoyable threads to read through.

Greg was an Artist first, so the colours are often purely imaginary (every spoke nipple and every chain link is also a unique colour). In another painting the freewheel is bright green, in another the background colour changes between groups of spokes. Reflected highlights are also often different colours on different parts of the bike - yet the technical drawing is perfect. In reality I suspect the spokes were silver, and the saddle plain black.

Pop Art in the 60's and 70's was super bold (and fun) and plastics were a popular material. A life-sized Plexiglass semi-psychedelic panel would have fit right in with the times - I remember seeing the original painting in the Isaacs Gallery in Toronto when I was a kid

As to the tires, bright orange ones stand out, and I vaguely remember seeing them on a another customers bike in a shop when I was a kid. I remember bring told they were silk cased, for track, and very expensive - I'm guessing Clement because silks were what they did, and the Seta's were out of this world expensive. From Velobase, two candidates stand out: the Clement Seta Extra weighing in at 125 grams. (125!), or if that's too heavy, the Clement Record Seta Extra at 105 grams.
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Originally Posted by d_dutchison View Post
Thanks VintageTTfan, and I just want to say to say that this has been one of the most enjoyable threads to read through. Greg was an Artist first, so the colours are often purely imaginary (every spoke nipple and every chain link is also a unique colour). In another painting the freewheel is bright green, in another the background colour changes between groups of spokes. Reflected highlights are also often different colours on different parts of the bike - yet the technical drawing is perfect. In reality I suspect the spokes were silver, and the saddle plain black. Pop Art in the 60's and 70's was super bold (and fun) and plastics were a popular material. A life-sized Plexiglass semi-psychedelic panel would have fit right in with the times - I remember seeing the original painting in the Isaacs Gallery in Toronto when I was a kid As to the tires, bright orange ones stand out, and I vaguely remember seeing them on a another customers bike in a shop when I was a kid. I remember bring told they were silk cased, for track, and very expensive - I'm guessing Clement because silks were what they did, and the Seta's were out of this world expensive. From Velobase, two candidates stand out: the Clement Seta Extra weighing in at 125 grams. (125!), or if that's too heavy, the Clement Record Seta Extra at 105 grams.
Thanks for your kind words on this thread which is really great to hear and encouraging. I put a lot of work into it but it is a labor of love. Also every single person who posts here is a huge part of making it successful and what it is so thanks to everyone who has posted and continues to do so.

Greg was a creative and imaginative artist obviously. I like a lot of the Pop Art of the 60's and onward and I agree that it was bold and exciting. Op Art was also cool. I feel like the eighties were a time in which Time Trial bicycles continued on with these artistic trends. Look at the bicycle I posted above .....the Steibel....as a perfect example. The disc wheels and saddle exhibit this tendency and the Japanese time trial bikes and especially their bike shows and catalogs exhibit this sensibility. The same is true of the actual Italian bikes. That is one reason I love the vintage time trial world of the eighties is because it is a vibrant colorful exciting world.

Thanks for all the detailed research on the tires. They look very cool and sound like they were amazing quality. I look forward to more posts from you of any vintage time trials or track bikes you happen to love. All Best.

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The bike looks like it is moving in the shot even as it stands still.
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The bike looks like it is moving in the shot even as it stands still.
And if you put a pinch of nutmeg on your ice cream it looks like it is moving even more........
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Still in early stages of the build but heres my 88 Krono



Bonus image 88 Krono with 88 Giro

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Still in early stages of the build but heres my 88 Krono



Bonus image 88 Krono with 88 Giro

That is going to be a sweet combo! Both saddles are very nice. The Giro is in such nice shape. And kudos on the original Bianchi stand....how much did that set you back? Bet those are hard to find. And the water bottle is a nice touch. The Krono frame is in nice shape too. When all this is finished post it here. Thanks for the cool post.
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VintageTTfan. The Bianchi stand is available for purchase on the site. ($55) I was fortunate to get this one from the Bicycle Stand in Long Beach a few months back for $40.
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VintageTTfan. The Bianchi stand is available for purchase on the site. ($55) I was fortunate to get this one from the Bicycle Stand in Long Beach a few months back for $40.
Wow! Pretty surprised that is available........it is super nice....and that is a great price..sure the tip is appreciated by everyone. Everybody already knows it, but Bianchi sure picked a wonderful color to make their trademark.......if anyone happens to know the story behind the picking of that color and how they stuck with it....please post it here because it would be very interesting to know.
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if anyone happens to know the story behind the picking of that color and how they stuck with it....please post it here because it would be very interesting to know.
https://www.bicycling.com/news/a2001...anchi-celeste/
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Figures that our resident expert would strike again! Thanks........




Bianchi team pro track bike belonging to racer Fabrizio Guidi.

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Thanks VintageTTfan, and I just want to say to say that this has been one of the most enjoyable threads to read through.

Greg was an Artist first...
Yes, artistic license, the only justifiable rationale for a non-drive side depiction. His first bicycle work showed the drive side and this was his second. He did seem to continue to alternate on his subsequent works, so it's appears to have been intentional.
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Figures that our resident expert would strike again!
Just too much time on my hands.

Here’s a good article about getting the ‘correct’ celeste which has always been a moving target: https://veloaficionado.com/blog/when...old-dog-part-4
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Just too much time on my hands.

Here’s a good article about getting the ‘correct’ celeste which has always been a moving target: https://veloaficionado.com/blog/when...old-dog-part-4
Thanks for the article....I will read it over tonight carefully when I have time. Articles are always great as they inform us all so glad you have too much time on you hands...ha ha. All Best......



Look at those lugs! The Bianchi written in red....coolness......the handlebars.......the color.....all so nice!

Here is some tentative info on this rare bicycle:

"A very rare late(?) 1950s Bianchi Team Campione del Mondo pista/track bicycle. It is a true team bicycle as noted by the frame’s serial number 999111. You may know that old Bianchi bikes with serial numbers beginning with 999 were made for the team. The chrome on the head lugs is original and in very good condition."....this was according to the Ebay auction (qualifier).
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...Look at those lugs! The Bianchi written in red....coolness......the handlebars.......the color.....all so nice!...
I love Bianchi's from this era. The integral head set, skip-tooth chain ring, and those blue-filled indents in the frame all add up to make this bike stand out
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I love Bianchi's from this era. The integral head set, skip-tooth chain ring, and those blue-filled indents in the frame all add up to make this bike stand out
Pretty cool stuff and rare I would imagine.
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It has been a bit of a Bianchi festival around here in TT Land for the past couple of days. I figured as the grande finale it would be fun to post some of their vintage time trial bicycles and different builds all in a row for comparison so here yah go:























They do kinda DAZZLE!

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...while on my way to winning the Christmas Day 25-mile massed start time trial on Diego Garcia in December of 2000
"Massed start time trial' - cycling's oxymoron.
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