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Old 05-23-20, 08:54 AM
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the Antonov story take 2 (I realized, I still have way too much pics about these, although I only learned about their existence in Apr, so I keep it short)

found some info since the latest post, that actually the Ukranian Team could have used the original Enei/Eney/Aeneas already on the '96 olympics, as it was supplied to many sport schools in the country, but somehow there was no interest toward them, they were ignored. The team used italian bikes and finished 7th. And in '97 on the World champ they used them, they were fastest, but fell, still got silver (for first time in Ukrainian cycling history). Then they went on using them and won various championships and prizes at almost every prestigious competition.

Then came the 2004 olympics when the team used Elin painted in Colnago livery.... back then when VintageTTfan posted one, I believed its a Colnago, although somehow the bump didn't feel right - I just learned 3 days later that its an Antonov and started to think, that some lucky or rich guy doesn't feel it posh enough to have a rare Antonov, it should rather be a No-Nago because that amazes the masses! Well I was wrong.

Here's the one in question:


and in action:


This triggered a lawsuit as Antonov had an agreement ruling out name of sponsors (I guess in this case Colnago must have sponsored the team to get to this) replacing Antonov on the frame, ultimately the teams started to use other bikes.







They say (in 2006) the Elin is still a popular bike in the national champs, which is interesting, as it is considered a rather rare, old, heavy and really expensive piece of equipment compared to mass produced competition back then.

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Old 05-23-20, 09:18 AM
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Antonov - part3

to answer the question, if they are for sale besides the black Elin, yes, every now an then one pops up, rater Elin than Eney (which is odd, as I've found more Eneys for sale in the past ~4-5 years, but articles always say, thats a historical masterpiece, and almost never shows up for sale, or when yes, then its several thousands of dollars).

I start with the one which gave me the plague. I wanted to see, how much a Takhion costs in Ukraine/Russia, as thought it has to be way cheaper, than what the Japanese/Thai/Singaporean eBay hyenas are asking (and I was right) so I found this in Moscow for EUR280 (USD305)... needless to say, I badly wanted it, my style (beaten up, but cheap) and it can have brakes.....it has the original and unique seatpost (back then I didn't even pay attention on that until I saw a replica post for sale for like USD200 and learned these have dedicated posts, clamps), what else do I need? But stuggling over shipping anything from Russia??? Outside EU? In the middle of Corona crisis?? And add on top customs duties and divorce lawyer, the frame is not that cheap in an instant. But kept watching and dreaming about it until it disappeared.







so..
this was on ebay in 2016 for USD4750, relisted several times until it disappeared unsold by then price dropped to 3950.



also eBay, also 2016, Elin Track for USD 890 without fork - unsold.....


the previously shown No-Nago Antonov on LFGSS was for sale last January, for EUR650, price dropped to 550 without answer. This January he got questions if still available.

LFGSS - Eney in 2015, asking price was USD1500 but free shipping.


And these bad boys are actually for sale USD 1900 asking price. Interesting that these look brand new Elin frames, a bit more modern looking, and seems like Antonov renamed them back to Eney (but dropped the Greek charset).



And a random pic dont remember if was for sale but I like the non-orig paint (I need that on my Rossin):



Guess it's enough Antonov for a while....

EDIT: forgot the bonus content on a forum where the various Ukrainian ideas clashed about the Antonov frames (best because ours / overpriced / overweight / good but old etc...) on guy sent this just to represent his opinion hot good, light and innovative Eney was in the 80s

USA 1930s
was laughing like a madman for minutes

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Originally Posted by Lattz View Post
Antonov - part3 to answer the question, if they are for sale besides the black Elin, yes, every now an then one pops up, rater Elin than Eney (which is odd, as I've found more Eneys for sale in the past ~4-5 years, but articles always say, thats a historical masterpiece, and almost never shows up for sale, or when yes, then its several thousands of dollars). I start with the one which gave me the plague. I wanted to see, how much a Takhion costs in Ukraine/Russia, as thought it has to be way cheaper, than what the Japanese/Thai/Singaporean eBay hyenas are asking (and I was right) so I found this in Moscow for EUR280 (USD305)... needless to say, I badly wanted it, my style (beaten up, but cheap) and it can have brakes.....it has the original and unique seatpost (back then I didn't even pay attention on that until I saw a replica post for sale for like USD200 and learned these have dedicated posts, clamps), what else do I need? But stuggling over shipping anything from Russia??? Outside EU? In the middle of Corona crisis?? And add on top customs duties and divorce lawyer, the frame is not that cheap in an instant. But kept watching and dreaming about it until it disappeared. so..this was on ebay in 2016 for USD4750, relisted several times until it disappeared unsold by then price dropped to 3950.also eBay, also 2016, Elin Track for USD 890 without fork - unsold.....the previously shown No-Nago Antonov on LFGSS was for sale last January, for EUR650, price dropped to 550 without answer. This January he got questions if still available. LFGSS - Eney in 2015, asking price was USD1500 but free shipping. And these bad boys are actually for sale USD 1900 asking price. Interesting that these look brand new Elin frames, a bit more modern looking, and seems like Antonov renamed them back to Eney (but dropped the Greek charset). And a random pic dont remember if was for sale but I like the non-orig paint (I need that on my Rossin): Guess it's enough Antonov for a while....EDIT: forgot the bonus content on a forum where the various Ukrainian ideas clashed about the Antonov frames (best because ours / overpriced / overweight / good but old etc...) on guy sent this just to represent his opinion hot good, light and innovative Eney was in the 80s was laughing like a madman for minutes
Sorry just commenting on this last series of posts so late....every once in a while I need a couple days break. This is an excellent comprehensive coverage of this make, however. The pictures are excellent. Thanks for that. This is a part of the value of the TT Land blog, is that it is informative. It seems this bike preformed well in world class competition. It is interesting to see the price variation across the board on these. Your hunch turned out to be right Lattz that you could get these cheaper in the right place. I have a far fetched fantasy that I could find beautiful vintage Italian time trial bikes for a lot less somewhere in Italy.....ha ha ha.

Here is a non-related picture to keep the troops entertained:


I need to find more lo pros from this make.Nice bullhorns and I like the red wire casing.

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Old 05-24-20, 08:39 AM
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Here are some better pictures folks:


I love catalog pictures when I can find them. It really shows how a bike was conceived by the maker (well usually). I wish I had Paletti catalogs from the late eighties.


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And let me lay this little bomb on you:



This is a WOW bike. What I am blown away by though is the rear disc wheel. The optical effects on this are AMAZING. Talk about a rare disc! I have never seen one of these with these graphics. Super cool and it works with this bike. I love finding pictures like this.
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Originally Posted by VintageTTfan View Post
And let me lay this little bomb on you:



This is a WOW bike. What I am blown away by though is the rear disc wheel. The optical effects on this are AMAZING. Talk about a rare disc! I have never seen one of these with these graphics. Super cool and it works with this bike. I love finding pictures like this.
this is super random.... Ive seen today this bike for the first time as my desire to uncover the mystery of my Rossin(?) returned so spent my free time checking throughhundreds of bike pics.
And its here agan... would i have a bit more dough I would take it as a heavenly warning to get one
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Pinarello hanging in the window of Cambridge Bicycles,Cambridge MA -a GREAT shop!!
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Thanks for the cool post Rocket-Sauce. Don't take it as a slight but I thought I would repost it rotated to horizontal.....that way we do not have a bunch of folks walking around TT Land with crimped necks.



This is a beautiful bike indeed. The frame shape is quite refined and elegant. The curved seatstay is especially cool. The bullhorns are really nice too. Pinarello made a lot of lo pros that were of the finest caliber as many of you already know. I wonder what size this bike is. The bike shop must be pretty cool. The picture is kind of artistic too with the reflection of the trees.
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I think I have everything with the exception of the wheels...I like BG's but the disc's may be out of the question so laced wheels are what I am after.
Matchy-matchy is not as important to me I will match the paint and do a partial respray along with repacing the decals....but who knows, we've all gone down the wormhole before.
What do you think about Velocity Deep V's any good?
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Got nothing against Velocity, I own a couple sets of AeroHeads because they were light in their time however Deep Vs were close to the bottom of the barrel, heavy, unbalanced, poor aero. About the only thing they had going for them is they were cheep, deep and durable, that's why hipsters/fixies loved them. I would consider looking else where unless you are on an extremely tight budget. Oh, and they were available coloured.

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Here is a snack to keep the troops fed:


Nice little Japanese bike with cool disc wheels. Don't see too many of this make.
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Some pros:









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Fantastic picture!
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Another great one with a similar architectural theme. This bike is fantastic on many levels....the frame, the scintillating red!, the fantastic front disc wheel, the curvy bullhorns, the wonderful Turbo Bio saddle, In this picture it is almost as elegant as a cherry blossom in front of an Ancient castle.
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Wanted to include a smaller version:



And this to include something new:


Lush.
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Road or track? You decide: https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/palm...cle/1248892333
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For me once you see there are no gears it is disqualified from the road. The fixie nuts will ride it on the road anyway of course. It is not put together correctly for the track though.....those hubs too are wrong right? What say you?
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What say you?
Track ends with a derailleur hanger, front and rear brake holes, top tube internal cable routing...
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Track ends with a derailleur hanger, front and rear brake holes, top tube internal cable routing...
So I would say no way road as I said....but I see your point. That hub looks weird too...what do you think of that? Or am I imagining it?
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For me once you see there are no gears it is disqualified from the road. The fixie nuts will ride it on the road anyway of course. It is not put together correctly for the track though.....those hubs too are wrong right? What say you?
And not put together right for the track as I said but I have seen stuff like this before....hybrid.....the Centurion Turbo Time Trial I have has fender eyelets for some bizarre reason....why would you have that on a TT?!? Not analogous I know but strange nonetheless.

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That hub looks weird too...what do you think of that? Or am I imagining it?
Spoke heads should be facing out.
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I actually like this. I admit it.
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Fantastic picture!
Fantastic bike as well... these wheels are especially cool. Here are some of its direct and distant relatives:











Such a band of EGOists....
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I actually like this. I admit it.
Well, it is difficult not to like it. While I assume, doctors would find interesting things in Konno-san's head, as one half of him is absolutely out of this world, I also believe, that one has to be a bit crazy to be able to create such things.
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