Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Classic & Vintage
Reload this Page >

How would you gear a C&V 5 speedster??

Search
Notices
Classic & Vintage This forum is to discuss the many aspects of classic and vintage bicycles, including musclebikes, lightweights, middleweights, hi-wheelers, bone-shakers, safety bikes and much more.

How would you gear a C&V 5 speedster??

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-13-19, 09:44 PM
  #1  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: south kansas america
Posts: 1,910

Bikes: too many

Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 411 Post(s)
Liked 234 Times in 140 Posts
How would you gear a C&V 5 speedster??

So, I'm debating a "path racer" build, using a classic-to-some/vintage drop bar steel framed bicycle set up as a 5 speed. It would be mostly fast commuting miles and mostly flat areas (like 100 meters of elevation in the 8-10 mile leg). It's a cheapo build, so I'm pretty set on using a bargain basement priced newish 14-28 freewheel. I think the gearing on the freewheel is 14/16/19/23/28... but I'm not certain. I have a 44 tooth single crankset currently at my disposal, but, there's the chance that a 46 tooth and a 48 tooth could be at my disposal. Have in insights on the crank selection (i.e. the bestest tooth count for comfortable goldilocks spinning (not too hard, not too spinny, but just right)? Thanks for the responses in advance...
uncle uncle is offline  
Old 09-13-19, 10:04 PM
  #2  
Senior Member
 
due ruote's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 7,454
Mentioned: 30 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 904 Post(s)
Liked 527 Times in 320 Posts
Sounds like you will probably be in one or two gears the majority of the time. I would play with a gear calculator and figure out what chainring you need to have your best gears in the center of the fw so your chainline is good.
I once set up my Gran Sport with a 42 ring and a 13-18 corncob and it was great for the flatlands where I live.
due ruote is offline  
Likes For due ruote:
Old 09-13-19, 10:34 PM
  #3  
Me duelen las nalgas
 
canklecat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Texas
Posts: 13,513

Bikes: Centurion Ironman, Trek 5900, Univega Via Carisma, Globe Carmel

Mentioned: 199 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4559 Post(s)
Liked 2,802 Times in 1,800 Posts
The 44T chainring is probably good enough. Ditto, the 14-28 freewheel. Other than that the tricky bit is finding gear steps that suit you. I'm really picky about gear steps and swap around chainrings and freewheels or cassettes often to find combinations that suit me. I go by feel. The gear calculators online don't really help. I just have to ride and try.

My Univega has upright albatross swept bars (I tried flipped, path racer style, but it was hard on my still-unhealed shoulder and neck injuries last year). I wanted to try a faux-path racer setup, including cushier tires. So far, so good.

It has a 30/40/50 triple but I'm in the 40 ring most of the time. I rarely use the 50, unless I remember to try it occasionally to even out overall wear on all the rings. I use the 30 when I'm hauling groceries or pet supplies on the rear rack and panniers -- there's a half-mile 5% climb from the nearest grocery store back home, so granny gears help with the bike is heavily loaded. Otherwise, the 40 ring gets 75% of the use.

I used to have a 7-speed 13-28 cassette, but swapped wheels and now have an 11-32. I'm still using mostly the middle three cogs except on some climbs and a few fast downhills.
canklecat is offline  
Likes For canklecat:
Old 09-13-19, 10:40 PM
  #4  
Senior Member
 
deux jambes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Eugene, OR
Posts: 1,326
Mentioned: 64 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 535 Post(s)
Liked 346 Times in 196 Posts
Recently set up a 3x6

48/38/28 chainring
14/16/18/21/25/30 freewheel

I’m surprised how much time I’m comfortably spending on the big ring while using the smaller half of the rear cog
for in city riding. Not lightning fast, but definitely no slow poke either.
deux jambes is offline  
Likes For deux jambes:
Old 09-14-19, 12:07 AM
  #5  
working on my sandal tan
 
ThermionicScott's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: CID
Posts: 22,627

Bikes: 1991 Bianchi Eros, 1964 Armstrong, 1988 Diamondback Ascent, 1988 Bianchi Premio, 1987 Bianchi Sport SX, 1980s Raleigh mixte (hers), All-City Space Horse (hers)

Mentioned: 98 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3870 Post(s)
Liked 2,563 Times in 1,577 Posts
My wife's stock Schwinn Suburban is set up with a 46T chainring and 14-17-21-26-32 freewheel, giving a 39"-89" range. With my current thinking, I could drop that to a 42T or 44T ring and ride a lot of happy miles with that arrangement.
__________________
Originally Posted by chandltp
There's no such thing as too far.. just lack of time
Originally Posted by noglider
People in this forum are not typical.
RUSA #7498
ThermionicScott is offline  
Likes For ThermionicScott:
Old 09-14-19, 04:45 AM
  #6  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 512

Bikes: 1970s Coppi/Fiorelli beater, 1973 Raleigh Competition, 1972 Bob Jackson, 1970 Cilo Sprint-X, 1985 Fuji Touring Series IV, 1969 Legnano Roma

Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 217 Post(s)
Liked 198 Times in 129 Posts
for bombing around the streets of a relatively flat town (on 27/700s, assumed) I reckon 44/16 is a great all-purpose ratio and low enough for climbs over bridges etc. My $0.02 would be to go with that 44, giving you a longer 5th (44/14) when wanted and then the lowest 3 for heavier climbs or loads.
niliraga is offline  
Likes For niliraga:
Old 09-14-19, 06:37 AM
  #7  
feros ferio
 
John E's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: www.ci.encinitas.ca.us
Posts: 21,793

Bikes: 1959 Capo Modell Campagnolo; 1960 Capo Sieger (2); 1962 Carlton Franco Suisse; 1970 Peugeot UO-8; 1982 Bianchi Campione d'Italia; 1988 Schwinn Project KOM-10;

Mentioned: 44 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1390 Post(s)
Liked 1,322 Times in 835 Posts
14-17-20-24-28 is by far the most common 14-28 freewheel out there, so I am guessing that is what you have. This is a nice, even progression, with manageable gaps, but the challenge will be finding a small enough chainring to handle any hills you might encounter versus a large enough ring for higher-speed riding, particularly on mild descents. I would err on the side of too small, on the theory you can always coast downhill. This is why I find I need at least a 2x6 setup to give me both a tight progression and decent range, but you may be happy with only 5 gears. In your situation, I would be tempted to look for an ultra-spaced 6-speed freewheel with a 13T high and a 30 or 32T low, with a 46T ring up front. This would give you a very decent 96 gear-inch high and a good low in the lower 40s.
__________________
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
John E is offline  
Likes For John E:
Old 09-14-19, 09:53 AM
  #8  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: south kansas america
Posts: 1,910

Bikes: too many

Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 411 Post(s)
Liked 234 Times in 140 Posts
So, I found out a bit more about the bike I will be refurbishing... the freewheel is actually 6 speeds (14-28 again). The person isn't a speed racer (aka, not someone who tops out their speed much, but usually goes at a "leisurely +" pace). The bike will be for campus runs, and general fitness. So..... I don't know if that changes anyone's input, but I do appreciate the insights so far. Keep them coming....
uncle uncle is offline  
Old 09-14-19, 05:02 PM
  #9  
52psi
 
Fahrenheit531's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 4,014

Bikes: Schwinn Volare ('78); Raleigh Competition GS ('79)

Mentioned: 29 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 790 Post(s)
Liked 801 Times in 390 Posts
Originally Posted by due ruote
Sounds like you will probably be in one or two gears the majority of the time. I would play with a gear calculator and figure out what chainring you need to have your best gears in the center of the fw so your chainline is good.
I once set up my Gran Sport with a 42 ring and a 13-18 corncob and it was great for the flatlands where I live.
This. When my Raleigh was set up 1x5 I went 13-15-16-17-19 on a 42 ring and it treated me well for relatively fast urban riding.
__________________
A race bike in any era is a highly personal choice that at its "best" balances the requirements of fit, weight, handling, durability and cost tempered by the willingness to toss it and oneself down the pavement at considerable speed. ~Bandera
Fahrenheit531 is offline  
Likes For Fahrenheit531:
Old 09-14-19, 05:29 PM
  #10  
Me duelen las nalgas
 
canklecat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Texas
Posts: 13,513

Bikes: Centurion Ironman, Trek 5900, Univega Via Carisma, Globe Carmel

Mentioned: 199 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4559 Post(s)
Liked 2,802 Times in 1,800 Posts
Originally Posted by uncle uncle
So, I found out a bit more about the bike I will be refurbishing... the freewheel is actually 6 speeds (14-28 again). The person isn't a speed racer (aka, not someone who tops out their speed much, but usually goes at a "leisurely +" pace). The bike will be for campus runs, and general fitness. So..... I don't know if that changes anyone's input, but I do appreciate the insights so far. Keep them coming....
With that freewheel, your 44 single chainring will provide a decent granny gear for most hills, and a top end comparable to a typical fixie or single speed gear, around 75-85". Not bad for an all arounder on reasonably flat or rolling terrain.

I've considered converting my Univega from a triple to 40T single chainring, mostly because it'll clear space for fatter tires. I have 700x38 on it now, and the main hindrance to a fatter tire is clearing the front derailleur, not the frame or fork. I could just set the FD limit screws to the center ring only, remove the left shifter and try it like that to see whether I'd miss the other chainrings, but just having the FD on the frame still limits the tire width.
canklecat is offline  
Likes For canklecat:
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Gdando
Classic & Vintage
9
02-01-14 11:30 AM
blackvans1234
Bicycle Mechanics
45
07-04-13 07:38 AM
Capecodder
Classic & Vintage
3
10-07-11 03:40 PM
MrEss
Classic & Vintage
10
12-14-10 12:49 PM
khatfull
Classic & Vintage
9
08-07-10 10:02 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.