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noobinsf 11-22-20 04:34 PM

So, I have a potentially stupid question. If I were to use a TA left-hand tandem crank (with left hand thread) as a drive side crank, would I run the constant risk of unthreading the pedal during a ride? This is more than a theoretical question given a situation in which I find myself...

repechage 11-22-20 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by noobinsf (Post 21801900)
So, I have a potentially stupid question. If I were to use a TA left-hand tandem crank (with left hand thread) as a drive side crank, would I run the constant risk of unthreading the pedal during a ride? This is more than a theoretical question given a situation in which I find myself...

A bit risky, Very risky if the cranks were French threaded and were tapped to 9/16 x20

noobinsf 11-22-20 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by repechage (Post 21801922)
A bit risky, Very risky if the cranks were French threaded and were tapped to 9/16 x20

I had a feeling that was the case. I bought a set of 165mm cranks, but I hastily reviewed the pics and missed some gouges that might make the drive side unusable. (Not the seller’s fault — he posted clear pics that I hastily skipped over.) There is a 165mm left side drive available from another seller, but it looks like I will find some other way to sort this out. Live and learn...

JaccoW 11-22-20 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by steve sumner (Post 21796076)
I don't know if modern TA cranks are made from a different alloy than older ones. but the old ones are
the only crank I know of that came stock with pedal washers because the arms were so soft the pedal
would gouge the arm without them

A lot has happened in metalurgy since then. Modern TA cranks are forged, machined and then polished. Especially the forging should lead to a stronger, lighter crank. No idea on what type of aluminum they were made out of in the old days and how much now though.

tiger1964 11-22-20 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by oneclick (Post 21795572)
Bigger (64):

The adapter plate is cool, it would be even better if the projecting 'tabs' were trimmed.

retroman57 11-22-20 07:27 PM

Another advantage of the Stronglight 49D
 
Another advantage of the Stronglight 49D is that it is not anodized, making polishing easier and period correct

djkashuba 11-22-20 09:47 PM

More Stronglight Pics:

https://live.staticflickr.com/3353/5...d9e3e4b5_b.jpg
Bertin Porteur by djk762, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/5714/2...293b8cb4_b.jpg
Stronglight by djk762, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/626/22...b726acbe_b.jpg
Stronglight by djk762, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/775/22...d2b98c5d_b.jpg
Stronglight 48T by djk762, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/5675/2...30a9abc2_b.jpg
Stronglight 48T by djk762, on Flickr

oneclick 11-23-20 05:10 AM


Originally Posted by tiger1964 (Post 21801968)
The adapter plate is cool, it would be even better if the projecting 'tabs' were trimmed.

It's actually kind of geometric - the triangle cut lines are tangent to the central step. It was a long time ago and at that point

a) I knew I was better at straight lines than freehand-curves
b) all I had was a hacksaw and files

Nobody's pointed out the other aesthetic flaw.

bulgie 11-23-20 06:23 AM


Originally Posted by oneclick (Post 21802478)
Nobody's pointed out the other aesthetic flaw.

I see that the 5-bolt pattern and the 3-bolt pattern aren't phased or clocked correctly with respect to each other, meaning the 6-spokes of the ring aren't symmetrical with the crank.

TA 5-vis outer rings always have 5 ways you can mount them onto the crank, and 4 of them are 'wrong' (if you value symmetry). Only one of the 5 ways makes the ring look right.

I'm thinking on your adapter, none of the 5 ways results in a symmetrical ring mounting, am I right?

Of course, function is 100% the same, this is only an OCD sort of concern.

Mark B in Seattle

oneclick 11-23-20 06:41 AM


Originally Posted by bulgie (Post 21802501)
I see that the 5-bolt pattern and the 3-bolt pattern aren't phased or clocked correctly with respect to each other, meaning the 6-spokes of the ring aren't symmetrical with the crank.

TA 5-vis outer rings always have 5 ways you can mount them onto the crank, and 4 of them are 'wrong' (if you value symmetry). Only one of the 5 ways makes the ring look right.

I'm thinking on your adapter, none of the 5 ways results in a symmetrical ring mounting, am I right?

Not exactly. They will line up, but that puts a chainring bolt under the arm.

bulgie 11-23-20 07:06 AM


Originally Posted by oneclick (Post 21802515)
Not exactly. They will line up, but that puts a chainring bolt under the arm.

A-ha, I couldn't quite tell from the photo whether there was one symmetric position.

I had a Pro 5-vis outer ring like that, drilled wrong at the 50.4 mm circle so that there was no way that was both symmetrical and didn't hide a bolt behind the crank.

I drilled another 5 holes between the existing 5 and called it drillium. ;) That ring also had its holes for the small ring at the Randonneur (116 mm) circle and I needed a cyclotouriste (80 mm) inner, so I drilled 6 new holes for that. Then I drilled 6 more holes at the Criterium (152 mm) circle, for the pants guard. It ain't pretty, but it went on a utility bike (grocery-getter), which is the opposite of a show-bike. It works!

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9e6ea0d74a.jpg

Mark B


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